Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 How is it not match fixing? Your trying to imply match fixing = end result. Which isn't true. Saying your kick the ball out at xyz seconds and then doing it is still "fixing". Have you even read the article? He says himself it wouldn't affect the outcome of the match. It might be stupid and it might be "fixing" a bet, but it isn't match fixing and anywhere near as dramatic as you tried suggesting it was. 'Obviously I'd never have done anything that might have affected the outcome of the match, but I couldn't see a problem with making a few quid on the time of the first throw-in." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Have you even read the article? He says himself it wouldn't affect the outcome of the match. It might be stupid and it might be "fixing" a bet, but it isn't match fixing and anywhere near as dramatic as you tried suggesting it was. 'Obviously I'd never have done anything that might have affected the outcome of the match, but I couldn't see a problem with making a few quid on the time of the first throw-in." maybe...but I wonder if from kicking the ball out...would we have scored from that move...? did the oppo score from retaining possession...? we will never know and we never went down...so he gets away with it because of who he is... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Have you even read the article? He says himself it wouldn't affect the outcome of the match. It might be stupid and it might be "fixing" a bet, but it isn't match fixing and anywhere near as dramatic as you tried suggesting it was. 'Obviously I'd never have done anything that might have affected the outcome of the match, but I couldn't see a problem with making a few quid on the time of the first throw-in." I think you seem to miss the point Turkish. It isn't about how bad something was it is about how someone behaved. Cortese acts awful at times and the Adkins one is a prime example of it. But MLT has acted awful in the past too so shouldn't be so quick to say who are good/bad. Or who has brought shame onto the club. If you read what Claus say's he thinks it was a lot worse then what Matty say's it was. Maybe there is some truth to it or maybe it is the ramblings of a guy needing money to buy alcohol, who knows. But if you honestly believe he only did it once and is not telling the whole story I think your probably being a bit naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod @mattletiss7 Admired you as a player, but is a one-way slanging match in public on weekly basis against Cortese a good idea? Expand 2m Matt Le Tissier @mattletiss7 @MatthewLeGod so u want me to roll over and let him tickle my tummy too? Care too much about sfc's reputation for that Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorite More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 maybe...but I wonder if from kicking the ball out...would we have scored from that move...? did the oppo score from retaining possession...? we will never know and we never went down...so he gets away with it because of who he is... Giving away a throw in on the half way line 5 seconds into a game isn't going to directly affect the outcome of the match is it. it was very silly thing to do, but lets not be all dramatic about it and claim he was trying to fix the outcome of matches. He wasn't missing penalties, scoring own goals or getting himself deliberatly sent off was he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I think you seem to miss the point Turkish. It isn't about how bad something was it is about how someone behaved. Cortese acts awful at times and the Adkins one is a prime example of it. But MLT has acted awful in the past too so shouldn't be so quick to say who are good/bad. Or who has brought shame onto the club. If you read what Claus say's he thinks it was a lot worse then what Matty say's it was. Maybe there is some truth to it or maybe it is the ramblings of a guy needing money to buy alcohol, who knows. But if you honestly believe he only did it once and is not telling the whole story I think your probably being a bit naive. I'm not missing the point. You accused him of match fixing. you are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Giving away a throw in on the half way line 5 seconds into a game isn't going to directly affect the outcome of the match is it. it was very silly thing to do, but lets not be all dramatic about it and claim he was trying to fix the outcome of matches. He wasn't missing penalties, scoring own goals or getting himself deliberatly sent off was he. dunno..have seen saints score and concede straight from kick off before.. we will never know, but to suggest giving the ball to the opposition on purpose has no effect is just stupid. like I said, he is a legend to me and the best player I will ever see play for saints....but he only gets away with what he did for me because of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I'm not missing the point. You accused him of match fixing. you are wrong. Match fixing = Anything in a match that is pre-determined and bet on for financial gain by players or officials involved. It even has a name within match fixing. It is called "Spot fixing". Your wrong and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Match fixing = Anything in a match that is pre-determined and bet on for financial gain by players or officials involved. Your wrong and you know it. match-fixing noun /ˈmætʃˌfɪk.sɪŋ/ Definition dishonest activity to make sure that one team wins a particular sports match It's you that's wrong sunshine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod @mattletiss7 Admired you as a player, but is a one-way slanging match in public on weekly basis against Cortese a good idea? Expand 2m Matt Le Tissier @mattletiss7 @MatthewLeGod so u want me to roll over and let him tickle my tummy too? Care too much about sfc's reputation for that Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorite More Should have threatened him with dropping his attributes on FM if he ever gets included in it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 match-fixing noun /ˈmætʃˌfɪk.sɪŋ/ Definition dishonest activity to make sure that one team wins a particular sports match It's you that's wrong sunshine. As I said go read "Spot fixing". However you try and defend it Turkish MLT acted dishonestly with the intention to take money from a person/company by "fixing" an event in a "match". He should not be accusing anyone of bringing shame to a club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 (edited) As I said go read "Spot fixing". However you try and defend it Turkish MLT acted dishonestly with the intention to take money from a person/company by "fixing" an event in a "match". He should not be accusing anyone of bringing shame to a club Spot fixing