Le Tissier: "Cortese is not a nice human being"

[shurlock]

Go and have another look at the twitter quotes on page 6; that was one of MLT's accusations.

 

Fair enough, my apologies, though it does seem that every and any accusation is being hurled at NC.

To your original question, like everything else, I would want concrete evidence. And if the Chairman -whether Rupes or NC- was significant;y involved in transfers, I would want to know if this was done for 'good' reasons -deliberation/consultation by committee, putting the club's long-term development/interests above those of a manager who might be gone tmrw - or 'bad' - the chairman playing god in an area in which he has no expertise.

 

... on a side point, .f**king leeds

[Turkish]

Come again.....

 

It's pretty clear Colin.

[Turkish]

Fair enough, my apologies, though it does seem that every and any accusation is being hurled at NC.

To your original question, like everything else, I would want concrete evidence. And if the Chairman -whether Rupes or NC- was significant;y involved in transfers, I would want to know if this was done for 'good' reasons -deliberation/consultation by committee, putting the club's long-term development/interests above those of a manager who might be gone tmrw - or 'bad' - the chairman playing god in an area in which he has no expertise.

 

... on a side point, .f**king leeds

 

Its not really unusual these days for a chairman to be involved in transfers. What I find very disturbing and it's not the first time I've heard it, are involvement in team selection and formations.

[Colinjb]

It's pretty clear Colin.

 

Well, yes.

 

Am I alone in having not heard that?

[The Kraken]

Its not really unusual these days for a chairman to be involved in transfers. What I find very disturbing and it's not the first time I've heard it, are involvement in team selection and formations.

 

Yep; Rupert had more than a say in bringing in Crouch, Delgado, Niemi and others. I never had too much of a problem with that. team selection; well that's a completely different thing.

 

And Leeds

[Toomer]

It's pretty clear Colin.

 

Turkish slight correction to your post that got Colinjb's reply it was wanted to not did.

Edited 19 October, 2012 by Toomer

[Turkish]

Well, yes.

 

Am I alone in having not heard that?

 

Probably not. I've posted it before.

[shurlock]

Its not really unusual these days for a chairman to be involved in transfers. What I find very disturbing and it's not the first time I've heard it, are involvement in team selection and formations.

 

Yep, the latter is disturbing....if true.

[Toomer]

And another.

 

“It's always good to remember where you come from and celebrate it. To remember where you come from is part of where you're going.” - Anthony Burgess

 

Or be careful what you do on the way up because you don't know who your going to meet on the way down.

[NickG]

Some more from MLT on Twitter just now:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Someone then said to Matt that there wouldn't be a Southampton FC without Cortese, to which he replied:

 

oh dear, sounds bit embarrassing now

 

so, his criticsism is that NC is in fact acting as manager. Remind me how many clubs have better win record over last few years? please keep meddling.

 

and we know about the other bidder don't we mat?

 

I don't care MLT's view. nor whether NC is nice.

 

but real shame mlt is tarnishing his image with this embarrassing behaviour.

 

of course its up to him, but think he is biggest loser, shame.

[Turkish]

oh dear, sounds bit embarrassing now

 

so, his criticsism is that NC is in fact acting as manager. Remind me how many clubs have better win record over last few years? please keep meddling.

 

and we know about the other bidder don't we mat?

 

I don't care MLT's view. nor whether NC is nice.

 

but real shame mlt is tarnishing his image with this embarrassing behaviour.

 

of course its up to him, but think he is biggest loser, shame.

 

Why is he the biggest loser? Some fans are showing their true colours. I think we are starting to sort out the real Saints fans from the Nick Nack consumers.

[CB Saint]

At least NC hasn't started employing forum infiltrators.

 

Or has he.........

 

If he has, Turkish is fu..ked

[Turkish]

If he has, Turkish is fu..ked

 

Why?

[CB Saint]

Christ you're touchy on this thread.

 

It was a light hearted reference to illingsworth being banned for posting on a Internet forum and the fact that you have been less than complimentary about our dear leader.

 

Chill Turkish, you are gong to burst something.

[Latheal]

So if Cortese has been involved in team selections do we praise him for the last few years? And praise him for the buys of Lambert (pound for pound one of the greatest buys this club as ever made), Clyne and Ramierez? Should we laud him for the way Saints play football?

 

To me, it's quite simple. The club is a business. He's in charge of it. He's done a bang up job so far. I support the club. I don't care if he and MLT don't like each other. I also love MLT. I pay my money to watch the club I love. Last few years, that's been money well spent.

