Le Tissier: "Cortese is not a nice human being"

[egg]

Pressed for detail? It's an Internet forum not an interrogation!

 

When I've given stuff out in the past people demand sources and names otherwise it had no credibility. Now why would anyone name names when the club monitor these boards and cause trouble for their source? And I'm speaking from experience as in the past I did get someone at SFC in trouble for saying something I shouldn't on here and making it clear where it had come from. It was before Corteses time but still caused them problems. With Nick Nack in charge they'd have been fired. So no I'm not naming names and sources, if people don't believe it that's up to them, I don't care.

 

That's nonsense. You can reveal stuff without blowing someones cover.

 

The problem is that you imply that you know stuff but don't say anything. I'm not gonna speculate as to whether you actually know anything (you haven't said that you do) but why give all the innuendo if you're not prepared to give any actual information?

[The Kraken]

F*ck me there's some desperate people on here. "SOUUUURCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! or it isn't true!!!!".

[Turkish]

That's nonsense. You can reveal stuff without blowing someones cover.

 

The problem is that you imply that you know stuff but don't say anything. I'm not gonna speculate as to whether you actually know anything (you haven't said that you do) but why give all the innuendo if you're not prepared to give any actual information?

 

What innuendo? I'm inviting people to draw their own conclusions. Such as regarding the corporate sales and ticket office departments.

[jam]

It depends. Eg, you want to buy or loan a player from us why should NC play the nice guy? You want to tender to do building work, why should NC be a nice guy? In any dealings would anyone criticize NC if he structured deals to receive payment sooner than we ourselves were prepared to make payment? Again, without any facts from you or anyone it's impossible to put your point into context.

 

The context is there in the post you quoted:

 

Unfortunately for NC in the leisure industry which he is now in, where you are trying to sell your product to match goers and also to local buinessness for sponsorship and corporate tickets i fail to see how being 'difficult to do business with'is a good thing like you appear to be making it out to be. In my own and I'm sure your experience wouldn't you rather give your business to a company that is easy to do business with?

 

The point Turkish is making (in this post, at least), is that if the club are trying to sell product - tickets, corp hospitality, sponsorship, etc. - being difficult to do business with is not a benefit. Driving a hard bargain with a supplier is a completely different kettle of pompey porn.

 

If your'e trying to arrange a day out for a bunch of your clients, do you take them to the football club who are a nightmare to deal with or another venue (say, the cricket), who are bending over backwards to get your business?

[trousers]

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[Turkish]

/\ not just difficult to deal with. A product that is to put it bluntly is crap. From what I can gather the cheapeet corporate ticket simply gets you access te corporate bar where you have the honour of buying crap beer and buffet food at massively inflated prices. Tell me what is the compelling reason to do such a thing? I was out for dinner lat night with the owner of a successful company in this area who is a Saints fan. He said it was far better value to buy 6 season tickets and take clients for lunch in Oxford street before the game so that Is what he does.

 

He customer facing side of the club is an absolute shambles, expensive an rubbish. We keep bein told Cortese is a great businessman, well he's either totally unaware or unwilling to do anything to maximise revenues from local businesses.

[The Kraken]

/\ not just difficult to deal with. A product that is to put it bluntly is crap. From what I can gather the cheapeet corporate ticket simply gets you access te corporate bar where you have the honour of buying crap beer and buffet food at massively inflated prices. Tell me what is the compelling reason to do such a thing? I was out for dinner lat night with the owner of a successful company in this area who is a Saints fan. He said it was far better value to buy 6 season tickets and take clients for lunch in Oxford street before the game so that Is what he does.

 

He customer facing side of the club is an absolute shambles, expensive an rubbish. We keep bein told Cortese is a great businessman, well he's either totally unaware or unwilling to do anything to maximise revenues from local businesses.