is not match fixing. Match fixing is doing something that affects the outcome of the match. You tried to be all dramatic and accused him of match fixing. Now you're back tracking and saying it doesn't matter how big it was. You said he was match fixing; you're wrong. And i'm not defending him. Unless you've lost the ability to read i said he was a plum for doing it and it was stupid. Still dont let that get in the way, you've a reputation for being a drama queen. Edited 23 January, 2013 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 match-fixing noun /ˈmætʃˌfɪk.sɪŋ/ Definition dishonest activity to make sure that one team wins a particular sports match It's you that's wrong sunshine.either way it was dishonest. Thankfully it was not unearthed whilst he was in our side as the FA may have given the club points deductions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 either way it was dishonest. Thankfully it was not unearthed whilst he was in our side as the FA may have given the club points deductions I agree. It was stupid and dishonest. But it wasn't what St Marco was trying to make out that is was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Stupid thing to do but too many folk being far to drama queenish about it with the "match fixing" bollooxs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Matt wasnt covered in glory after the Celebration Plaza debacle either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 MLG taking him to task on Twitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 See MLT was on talksport again slagging Cortese off Talking of predictable things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 MLG taking him to task on Twitter. I wouldn't put it quite like that, I doubt he'd talk to me if I were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod @mattletiss7 Admired you as a player, but is a one-way slanging match in public on weekly basis against Cortese a good idea? Expand 2m Matt Le Tissier @mattletiss7 @MatthewLeGod so u want me to roll over and let him tickle my tummy too? Care too much about sfc's reputation for that Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorite More 'MatthewLeGod' really didn't pick the right username did he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le Tissier Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Does anyone actually give a **** if a few players bet on the time of the first throw in. Get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Spot fixing is not match fixing. Match fixing is doing something that affects the outcome of the match. You tried to be all dramatic and accused him of match fixing. Now you're back tracking and saying it doesn't matter how big it was. You said he was match fixing you're wrong. And i'm not defending him. Unless you've lost the ability to read i said he was a plum for doing it and it was stupid. Still dont let that get in the way, you've a reputation for being a drama queen. Dude you really do need to go outside find a women and get laid or something.... I am not tracking back at all. There is no shame in being wrong and I will be the first to admit when I am. In this instance you have gone all Carol Vorderman on us insisting every word used ever must be used with the correct definition of that word. That is pretty sad and petty and shows what type of person you are. In the correct English definition of match fixing it means a result. However it isn't the way I meant it and everyone else could understand the way I intended it to be said. Rather then go with the context of the word and debate the point in which it was obviously being used you decided to go on a definition crusade. So well done hope it was worth it? But regardless of what you say Turkish to me and i'm sure everyone else see's spot fixing in the same light as match fixing. They are both dishonest and are done so by people who want to gain financially by rigging (am I allowed to say that Carol?) an event in a match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFrost Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Match fixing = Anything in a match that is pre-determined and bet on for financial gain by players or officials involved. It even has a name within match fixing. It is called "Spot fixing". Your wrong and you know it. I'm not missing the point. You accused him of match fixing. you are wrong. (yawn) You're both right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 'MatthewLeGod' really didn't pick the right username did he! I'm not attacking him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Dude you really do need to go outside find a women and get laid or something.... I am not tracking back at all. There is no shame in being wrong and I will be the first to admit when I am. In this instance you have gone all Carol Vorderman on us insisting every word used ever must be used with the correct definition of that word. That is pretty sad and petty and shows what type of person you are. In the correct English definition of match fixing it means a result. However it isn't the way I meant it and everyone else could understand the way I intended it to be said. Rather then go with the context of the word and debate the point in which it was obviously being used you decided to go on a definition crusade. So well done hope it was worth it? But regardless of what you say Turkish to me and i'm sure everyone else see's spot fixing in the same light as match fixing. They are both dishonest and are done so by people who want to gain financially by rigging (am I allowed to say that Carol?) an event in a match. Match fixing = deliberately doing something to ensure one team wins and affect the result Spot fixing = where a specific part of a game is fixed. Examples include something as minor as timing a no ball or wide delivery in cricket or timing the first throw-in or corner in association football Spot fixing is much more minor. Its like accusing someone of GBH with intent when they have commited common assault. MLT attempted to commit spot fixing. You said he was guilty of match fixing. You are wrong and no amount of cracking one out of Carol Voderman on Countdown is going to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Stupid thing to do but too many folk being far to drama queenish about it with the "match fixing" bollooxs. I could very well be wrong on this, but I seem to remember someone saying that it wasn't actually possible to bet on the time of the first throw in back when Le Tiss claimed they did this. Anyone know for definite either way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 FM Saints Researcher @MatthewLeGod @mattletiss7 Admired you as a player, but is a one-way slanging match in public on weekly basis against Cortese a good idea? Expand 2m Matt Le Tissier @mattletiss7 @MatthewLeGod so u want me to roll over and let him tickle my tummy too? Care too much about sfc's reputation for that Hide conversation Reply Retweet Favorite More Cares about the clubs reputation my arse. Hes been throwing dirt around since he did the Sky coverage of Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final. Not one fact has come out just a show of bitterness and a lack of intelligence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 You said he was guilty of match fixing. You are wrong I admit I was wrong. I meant spot fixing. All hail Turkish! Can we now get back to talking about Saints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I could very well be wrong on this, but I seem to remember someone saying that it wasn't actually possible to bet on the time of the first throw in back when Le Tiss claimed they did this. Anyone know for definite either way? I remember that too now you mention it. It was a while back and i think people said he made it for his book to add a bit of controversy!