Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Matty has always proved himself a legend on and off the pitch. Approachable, generous and loyal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_kev Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Matty has always proved himself a legend on and off the pitch. Approachable, generous and loyal. off the pitch?? up to the point he left his wife and kids for a z-list teenage soap star. And as for legend status...is MLT is being eclipsed by one Ricky Lambert? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 What matty is saying pretty much rings true with various people i know who are or have worked for the club during his time there, yeah he might be successful (at the moment) but i've heard very few good things said about him as a person. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Matt has earned the right to voice his opinion and from what I've heard, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Matt has earned the right to voice his opinion and from what I've heard, I agree. Does being 'not a nice human being' disqualify someone from being a strong and successful CEO/Chairman? I've known people to say that Rupert Lowe was a very nice person. We know how that worked out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Does being 'not a nice human being' disqualify someone from being a strong and successful CEO/Chairman?. No one is saying it does. In fact it probably helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 (edited) No one is saying it does. In fact it probably helps. Quite. Therefore I doubt these news stories do anything to undermine Cortese, in a perverse way it probably strengthens his position. Edited 17 October, 2012 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 (edited) You sound like a very bitter failed journalist. Just saying. Nah not really. Don't write snappily enough to become one even if I wanted to. Lets just say I have worked with enough journos to know what they're about -or at least know the tricks of the trade. In a way, its not entirely Peach's fault -rather he's reflecting what happens when news is outsourced to press agencies and pressures grow to fill more and more space with less and less investment. Blood from a stone stuff. But that's another discussion. Do I have a problem with an anti-Cortese story. No. Why would I? Indeed, do I really care about Cortese and MLT's feud? One one level, probably not, if its private. But, at the very least, it would be nice to have specifics for a story that, in one guise or another, has been doing the rounds for nearly three years. How does this story qualify as 'news'? Unlike some, I am capable of divorcing the principle from the personalities involved -a club legend and an enthusiastic saints supporter -both of whom I have obvious allegiances with. The story is garbage regardless who wrote it. If anything, you would hope (naively perhaps) that being a saints supporter would come with a heightened sense of responsibility -not a giddy desire to feed the dogs of war in any desperate way you can because that's what sells. Just saying. Edited 17 October, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 I read page 1 of this thread and the link to the Simon Peach/MLT interview. Excuse me for not reading every comment, but the facts were on page 1. Simon Peach is a journalist and decided to report the story. Except there was no story to report. All MLT says is "one day you'll find out things about Cortese that confirm he isn't very nice." So I hope if MLT calls again, or indeed if Peach ever feels like calling MLT, then I hope there is no second conversation. Peach needs to say "sorry Matt, it's not in the best interests of the Club to talk more or write anything. Your conclusion may prove correct in the future, but right now, let's row in the same direction." In short, I agree with those who say "put up or shut up." Stop wimpering, Matt. Unless you want to lay down to us your concerns now, then shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Matty was the reason why I still support the Saints, followed him at Staplewood etc. when dropped by Branfoot, made watching Saints a joy. Still a season ticket holder, but to be honest I just don't give a damn about their ongoing spat. If I gave a toss about such things I would watch some crappy soap opera! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 What matty is saying pretty much rings true with various people i know who are or have worked for the club during his time there, yeah he might be successful (at the moment) but i've heard very few good things said about him as a person. Matt has earned the right to voice his opinion and from what I've heard, I agree.. So you 2, MLT and Turkish have all heard "things" that confirm NC is "not a very nice person"...yet not one of you has said exactly what it is that makes him thus. Obviously there's not fire without smoke etc. etc. so maybe you can elucidate? After all, if it's all true, you have no fear of being sued for libel/defamation of character etc. etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Pathetic. The only winner in this frankly is Nicola Cortese - he has the dignity to keep his own counsel and get on with making the club great again. Matt should rise above this rubbish - thought by now he'd be more media savvy TBH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 So you 2, MLT and Turkish have all heard "things" that confirm NC is "not a very nice person"...yet not one of you has said exactly what it is that makes him thus. Obviously there's not fire without smoke etc. etc. so maybe you can elucidate? After all, if it's all true, you have no fear of being sued for libel/defamation of character etc. etc. Problem is to do so would implicate the people involved and given how small the football industry is that could have a terrible effect on their careers. So for that reason alone i'm bound to just passing on vagaries. Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 It's all very he said, she said. When will someone grow a pair and tell the rest of us who don't pretend to be ITK or a superfan what the actual issues are? Otherwise just drop it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Dangerous territory for me but here goes. Simon Peach - imo is a good journalist, an informative tweeter and someone whose opinion I have come to respect. We like it when he tells us "nice" things (Ramirez signing) but not when he tells us "uncomfortable" things, For Christ sake give the guy a break - he just reports what he hears. That is his job. MLT - a straight, honest guy who gave this club plenty and much much more besides. A big fan who loves this club and does so much for charity etc etc etc. He does not like NC. Fair enough he is entitled to his opinion. NC - I have never met him so I can't comment on his personal qualities or personality, I have heard plenty of rumours but he has never done me any harm and has allowed me the privilege of keeping "official historian" status so personally I have no complaints. He has more than delivered in terms of where this club is now compared to where we were when he took over. But he is not God and if Matt wants to criticise and Simon wants to report it, let's just accept that and let's not shoot the messenger or his source. Life is full of people who do not get on the trouble is people on this forum turn every development into a contest of who is right and who is wrong. Fair Points Duncan. I Guess I am just suprized at a couple of things really - the first is why on earth Matty would be worried that he had been duped over pinnicle - could have happened to anyone, given that there was hardly time to do due diligence etc.. Think if this has anything to do with it, then Matty needs to stop letting his ego be concerned about it - no one is thinks any less of him because of it... and yeah with hindsight and all that... I agree some folk just dont get on and that's life, but right now there is only one of the parties making this public knowledge and therefore without anything concrete it just looks a bit silly. Also given how are we have come as a club, its also in most fans mindset to want to think the best of NC - with a few obvious exceptions - Its always far better to think of peoplw in a positive way.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 17 October, 2012 Share Posted 17 October, 2012 Problem is to do so would implicate the people involved and given how small the football industry is that could have a terrible effect on their careers. So for that reason alone i'm bound to just passing on vagaries. Sorry I get the need to preserve sources, but I don't believe that precludes sharing more without the source or specifics being identified. Saying "I know stuff but can't say" is just daft. It's not difficult to give information but avoid blowing someones cover and/or making defamatory remarks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 So you 2, MLT and Turkish have all heard "things" that confirm NC is "not a very nice person"...yet not one of you has said exactly what it is that makes him thus. Obviously there's not fire without smoke etc. etc. so maybe you can elucidate? After all, if it's all true, you have no fear of being sued for libel/defamation of character etc. etc. Okay. Let's see this spazbaord and the CoCs spin on this Why do people think the ticket office is a shambles and the ticket office managers job has been a revolving door, since Luker left, who most agree was doing a good job, who by coincidence has also left Why do people think the corporate areas are a shambles with poor value for money and more empty boxes than full ones? Again the corporate sales manager job is a revolving door, this includes the ex corporate manager at Man City, who lasted 6 months. How many other clubs experience virtually no increase in corporate sales and empty areas on promotion to the premier league? Why were the echo banned? Why was Illingworth banned. Lifelong fan and long term season ticket holder who has been to more games than most of you lot put together Why were all media banned in a bizarre decision which only made us a figure of fun and had to quickly be backtracked on? Why is Adkins in fear of his job, at a time when we were celebrating successive promotions and being 2 years ahead of our planned return to the premier league? Why did it take so long to get building contractor to build staplewood and when we eventually do they walk of site 6 months after starting work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Because he is not a nice person Turkish? If that was the trade off for the last few seasons.... I would have snapped your hand off.. It seems that no matter who runs a decent sized club... There is always a twist... Ours is that our chairman is a bit of a cvnt! Why couldn't matty just say that? (or, what his beef is) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Okay. Let's see this spazbaord and the CoCs spin on this Why do people think the ticket office is a shambles and the ticket office managers job has been a revolving door, since Luker left, who most agree was doing a good job, who by coincidence has also left Why do people think the corporate areas are a shambles with poor value for money and more empty boxes than full ones? Again the corporate sales manager job is a revolving door, this includes the ex corporate manager at Man City, who lasted 6 months. How many other clubs experience virtually no increase in corporate sales and empty areas on promotion to the premier league? Why were the echo banned? Why was Illingworth banned. Lifelong fan and long term season ticket holder who has been to more games than most of you lot put together Why were all media banned in a bizarre decision which only made us a figure of fun and had to quickly be backtracked on? Why is Adkins in fear of his job, at a time when we were celebrating successive promotions and being 2 years ahead of our planned return to the premier league? Why did it take so long to get building contractor to build staplewood and when we eventually do they walk of site 6 months after starting work? No idea. Perhaps