 

This is entirely true. I've spoken to a couple of sets of friends who have used the Micky Channon suite this season and they say it's utterly pathetic for the money. Just a few days ago I had a beer with 2 friends who work for a company that have 4 season tickets for the Channon for "entertaining" guests; they've said its so bad that they're sure the company won't be renewing next year.

 

The Channon suite is staffed by very young, seemingly incapable staff. Service is atrocious, on two separate match occasions they said it took forever to get served at the bar (and we all know that the draught beer at St. Mary's is pretty abject, is the same swill they serve in the concourses). Food, well you'd just as well eat somewhere else; the options are croque monsieurs, hot dogs and chicken wraps. And that's it. Hardly somewhere you'd expect to woo a client. The interaction from ex-players and staff has also diminished to a huge extent, which used to be a major selling point to the day.

 

In common with what Turkish said; the people that I know that have decided for taking out clients they'll got to a restaurant in town and just get to the suite for a beer before the game; then next year give the season ticket up. They are far from alone in this, as the empty seats in corporate testify to every single game.

 

Sadly, this was all predicted last year; it was shouted down and we were told that corporate would be sold out this year, it was only being in the Championship that meant we weren't selling out. I'm sure now that the financial crisis will be held entirely to blame; anything but blaming super businessman Nicola.

[Big Bad Bob]

/\ not just difficult to deal with. A product that is to put it bluntly is crap. From what I can gather the cheapeet corporate ticket simply gets you access te corporate bar where you have the honour of buying crap beer and buffet food at massively inflated prices. Tell me what is the compelling reason to do such a thing? I was out for dinner lat night with the owner of a successful company in this area who is a Saints fan. He said it was far better value to buy 6 season tickets and take clients for lunch in Oxford street before the game so that Is what he does.

 

He customer facing side of the club is an absolute shambles, expensive an rubbish. We keep bein told Cortese is a great businessman, well he's either totally unaware or unwilling to do anything to maximise revenues from local businesses.

 

That's all very well, and very much in line with what I've heard, apparently a few restaurants have picked up on this and are offering good deals to coporate match goers..

 

BUT what has this specific point got to do with Cortese being a nice guy or not??

 

AND if the corporate side of things is such a shambles maybe that is why the Citeh fella only lasted 6 months..........

[scotty]

in the past i had a lot of respect for the Echo' date=' Peter East and Bob Brunskell, were honest but supportive, now it is about big headlines and sh*t stirring[/quote']

 

To be fair to the Echo they're completely shut out by the club so have to jump through a few hoops just to get Saints related stories in the paper as it is. They're always going to take MLT's side in this particular conflict, so no real surprise for them to open up in print really.

 

The other thing worth remembering is that the Echo, like every other printed newspaper, is suffering badly through the switch to digital media. Anything they can stir up to deflect that is fair game to them, I dont suppose they or the rest of the press will be around much longer anyway tbh.

[hypochondriac]

This is entirely true. I've spoken to a couple of sets of friends who have used the Micky Channon suite this season and they say it's utterly pathetic for the money. Just a few days ago I had a beer with 2 friends who work for a company that have 4 season tickets for the Channon for "entertaining" guests; they've said its so bad that they're sure the company won't be renewing next year.

 

The Channon suite is staffed by very young, seemingly incapable staff. Service is atrocious, on two separate match occasions they said it took forever to get served at the bar (and we all know that the draught beer at St. Mary's is pretty abject, is the same swill they serve in the concourses). Food, well you'd just as well eat somewhere else; the options are croque monsieurs, hot dogs and chicken wraps. And that's it. Hardly somewhere you'd expect to woo a client. The interaction from ex-players and staff has also diminished to a huge extent, which used to be a major selling point to the day.

 

In common with what Turkish said; the people that I know that have decided for taking out clients they'll got to a restaurant in town and just get to the suite for a beer before the game; then next year give the season ticket up. They are far from alone in this, as the empty seats in corporate testify to every single game.