 

If Cortese has picked the team and Adkins is still managing, then I have less respect for Adkins than Cortese. But most of the players seem happy with very little rumours of major players leaving. It seems a little unfounded to me.

 

FFS, lets just enjoy what we've got. We almost lost our team. Tomorrow we're paying a Premier League game.

[PhilippineSaint]

Well, yes.

 

Am I alone in having not heard that?

 

Nope

[Gemmel]

Because it would be totally out of character for him to over react. Like when he banned Illingsworth for posting an article on a spaz board he didn't like. Like when he banned the echo for publishing an article, which was actually positive, a day early, when it was already in the public domain. Like when he sacked Adkins last summer And Reid had to tell him to stop being a lemon. Yep, given the history if there is one thing we can be sure Cortese won't do it's over react.

 

 

More than once?

[capitalsaint]

Why is he the biggest loser? Some fans are showing their true colours. I think we are starting to sort out the real Saints fans from the Nick Nack consumers.

 

So let's all rally around you. What would you like us to do, go on a protest march? I'm sure the media would give us lots of coverage, the disgraceful state that of the club is there for all to see. Maybe we should start chanting 'We Want Cortese Out' too.

 

It's about time the chairman realised that these last two years have been some of the least enjoyable, most depressing times for me and most other Saints fans.

[John B]

After Lowe I just wanted a resonable CEO but for some reason we seem to have a meglomanic who seems to have no regard for Fans Players Employees and Suppliers.

 

I wonder what sort of person Markus really was

[shurlock]

So let's all rally around you. What would you like us to do, go on a protest march? I'm sure the media would give us lots of coverage, the disgraceful state that of the club is there for all to see. Maybe we should start chanting 'We Want Cortese Out' too.

 

It's about time the chairman realised that these last two years have been some of the least enjoyable, most depressing times for me and most other Saints fans.

 

 

And you really do mean it...

[Wes Tender]

After Lowe I just wanted a resonable CEO but for some reason we seem to have a meglomanic who seems to have no regard for Fans Players Employees and Suppliers.

 

I wonder what sort of person Markus really was

Do I recall correctly that Corporate Ho boasted that he had infiltrated this forum under an assumed name? And wasn't the Toy man from Berkshire too?

[capitalsaint]

 

And you really do mean it...

 

I humbly put myself forward as the head of the SST. If you all give me 100 quid now and promise another 900 later I'll force a takeover. Honest.

[NickG]

Why is he the biggest loser? Some fans are showing their true colours. I think we are starting to sort out the real Saints fans from the Nick Nack consumers.

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Why biggest loser? to put in perspective he is losing little. A lot of big fans of his do not think he is coming out of this very well (clear from here). He certainly isn't gaining, nor is it neutral. I am huge fan of him - as a player - but think he sounds pathetic. Guess Cortese cares less what MLT thinks of him, than MLT cares about NC - and rightly so.

 

My comments about biggest loser were after I laughed reading MLT's specifics - that NC has been acting as manager (and the result being the best win record in the league over two years - may have made that up though ) and that there were other bidders we didn't need Markus...yes Matt we remember well your other bidder!!

oh dear, sounds bit embarrassing now

 

so, his criticsism is that NC is in fact acting as manager. Remind me how many clubs have better win record over last few years? please keep meddling.

 

and we know about the other bidder don't we mat?

 

I don't care MLT's view. nor whether NC is nice.

 

but real shame mlt is tarnishing his image with this embarrassing behaviour.

 

of course its up to him, but think he is biggest loser, shame.

 

Remember the days of Lowe, Wilde, Lowe..... all interested in self publicity?

 

There was almost universal calls for a chairman who would quietly stay in the background, and allow the team to flourish?

 

A chairman who would sign players better than we have? Would improve the side?

 

 

We have all the above.

 

 

Do I care about whether MLT likes him? Not in the slightest.

 

Do I care about who runs the ticket office, corporate sales? Not in the slightest.

 

Do I care about the relationship with the echo (who made errors in their reporting and didn't like the consequences) not in the slightest.

 

Do I know details of Illingsworths dispute? No. Have I heard stories that put him in bad light as well..?

 

Do I care about the media spat? Actually found it quite amusing.

 

Do I care about the contract issues with builders? Not in the slightest.