several of those people weren't up to scratch. Anyone could speculate why to to all of the above but if you know the answer please share (sources not needed, so no excuses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodles34 Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 off the pitch?? up to the point he left his wife and kids for a z-list teenage soap star. And as for legend status...is MLT is being eclipsed by one Ricky Lambert? first bit is irrelevant, and the answer is no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 off the pitch?? up to the point he left his wife and kids for a z-list teenage soap star. And as for legend status...is MLT is being eclipsed by one Ricky Lambert? I love lambert but he isn't in the same universe in terms of what le tiss did for our club. Get you're facts right too, he didn't leave his wife for Marilyn in home and away that was a long time after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 You sure about that Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chorlton Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Roger is correct. And it is also irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 first bit is irrelevant, and the answer is no first bit is also incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 You sure about that Roger Absolutely. First Matty was a better footballer more skilful and a greater range of passing and when he was younger could go past players. Played for us from 17-32 all in the prem single handily keeping us up a number of years and was loyal when he could have gone anywhere. Lambert has been the best since as Matty says but hardly even played at top flight yet and only here just over 3 years doesn't compare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 I know that Roger... Was not sure of the dates of him leaving his wife Not that it matters as I'm sure his spat with nc is for pure footballing reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 I have a client whose client is NC. He says he is a total control freak - an absolute nigtmare. Another clients Nephew came over from Ireland to be Head Chef on the promise that the very out dated kitchen would be replaced with a few months. It never got replaced so he resigned. Private Bankers are a ruthless bunch in my experience & i have had quite a few as clients when I was working in Geneva. I have shared a lunch table with MLT & he did not go into detail, but the impression i got was that its Cortese's wayor the high way. Again, I am not in the slightest bit surprised. Someone earlier mentioned Rickie replacing MLT in the legend stakes. Rickie has been a top top player for Saints, but comparing him to MLT is quite silly IMHO. I dont like some of the things I hear about NC, but there is no doubt we are in a lot better place now than when he joined us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Okay. Let's see this spazbaord and the CoCs spin on this Why do people think the ticket office is a shambles and the ticket office managers job has been a revolving door, since Luker left, who most agree was doing a good job, who by coincidence has also left Why do people think the corporate areas are a shambles with poor value for money and more empty boxes than full ones? Again the corporate sales manager job is a revolving door, this includes the ex corporate manager at Man City, who lasted 6 months. How many other clubs experience virtually no increase in corporate sales and empty areas on promotion to the premier league? Why were the echo banned? Why was Illingworth banned. Lifelong fan and long term season ticket holder who has been to more games than most of you lot put together Why were all media banned in a bizarre decision which only made us a figure of fun and had to quickly be backtracked on? Why is Adkins in fear of his job, at a time when we were celebrating successive promotions and being 2 years ahead of our planned return to the premier league? Why did it take so long to get building contractor to build staplewood and when we eventually do they walk of site 6 months after starting work? To be fair, in answer to most of the above; who gives a sh*t apart from people on this mongboard? *yawn* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 I know that Roger... Was not sure of the dates of him leaving his wife Not that it matters as I'm sure his spat with nc is for pure footballing reasons Ms Symonds came on the scene way after the split iirc. In between times Mlt was knocking around with a then colleague of mine. It was years ago but I'm as sure as I can be that it was that way around. Got fook all to do with the thread though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 I know that Roger... Was not sure of the dates of him leaving his wife Not that it matters as I'm sure his spat with nc is for pure footballing reasons Left his wife in April 97 for Angela someone who he is now married to. Went out with Emily symonds in 99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 To be fair, in answer to most of the above; who gives a sh*t apart from people on this mongboard? *yawn* I agree, but if people claim to know answers they should say more, ie say what you know or keep it zipped. Corky Morris has told us what he knows and hasn't embarrassed anyone, if others really know stuff then do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 off the pitch?? up to the point he left his wife and kids for a z-list teenage soap star. And as for legend status...is MLT is being eclipsed by one Ricky Lambert? Just ask anybody who has ever had dealings with him off the pitch. Is MLT being eclipsed by Ricky? You obviously did not watch Saints in late eighties early nineties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Just ask anybody who has ever had dealings with him off the pitch. Is MLT being eclipsed by Ricky? You obviously did not watch Saints in late eighties early nineties. Spot on. Le tiss was an outstanding footballer and doubt whether I will ever see a saints player as good again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Does being 'not a nice human being' disqualify someone from being a strong and successful CEO/Chairman? I've known people to say that Rupert Lowe was a very nice person. We know how that worked out. Unfortunately to rise to the top now days being a not nice human being is more often than not a key qualification! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Spot on. Le tiss was an outstanding footballer and doubt whether I will ever see a saints player as good again. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Remember the days of Lowe, Wilde, Lowe..... all interested in self publicity? There was almost universal calls for a chairman who would quietly stay in the background, and allow the team to flourish? A chairman who would sign players better than we have? Would improve the side? We have all the above. Do I care about whether MLT likes him? Not in the slightest. Do I care about who runs the ticket office, corporate sales? Not in the slightest. Do I care about the relationship with the echo (who made errors in their reporting and didn't like the consequences) not in the slightest. Do I know details of Illingsworths dispute? No. Have I heard stories that put him in bad light as well..? Do I care about the media spat? Actually found it quite amusing. Do I care about the contract issues with builders? Not in the slightest. Do I think Adkins job is more vulnerable than any other manager or less in similar circumstances...less. Do I care what MLT thinks about Cortese? Not in the slightest. How did the reporting of MLT's comments sound on Solent this morning? Like MLT was 10 years old whining he doesn't like someone. Are MLT concerns about issues that would have a negative impact on saints? No - MLT has said so himself. Therefore irrelevant, personal issues. Do I think Cortese is likely to be personable, caring and perfect? no. Has any chairman had such a positive impact on any English club recently in moving them forward, bringing attractive football and players? No. Am I killing time at work? Yes! Will leave you with this thought....last transfer window before NC we signed Ryan Smith, this one we signed Gaston Ramirez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paris Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 #Yawn ,Wooden spoon in the post for Peach .................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 I don't like Cortese and I would not be sorry if he left the club tomorrow but I will thank him for introducing the club to Markus so that we still have a club to support. There is a lot of truth in what has been said about NC and as my son in laws cousin work upstairs in the office at St Marys some of the things she has told me back up some of the things that have been said about him. One thing she is convinced of is that if ML was still with us NC would not get away with a great number of things that he has done as Markus spoke to and treated the staff with the greatest of respect when he came to SMS which is the exact opposite to the way NC acts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 So Corteses a control freak (of the club we love) and a perfectionist (about the club we love) and only wants to employ\keep people who are right\beneficial to the club and weed out people who are costly and don't contribute to the progression of the club... That's good right? I can imagine cortese is an arse to work with having had a meal with him and he wasn't the warmest, welcoming friendly person but there's no denying it was clear as anything that he has the best intentions in all areas. Rather that than a lazy, irresponsible, reckless chairman. Until his decisions come close to dropping me from enjoying following saints I dont care what's going on between him and anyone else. They don't get on. That's life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 I don't like Cortese and I would not be sorry if he left the club tomorrow but I will thank him for introducing the club to Markus so that we still have a club to support. There is a lot of truth in what has been said about NC and as my son in laws cousin work upstairs in the office at St Marys some of the things she has told me back up some of the things that have been said about him. One thing she is convinced of is that if ML was still with us NC would not get away with a great number of things that he has done as Markus spoke to and treated the staff with the greatest of respect when he came to SMS which is the exact opposite to the way NC acts. Good cop bad cop.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 And as for legend status...is MLT is being eclipsed by one Ricky Lambert? Do you seriously mean this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 In other news, bears confirmed as doing something smelly in the woods. Neither the pope nor the park ranger were available for comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Remember the days of Lowe, Wilde, Lowe..... all interested in self publicity? There was almost universal calls for a chairman who would quietly stay in the background, and allow the team to flourish? A chairman who would sign players better than we have? Would improve the side? We have all the above. Do I care about whether MLT likes him? Not in the slightest. Do I care about who runs the ticket office, corporate sales? Not in the slightest. Do I care about the relationship with the echo (who made errors in their reporting and didn't like the consequences) not in the slightest. Do I know details of Illingsworths dispute? No. Have I heard stories that put him in bad light as well..? Do I care about the media spat? Actually found it quite amusing. Do I care about the contract issues with builders? Not in the slightest. Do I think Adkins job is more vulnerable than any other manager or less in similar circumstances...less. Do I care what MLT thinks about Cortese? Not in the slightest. How did the reporting of MLT's comments sound on Solent this morning? Like MLT was 10 years old whining he doesn't like someone. Are MLT concerns about issues that would have a negative impact on saints? No - MLT has said so himself. Therefore irrelevant, personal issues. Do I think Cortese is likely to be personable, caring and perfect? no. Has any chairman had such a positive impact on any English club recently in moving them forward, bringing attractive football and players? No. Am I killing time at work? Yes! Will leave you with this thought....last transfer window before NC we signed Ryan Smith, this one we signed Gaston Ramirez. Agree with you on most of the above. NC is here to do a job not to make friends. No doubt he is very ruthless and maybe even a control freak but as long as he has the clubs best interests as #1 priority then all the doubters/haters need to let him get on with his job and just enjoy the ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 In other news, bears confirmed as doing something smelly in the woods. Neither the pope nor the park ranger were available for comment. My mate heard NC has gagged them and threatened to takeaway match tickets if they speak out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 No idea. Perhaps several of those people weren't up to scratch. Anyone could speculate why to to all of the above but if you know the answer please share (sources not needed, so no excuses). So they are all not up to it? Maybe our HR department is not up to it either if it keeps on recruiting duffers! Luker has gone and I think we all agree he was doing a very good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 To be fair, in answer to most of the above; who gives a sh*t apart from people on this mongboard? *yawn* Don't get lemon because you've been to couple of Krav Maga lessons! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Okay. Let's see this spazbaord and the CoCs spin on this Why do people think the ticket office is a shambles and the ticket office managers job has been a revolving door, since Luker left, who most agree was doing a good job, who by coincidence has also left Why do people think the corporate areas are a shambles with poor value for money and more empty boxes than full ones? Again the corporate sales manager job is a revolving door, this includes the ex corporate manager at Man City, who lasted 6 months. How many other clubs experience virtually no increase in corporate sales and empty areas on promotion to the premier league? Why were the echo banned? Why was Illingworth banned. Lifelong fan and long term season ticket holder who has been to more games than most of you lot put together Why were all media banned in a bizarre decision which only made us a figure of fun and had to quickly be backtracked on? Why is Adkins in fear of his job, at a time when we were celebrating successive promotions and being 2 years ahead of our planned return to the premier league? Why did it take so long to get building contractor to build staplewood and when we eventually do they walk of site 6 months after starting work? With such (evidenced) desperate failings, I think we should put a march out, to get Cortese and his crew out! How otherwise will saints survive these travesties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 So Corteses a control freak (of the club we love) and a perfectionist (about the club we love) and only wants to employ\keep people who are right\beneficial to the club and weed out people who are costly and don't contribute to the progression of the club... That's good right? I can imagine cortese is an arse to work with having had a meal with him and he wasn't the warmest, welcoming friendly person but there's no denying it was clear as anything that he has the best intentions in all areas. Rather that than a lazy, irresponsible, reckless chairman. Until his decisions come close to dropping me from enjoying following saints I dont care what's going on between him and anyone else. They don't get on. That's life. Echo this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 I just wish he would drop this as it is not helpful. There is no point raking up the Pinnacle debacle as they did not have any money and Matt should have verified that when he was allegedly asked to join it by the SFc administrator. Saints fans have varying views on Mr Cortese but he is responsible with Markus Liebherr for putting us where we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 18 October, 2012 Share Posted 18 October, 2012 Remember the days of Lowe, Wilde, Lowe..... all interested in self publicity? There was almost universal calls for a chairman who would quietly stay in the background, and allow the team to flourish? A chairman who would sign players better than we have? Would improve the side? We have all the above. Do I care about whether MLT likes him? Not in the slightest. Do I care about who runs the ticket office, corporate sales? Not in the slightest. Do I care about the relationship with the echo (who made errors in their reporting and didn't like the consequences) not in the slightest. Do I know details of Illingsworths dispute? No. Have I heard stories that put him in bad light as well..? Do I care about the media spat? Actually found it quite amusing. Do I care about the contract issues with builders? Not in the slightest. Do I think Adkins job is more vulnerable than any other manager or less in similar circumstances...less. Do I care what MLT thinks about Cortese? Not in the slightest. How did the reporting of MLT's comments sound on Solent this morning? Like MLT was 10 years old whining he doesn't like someone. Are MLT concerns about issues that would have a negative impact on saints? No - MLT has said so himself. Therefore irrelevant, personal issues. Do I think Cortese is likely to be personable, caring and perfect? no. Has any chairman had such a positive impact on any English club recently in moving them forward, bringing attractive football and players? No. Am I killing time at work? Yes! Will leave you with this thought....last transfer window before NC we signed Ryan Smith, this one we signed Gaston Ramirez. Sums it up for me..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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