 

Sadly, this was all predicted last year; it was shouted down and we were told that corporate would be sold out this year, it was only being in the Championship that meant we weren't selling out. I'm sure now that the financial crisis will be held entirely to blame; anything but blaming super businessman Nicola.

 

It's not the best and I'm speaking as someone who gets into that suite for free.

[Turkish]

It depends. Eg, you want to buy or loan a player from us why should NC play the nice guy? You want to tender to do building work, why should NC be a nice guy? In any dealings would anyone criticize NC if he structured deals to receive payment sooner than we ourselves were prepared to make payment? Again, without any facts fro

m you or anyone it's impossible to put your point into context.

 

Why should NC play the nice guy when buying a player? Christ if you don't get that we're in trouble. You want to buy something that someone doesn't want to sell then you can't play billy big balls. same when your trying to sell a product to potential suitors. Yes there is a time to be difficult to deal with, like he was with AOC. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be able to get te balance right does he.

[Turkish]

That's all very well, and very much in line with what I've heard, apparently a few restaurants have picked up on this and are offering good deals to coporate match goers..

 

BUT what has this specific point got to do with Cortese being a nice guy or not??

 

AND if the corporate side of things is such a shambles maybe that is why the Citeh fella only lasted 6 months..........

 

I dont care i hes a nice bloke or not. Every CEO ive ever met has had a tough streak, they meed to have one as thy have toyghj decisions to make, that doesnt bother me. As I said, we keep being told he is a great businessman, but apart from getting a great deal for AOC if this is true, where is the evidence of this? Certainly not in the club figures, as weve run at a loss every year he's been been here. Certainly not in the customer service areas as the ticket office has never been so badly run. Certainly not in the corporate areas as the significant revenue we could gain from them is not happening. The corporate areas are virtually empty with expensive prices and a poor product. And certainly not in staff retention as the turnover of senior staff is very high. Certainly not in PR as we have poor relations with the media. the city guy 'left' a while ago after only being here a few months, cannot be blamed for the shambles that they are Now. So just where is the evidence of this great businessman?

Edited 19 October, 2012 by Turkish

[Dig Dig]

Why should NC play the nice guy when buying a player? Christ if you don't get that we're in trouble. You want to buy something that someone doesn't want to sell then you can't play billy big balls. same when your trying to sell a product to potential suitors. Yes there is a time to be difficult to deal with, like he was with AOC. Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be able to get te balance right does he.

 

We've bought loads of players under NC, a couple of squads worth in a little over 3 years.

[The Kraken]

It's not the best and I'm speaking as someone who gets into that suite for free.

 

I'm surprised we seem to be dumbing down and commonising the whole corporate and service experience. Don't need to say any more about the Channon Suite; its turned into a low quality bar rather than a pretty decent dining and entertainment experience.

 

The Terry Paine Ambassadors Suite is no more; that provided the best experience I've ever had at St. Mary's corporate or otherwise. Not cheap at all but was always packed to the rafters.

 

The boxes not even a third full; unsurprising really given that prices have skyrocketed by now don't include any booze in the price other than an intriductory beer and glass of wine (for a day that starts at 12.30 and runs through to 6pm for a regular kick off).

 

The Dell Sports Club seems to have suffered a similar fate too; most tables and chairs suddenly removed to create a "bar or pub experience". I'm not sure which bars and pubs they're basing it on, but most that I tend to frequent have tables and chairs for most people to, you know, sit at and enjoy a pint.

 

Whoever is in charge of hospitality and corporate enteratinment is clearly working to a pre-defined brief, and one that simply doesn't work. Customers have left in their droves and continue to do so; yet the club don't seem to want to listen and are providing a service that they think the customer should have, rather than listening to what they actually want.

[egg]

Unfortunately he doesn't seem to be able to get te balance right does he.

 

I don't know. You continue to give the impression that you do. If you know anything please share - you can do that without revealing sources

 

However, If you know nothing please stop trying to give the impression that you know stuff.