 

Do I think Adkins job is more vulnerable than any other manager or less in similar circumstances...less.

 

Do I care what MLT thinks about Cortese? Not in the slightest.

 

How did the reporting of MLT's comments sound on Solent this morning? Like MLT was 10 years old whining he doesn't like someone.

 

Are MLT concerns about issues that would have a negative impact on saints? No - MLT has said so himself. Therefore irrelevant, personal issues.

 

Do I think Cortese is likely to be personable, caring and perfect? no.

 

Has any chairman had such a positive impact on any English club recently in moving them forward, bringing attractive football and players? No.

 

Am I killing time at work? Yes!

 

Will leave you with this thought....last transfer window before NC we signed Ryan Smith, this one we signed Gaston Ramirez.

 

Good luck with your Cortese out campaign...enjoy the return of Ryan Smith

[CB Fry]

oh dear, sounds bit embarrassing now

 

 

of course its up to him, but think he is biggest loser, shame.

 

 

I think the biggest losers are those crawling up the Arris of a football CEO and mocking the opinions of our greatest ever player.

 

But hey, football is all about passion, romance and wa nking over the chief executive. You've really captured the true meaning of this sport, sorry, Leisure Business, that we all love.

 

Shame.

[ottery st mary]

Unlike a previous Chairman:cry:......remaining nameless for the benefit of you Rupes Ra Ra baton twirling girls blouses;)

 

NC has not yet been seen in a track suit clip board in hand giving team talks..........Yet:)

 

On good authority from my mate in a pub in Honiton:rolleyes: NA selects the side......and as we all know...makes the substitutions. (more thought here please our Nigel)

[Turkish]

After Lowe I just wanted a resonable CEO but for some reason we seem to have a meglomanic who seems to have no regard for Fans Players Employees and Suppliers.

 

I wonder what sort of person Markus really was

 

Not the players. I understand they are treated like royalty. But yes, disregard for anyone else.

[JackFrost]

I think the biggest losers are those crawling up the Arris of a football CEO and mocking the opinions of our greatest ever player.

 

But hey, football is all about passion, romance and wa nking over the chief executive. You've really captured the true meaning of this sport, sorry, Leisure Business, that we all love.

 

Shame.

 

I think the biggest losers are those crawling up the Arris of our greatest ever player and mocking the opinions of our football CEO

 

But hey, football is all about passion, romance and wa nking over the footballing legends. You've really captured the true meaning of this sport, sorry, Leisure Business, that we all love.

 

Shame.

 

 

 

 

 

See what I did there? . . .

 

You're criticising people supposedly on the extreme of one side when you seem to be on the extreme of the other side yourself.

 

Personally I just wish MLT and Cortese would just shake each others hands in public and get on with their lives. MLT is our greatest ever player and a club legend but that doesn't mean the things he does and says are right 100% of the time. Frankly when it comes to Cortese he needs to let it go. As for Cortese MLT may be entirely right that he isn't a nice human being but hello?? he is a very rich and successful banker. At the end of the day we've gone up two divisions under Cortese is he's doing something right.

 

If the club's success continues and Cortese has to upset a few people in the meantime to achieve this then quite frankly I couldn't give a toss.

[Window Cleaner]

I think the biggest losers are those crawling up the Arris of our greatest ever player and mocking the opinions of our football CEO

 

 

 

I still haven't worked out what Mick Channon has to do with all this :rolleyes:

[CB Fry]

I think the biggest losers are those crawling up the Arris of our greatest ever player and mocking the opinions of our football CEO

 

But hey, football is all about passion, romance and wa nking over the footballing legends. You've really captured the true meaning of this sport, sorry, Leisure Business, that we all love.

 

Shame.

 

 

 

 

 

See what I did there? . . .

 

You're criticising people supposedly on the extreme of one side when you seem to be on the extreme of the other side yourself.

 

Personally I just wish MLT and Cortese would just shake each others hands in public and get on with their lives. MLT is our greatest ever player and a club legend but that doesn't mean the things he does and says are right 100% of the time. Frankly when it comes to Cortese he needs to let it go. As for Cortese MLT may be entirely right that he isn't a nice human being but hello?? he is a very rich and successful banker. At the end of the day we've gone up two divisions under Cortese is he's doing something right.

 

If the club's success continues and Cortese has to upset a few people in the meantime to achieve this then quite frankly I couldn't give a toss.