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Cares about the clubs reputation my arse. Hes been throwing dirt around since he did the Sky coverage of Johnstone's Paint Trophy Final. Not one fact has come out just a show of bitterness and a lack of intelligence. If you have met LeTissier a lack of intelligence are things you probably would not mention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I see over on Twitter our very own Matt Le God is having a mass debate with MLT about Cortese. Quite civil at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Spot fixing, match fixing - still fraud at the end of the day. As those Pakistani cricketers have just found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 If you have met LeTissier a lack of intelligence are things you probably would not mention. I think I would. Falling for the Pinnacle bid would be an excellent example. His constant dopey comments in the press that are alieanating his fans, Spot fixing, getting involved in the Celebration Plaza debacle etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Matt Le Tissier @mattletiss7 @MatthewLeGod i'd happily sit with him at a fans forum to discuss things and clear the air Zero chance of that happening though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Fairplay MLG, good to see someone try to envourage a truce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Fairplay MLG, good to see someone try to envourage a truce. just had a look...and although he does my head in.. he is being pretty fair on that twitter malarky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Matt Le Tissier @mattletiss7 @MatthewLeGod i'd happily sit with him at a fans forum to discuss things and clear the air Zero chance of that happening though. Yeah and le tiss knows that. He's just said he wouldn't have a private meeting with Cortese unless he pays what he owes. What's that about?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Yeah and le tiss knows that. He's just said he wouldn't have a private meeting with Cortese unless he pays what he owes. What's that about?? Probably benalis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Sanchez Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I think I would. Falling for the Pinnacle bid would be an excellent example. His constant dopey comments in the press that are alieanating his fans, Spot fixing, getting involved in the Celebration Plaza debacle etc etc He is not alienating me as he talks sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Fairplay MLG, good to see someone try to envourage a truce. just had a look...and although he does my head in.. he is being pretty fair on that twitter malarky Well if I wasn't Le Tissier wouldn't reply to me would he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Matt Le Tissier @mattletiss7 We will be raising money for the honeypot charity in the new foerest and help a guernsey child, thanks I love how Tiss bangs out a charity tweet everytime he's had a rant about Cortese on twitter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollysaints1 Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Complete disgrace how people are treating Le Tiss, He deserves an apology not hate, seeing as most of the stuff he has said about Cortese has come out to be true. People are clearly very quick to forget what Le God achieved for Southampton Fc, he is entitled to speak his mind as a FAN and as a pundit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I think I would. Falling for the Pinnacle bid would be an excellent example. His constant dopey comments in the press that are alieanating his fans, Spot fixing, getting involved in the Celebration Plaza debacle etc etc What on earth has that to do with anything? He took the plunge in a business venture and things did not work out. I fail to see any connection with this discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Well if I wasn't Le Tissier wouldn't reply to me would he. Why don't you use your real name on Twitter like most normal people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Why don't you use your real name on Twitter like most normal people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Why don't you use your real name on Twitter like most normal people? I think you answered your own question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 I think you answered your own question. Touche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Complete disgrace how people are treating Le Tiss, He deserves an apology not hate, seeing as most of the stuff he has said about Cortese has come out to be true. People are clearly very quick to forget what Le God achieved for Southampton Fc, he is entitled to speak his mind as a FAN and as a pundit. As much as I admired MLT the footballer, he really should move on and keep his obvious dislike of NC to himself. He may have very good reason for the problem between them but it is getting rather tiresome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Complete disgrace how people are treating Le Tiss, He deserves an apology not hate, seeing as most of the stuff he has said about Cortese has come out to be true. People are clearly very quick to forget what Le God achieved for Southampton Fc, he is entitled to speak his mind as a FAN and as a pundit. Oh come on, the bloke's acting like a big girl's blouse... all he has to do is shut up and stop bleating! The club is nothing to do with him anymore and it's about time he recognised his place in the scheme of things and moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 23 January, 2013 Share Posted 23 January, 2013 Well done, MLG - being very fair. That said, I bet Tiss wishes he'd never responded to you in the first place now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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