 

Asking people to draw conclusions from loaded questions doesn't help anyone.

[Turkish]

We've bought loads of players under NC, a couple of squads worth in a little over 3 years.

 

To give him his due from what I've heard about a couple of deals he has been an absolutely gent. The point was more general after it was made out being difficult to deal with Is some amazing feat Cortese carries off with aplom.

[John B]

I dont understand why people dont accept criticism of Cortese from what I have heard from people who work at St Mary's he is a little despot.

 

Whether being a despot is good for a CEO running a football club I dont know

[trousers]

This is entirely true. I've spoken to a couple of sets of friends who have used the Micky Channon suite this season and they say it's utterly pathetic for the money. Just a few days ago I had a beer with 2 friends who work for a company that have 4 season tickets for the Channon for "entertaining" guests; they've said its so bad that they're sure the company won't be renewing next year.

 

The Channon suite is staffed by very young, seemingly incapable staff. Service is atrocious, on two separate match occasions they said it took forever to get served at the bar (and we all know that the draught beer at St. Mary's is pretty abject, is the same swill they serve in the concourses). Food, well you'd just as well eat somewhere else; the options are croque monsieurs, hot dogs and chicken wraps. And that's it. Hardly somewhere you'd expect to woo a client. The interaction from ex-players and staff has also diminished to a huge extent, which used to be a major selling point to the day.

 

What happened when your friends wrote to the club demanding a refund citing standard consumer law (I.e. goods or services have to be "as described" and "of merchantable quality".

 

If they are delivering a service that is not as advertised then they are breaking the law.

 

( I'm not defending the service as it does indeed sound poor - it just sounds like Trading Standards ought to be involved )

[The Kraken]

What happened when your friends wrote to the club demanding a refund citing standard consumer law (I.e. goods or services have to be "as described" and "of merchantable quality".

 

If they are delivering a service that is not as advertised then they are breaking the law.

 

( I'm not defending the service as it does indeed sound poor - it just sounds like Trading Standards ought to be involved )

 

Where did I say it wasn't as advertised?

 

What a strange thing to suggest.

[Big Bad Bob]

I dont care i hes a nice bloke or not. Every CEO ive ever met has had a tough streak, they meed to have one as thy have toyghj decisions to make, that doesnt bother me. As I said, we keep being told he is a great businessman, but apart from getting a great deal for AOC if this is true, where is the evidence of this? Certainly not in the club figures, as weve run at a loss every year he's been been here. Certainly not in the customer service areas as the ticket office has never been so badly run. Certainly not in the corporate areas as the significant revenue we could gain from them is not happening. The corporate areas are virtually empty with expensive prices and a poor product. And certainly not in staff retention as the turnover of senior staff is very high. Certainly not in PR as we have poor relations with the media. the city guy 'left' a while ago after only being here a few months, cannot be blamed for the shambles that they are Now. So just where is the evidence of this great businessman?

 

But this thread is about Cortese not "being a nice human being" NOT the fact that he isn't the great businessman that other people are alluding too.

 

And that is what people are asking you to clarify with examples, John B has said he's heard he's a despot, which doesn't surprise me in the slightest, and the turnover of staff also points towards that. But you suggest that you have specific examples of what he's done but won't go any further...

[trousers]

Where did I say it wasn't as advertised?

 

What a strange thing to suggest.

 

I'm a strange bloke.

 

Why did they splash out for something that was described as "utterly pathetic for the money"?

 

Not that seems "strange"...

[Wes Tender]

I don't know. You continue to give the impression that you do. If you know anything please share - you can do that without revealing sources

 

However, If you know nothing please stop trying to give the impression that you know stuff.

 

Asking people to draw conclusions from loaded questions doesn't help anyone.

 

He has posted in the past if memory serves correctly, that the club wouldn't be interested in comments on a "mong" board. (Or was that CB Fry? Difficult to separate the comments of the Chuckle Brothers). Then in the next breath, he states that he can't reveal sources within the club in case it results in them suffering disciplinary action. I wonder which opinion is the correct one.