 

I did see what you did there and it made zero sense unless you actually think that admiration for Matthew Le Tissier makes you a loser.

[CB Fry]

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My comments about biggest loser were after I laughed reading MLT's specifics - that NC has been acting as manager (and the result being the best win record in the league over two years - may have made that up though ) and that there were other bidders we didn't need Markus...yes Matt we remember well your other bidder!!

 

 

 

 

Where, exactly does MLT say "we didn't need Markus".

 

Do find the quote.

[Toomer]

Not the players. I understand they are treated like royalty. But yes, disregard for anyone else.

 

And his comment to staff at SMS was you only speak to me if I speak to you and then you only address me as Mr Cortese.

[Stanley Saint]

I think the biggest losers are those crawling up the Arris of a football CEO and mocking the opinions of our greatest ever player.

 

But hey, football is all about passion, romance and wa nking over the chief executive. You've really captured the true meaning of this sport, sorry, Leisure Business, that we all love.

 

Shame.

This.

[Mowgli]

And his comment to staff at SMS was you only speak to me if I speak to you and then you only address me as Mr Cortese.

 

That is probably standard practice with the majority of CEOs but its a bit arrogant to actually say it

[egg]

I think the biggest losers are those crawling up the Arris of a football CEO and mocking the opinions of our greatest ever player.

 

But hey, football is all about passion, romance and wa nking over the chief executive. You've really captured the true meaning of this sport, sorry, Leisure Business, that we all love.

 

Shame.

 

Spot on. I for one am grateful for mlt caring enough about the club to speak out.

[Turkish]

And his comment to staff at SMS was you only speak to me if I speak to you and then you only address me as Mr Cortese.

 

Apparantly he has his own corridor which only he is allowed to walk down and his getting his own toilet installed which only he is allowed to use. The guy is a nutcase.

[Thedelldays]

Apparantly he has his own corridor which only he is allowed to walk down and his getting his own toilet installed which only he is allowed to use. The guy is a nutcase.

he is like his own captain of a ship lol

[Colinjb]

Apparantly he has his own corridor which only he is allowed to walk down and his getting his own toilet installed which only he is allowed to use.

 

That's a common feature in many offices for high ranking board officials.

 

As for the corridor, how does that work!? Where does it go!?

[JustMike]

That's a common feature in many offices for high ranking board officials.

 

As for the corridor, how does that work!? Where does it go!?

 

Narnia?

[buctootim]

That's a common feature in many offices for high ranking board officials.

 

As for the corridor, how does that work!? Where does it go!?

 

It goes round in a circle in Turkish's mind. Its not a scenic walk.

[buctootim]

I heard he has his own private herd of Wildebeest, which only he is allowed to stroke, but the ticket office manager has to clean them out.

[ecuk268]

That's a common feature in many offices for high ranking board officials.

 

As for the corridor, how does that work!? Where does it go!?

 

To his own toilet of course.

[Colinjb]

To his own toilet of course.

 

Presumably past the cells where staff are tortured for information on 'dissidents...'

[Turkish]

Take the p*ss if you want, it's all true. If you don't believe me or think its perfectly normal than that's your issue.

[Colinjb]

Take the p*ss if you want, it's all true. If you don't believe me or think its perfectly normal than that's your issue.

 

Well, the bathroom certainly is normal!

[OldNick]

Sadly MLT is easily led by the nose and is not that savvy in the world of business. Just because somebody can kick a ball well it does not mean that he is gifted in the wider world. Personally I believe he is rightfully allowed to his views but that shouldn't be at the cost of the club he says he loves.

It seems there are people around who are happy to peddle hearsay and rumour. The stories of NC picking the team,buying players etc are the same nonsense we had under RL. Yet again fans with little brain take it on as chapter and verse and make the Chinese whispers bigger. There are stirrers around and so we should be aware

[Turkish]

Well, the bathroom certainly is normal!

 

Yeah. Course it is.

[VectisSaint]

So, anyone going to the Evening with MLT on Thursday at Cowes Haven YC and fancy asking him to elaborate on why Nic is a not very nice person?

[Bearsy]

[Colinjb]

Yeah. Course it is.

 

What do you do for a living out of interest? Other then upping your post count, in recent days, obviously.

[Turkish]

What do you do for a living out of interest? Other then upping your post count, in recent days, obviously.

 

I'm a telesaleist extrodinare in the Paper and ink industry, my career is well documented on here as a lot of people are jealous of it. I was working from home today though.