 

Anyway, catching up on this thread reveals that it has expanded somewhat on whether Cortese is a nice person or not, into the realms of the club's prowess in providing Corporate Hospitality and the quality (or lack of it) of the beer. Wait long enough and it will also cover every other minute facet of the club, with comparisons of our other historical chairmens' perfomances and how indeed other clubs chairmen stack up against our Nicola.

[The Kraken]

I'm a strange bloke.

 

Why did they splash out for something that was described as "utterly pathetic for the money"?

 

Not that seems "strange"...

 

Well I'm fairly sure they didn't expect it to be such poor value for money. But I can ask them if there was an ulterior motive for doing so; I admit I'm struggling to guess at one off hand.

 

They "splashed out" on the Club Lounge membership option; £1170 for a season ticket, with access to the Channon suite before and after the game. So essentially they paid nearly £400 extra than the next highest value of season ticket. I imagine that, beforehand, they thought the extra cost would have been worth paying. They've clearly since decided it isn't, by a long way.

[Turkish]

He has posted in the past if memory serves correctly, that the club wouldn't be interested in comments on a "mong" board. (Or was that CB Fry? Difficult to separate the comments of the Chuckle Brothers). Then in the next breath, he states that he can't reveal sources within the club in case it results in them suffering disciplinary action. I wonder which opinion is the correct one.

 

Anyway, catching up on this thread reveals that it has expanded somewhat on whether Cortese is a nice person or not, into the realms of the club's prowess in providing Corporate Hospitality and the quality (or lack of it) of the beer. Wait long enough and it will also cover every other minute facet of the club, with comparisons of our other historical chairmens' perfomances and how indeed other clubs chairmen stack up against our Nicola.

 

Shut up you helmet. As i have said, i know from personal experience that the club view this boards as i have got someone into trouble in the past by posting something they had told me. Of course the club probably dont give a sh*t what most of the helmets like you think about German and Easy jet ticket models, but they dont take to kindly to senstive information being broadcast to all of you mugs. Like I said, i know this is true, because it happened to someone i know. So wind your neck in.

[Turkish]

But this thread is about Cortese not "being a nice human being" NOT the fact that he isn't the great businessman that other people are alluding too.

 

And that is what people are asking you to clarify with examples, John B has said he's heard he's a despot, which doesn't surprise me in the slightest, and the turnover of staff also points towards that. But you suggest that you have specific examples of what he's done but won't go any further...

 

Well it seems like he is neither a great guy who loves the fans, the club and all things SFC, or a great businessman now doesn't it.

[trousers]

Well I'm fairly sure they didn't expect it to be such poor value for money

 

Which is why it suggested to me that it wasn't "as advertised"....i.e. why would they be surprised at what they got if it was clearly advertised what they were supposed to be getting for their money (it's also unlawful to misrepresent a product or service in the advertising for it).

 

Either they got what they were led to believe they would get for their money or they didn't.

[The Kraken]

Which is why it suggested to me that it wasn't "as advertised"....i.e. why would they be surprised at what they got if it was clearly advertised what they were supposed to be getting for their money (it's also unlawful to misrepresent a product or service in the advertising for it).

 

Either they got what they were led to believe they would get for their money or they didn't.

 

It really, really isn't that black and white, and I'm pretty sure you know it isn't.

[trousers]

It really, really isn't that black and white, and I'm pretty sure you know it isn't.

 

Ok. Just trying to be helpful. Never mind.

[Greenridge]

Shut up you helmet. As i have said, i know from personal experience that the club view this boards as i have got someone into trouble in the past by posting something they had told me. Of course the club probably dont give a sh*t what most of the helmets like you think about German and Easy jet ticket models, but they dont take to kindly to senstive information being broadcast to all of you mugs. Like I said, i know this is true, because it happened to someone i know. So wind your neck in.

 

Overtired.

[Dig Dig]

To give him his due from what I've heard about a couple of deals he has been an absolutely gent. The point was more general after it was made out being difficult to deal with Is some amazing feat Cortese carries off with aplom.

 

 

Ah ok, fair enough. Like everything else in life you have to pick your moments and your battles carefully

[Cricketphilly]

Why the fascination with the personality of the Chairman?. As long as he fullfills his mandate, I'm sure his employers are happy.

[Window Cleaner]

As long as he fullfills his mandate, I'm sure his employers are happy.

 

 

If indeed he still has any.

[adrian lord]

This is entirely true. I've spoken to a couple of sets of friends who have used the Micky Channon suite this season and they say it's utterly pathetic for the money. Just a few days ago I had a beer with 2 friends who work for a company that have 4 season tickets for the Channon for "entertaining" guests; they've said its so bad that they're sure the company won't be renewing next year.

 

The Channon suite is staffed by very young, seemingly incapable staff. Service is atrocious, on two separate match occasions they said it took forever to get served at the bar (and we all know that the draught beer at St. Mary's is pretty abject, is the same swill they serve in the concourses). Food, well you'd just as well eat somewhere else; the options are croque monsieurs, hot dogs and chicken wraps. And that's it. Hardly somewhere you'd expect to woo a client. The interaction from ex-players and staff has also diminished to a huge extent, which used to be a major selling point to the day.

 

In common with what Turkish said; the people that I know that have decided for taking out clients they'll got to a restaurant in town and just get to the suite for a beer before the game; then next year give the season ticket up. They are far from alone in this, as the empty seats in corporate testify to every single game.

 

Sadly, this was all predicted last year; it was shouted down and we were told that corporate would be sold out this year, it was only being in the Championship that meant we weren't selling out. I'm sure now that the financial crisis will be held entirely to blame; anything but blaming super businessman Nicola.

 

Shocking, positively shocking. But not perhaps surprising given the dynamic that we are independently wealthy through legacy, boosted by SKy, and not particularly paying-customer dependent for revenue.

 

They should take example from the Emirates corporate boxes. Superb environment, food and service (only the football lets it down!).

[OldNick]

NC doesn't cook and serve the food I assume. There are managers and should be axed if they are nots providing the service the club should provide.Are the caterers outside caterers or employed by the club? Whilst NC is the chairman and the buck stops with him,he can't also be expected to know all the problems. RL was derided by talking our world class catering,it has now become important to fans on here.

[The Kraken]

Shocking, positively shocking. But not perhaps surprising given the dynamic that we are independently wealthy through legacy, boosted by SKy, and not particularly paying-customer dependent for revenue.

 

They should take example from the Emirates corporate boxes. Superb environment, food and service (only the football lets it down!).

 

Given we've just had to take out a loan from a corporation in the BVI, I have to say I can't go along with that bit!

 

But yes; I would say there are lessons to be learnt from many other corporate experiences. Ours have gone progressively downhill of late.

[Charlie Wayman]

To clairfy, Matt was not whinging.

 

So what do you call it then?

 

Embittered indeed.

 

We'll judge Mr Cortese from our own experience in time thank you very much and if passing on stories you've been told is not stirring then what do you call it?

 

For goodness sake let's have bit of harmony around the place for long enough to enjoy it, we are in a good place no thanks to MlT and every thanks to Nicole Cortese so that's where I'll put my trust and probably many more feel like me. We are sick and tired of naysayers and fifth columnists here.

[OldNick]

So what do you call it then?

 

Embittered indeed.

 

We'll judge Mr Cortese from our own experience in time thank you very much and if passing on stories you've been told is not stirring then what do you call it?

 

For goodness sake let's have bit of harmony around the place for long enough to enjoy it, we are in a good place no thanks to MlT and every thanks to Nicole Cortese so that's where I'll put my trust and probably many more feel like me. We are sick and tired of naysayers and fifth columnists here.

well put, why do people keep trying to destabilise the club. These are people who who we have adored over the years and are now hurting us as we are torn both ways.

[Saint-Armstrong]

Some more from MLT on Twitter just now:

 

speak to anyone privately who works at the club and see who they think is damaging the club.

 

abusing the history of the club will probably be more divisive as well as meddling in transfers and team selections

 

i wont let him walk all over me as he does with others who let him get away with it for reasons of their own

 

 

 

Someone then said to Matt that there wouldn't be a Southampton FC without Cortese, to which he replied:

 

simply not true, there were several other interested parties willing to buy club. And u know its not his money right?

[Nexstar]

Matt Le Tissier ‏@mattletiss7

I will always be incredibly grateful to the liebherr family for investing their money in our football club. Markus deserves a statue i think

 

Waiting for Simon Peach to run a story: 'Le Tiss thinks Liebherr was quite a nice man'

[Colinjb]

Matt, please. Show some dignity.

[Saint-Armstrong]

Matt Le Tissier ‏@mattletiss7

I will always be incredibly grateful to the liebherr family for investing their money in our football club. Markus deserves a statue i think

 

Waiting for Simon Peach to run a story: 'Le Tiss thinks Liebherr was quite a nice man'

 

[manji]

My god MLT is seriously becoming a bitter old **** isnt he ?

[aintforever]

Le Tiss has every right to speak his mind considering all he did for he club. Loyalty works both ways, some Saints fans are just ****ing hypocrites.

[Colinjb]

Le Tiss has every right to speak his mind considering all he did for he club. Loyalty works both ways, some Saints fans are just ****ing hypocrites.

 

Oh, absolutely. But I think we understood his viewpoint over 18 months ago. Retreating old ground for the sake of it to push an agenda he has against the club CEO at a time we need to pull together is a bit much for me.

[aintforever]

Oh, absolutely. But I think we understood his viewpoint over 18 months ago. Retreating old ground for the sake of it to push an agenda he has against the club CEO at a time we need to pull together is a bit much for me.

 

I disagree. he could have said a whole lot more than he has. I think he has shown great restraint.

[Colinjb]

I think he has shown great restraint.

 

Then, as said before; until some explicit candour is shown by those sniping this will only continue to reflect badly on them.

[LGTL]

MLT must think he has really been shat on here, he doesn't strike me as a man who would hold a grudge otherwise, he's too laid back. Not knowing the facts either way though, I'm not taking sides as I think it's a bit playground. He will never be a "bitter old ****" to me though and it's so sad it's come to all this.

[Saints foreva]

People on this forum really do not like people saying bad things about our "super" chairman do they?

 

Le Tissier said a few weeks ago that he would happily meet with Cortese to sort things out but Cortese isn't interested in doing this. I wonder why?

[aintforever]

Then, as said before; until some explicit candour is shown by those sniping this will only continue to reflect badly on them.

 

Considering how other clubs treat their legends I think what we already know is more than reason enough for Le Tiss to be put out.

 

Put it this way, if Cortese is a true fan of SFC, why is he treating this guy like a c*nt...

 

[Colinjb]

Considering how other clubs treat their legends I think what we already know is more than reason enough for Le Tiss to be put out.

 

Put it this way, if Cortese is a true fan of SFC, why is he treating this guy like a c*nt...

 

 

Behind closed doors, who can say what happens. It is not impossible for good people from different spectrums and walks of life to completely clash.

 

Le Tissier is an inspiration, a hero when I was growing up and I would dearly love to see him at peace with the current status quo.

 

However, there is only one person though staying quiet in this and not trying to wash their linen in public. I really wish that le God was rising above it, yet here we are. I have no doubt that Le God feels he is acting out of the club's best interests but the timing of his reitterated comments was stupid and needless.

Edited 19 October, 2012 by Colinjb