Hatton v Malignaggi predictions

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Now i'm a big fan of Hatton but think he might get beat.

A couple of reasons;

He may be past his best.

He's changed trainers.

He's been in Vegas 5 weeks too long IMO.

Malignaggi has the style to frustrate and out box him.

Opinions please.

[Ponty]

I can't see past a Hatton defeat unfortunately. I get the impression that he's resigned himself to it from the things he says. I won't be watching, I don't really like boxing, but I hope he wins, as a Brit.

[Hatch]

I also think Malignaggi will win

I also think he will win comfortably.

 

One fight too many, timing all wrong, etc etc

[mynameisthehulk]

I think Hatton has lost it, doesnt have the hunger anymore

[Thorpe-le-Saint]

I think Hatton has lost it, doesnt have the hunger anymore

 

Insert joke about Ricky Fatton here

[notnowcato]

Malignaggi does look quick and illusive, I doubt he can hurt Ricky though. Ricky to win on points.

[JohnnyFartPants]

The changing of trainer is surely a positive one as he was treading water with the last one for a few fights. I don't think he is talking as if he is going to lose, only that he is soon to call a halt to his career. I expect him to go out and win.

[sambosa75]

Hatton will win. Dont be fooled by the fact he's got a new trainer. He's probably got the best trainer in the world right now, most definately when it comes to devising strategy and working on defence. If there are two areas Hatton needed to work on, it is strategy and defence.

 

Malignaggi is brash, but that will come to an end when he loses on Saturday. The same way another brash American boxer called Kelly Pavlik has all of a sudden shut up about Joe Calzaghe after he got his arse served to him by Bernard Hopkins.

[Greedyfly]

Hatton will win. Dont be fooled by the fact he's got a new trainer. He's probably got the best trainer in the world right now, most definately when it comes to devising strategy and working on defence. If there are two areas Hatton needed to work on, it is strategy and defence.

 

Malignaggi is brash, but that will come to an end when he loses on Saturday. The same way another brash American boxer called Kelly Pavlik has all of a sudden shut up about Joe Calzaghe after he got his arse served to him by Bernard Hopkins.

 

Hmmmm gotta pull you up on a few things here (IMO of course):

 

Floyd Mayweather Sr.? Best trainer on the planet? That is hugely debatable. His brother lays claim to that mantel more so and even it's arguable with him. Roger Mayweather has a gem of a boxer in Floyd Mayweather Jr. so much in fact that I reckon a blind dog could 'train' him. I would place several other current and recently 'retired' trainers before him...Roach, Steward and McGirt to name but three.

 

Secondly if there are two areas the 'Magic Man' can exploit with Hatton it's his defence and strategy. It's like PBF said "He just comes forward in straight lines"...and lo and behold that's exactly what he did when they fought. Now Malignaggi isn't Mayweather..He is neither as quick nor as gifted but he's a very good technical boxer nonetheless with a ****ing good jaw. Cotto couldnt knock him out and is the only man to put him on his ass...He hits harder than Hatton does.

 

Yes Malignaggi is brash and gobby. He is an Italian-American for christs sake thats what he's like but he does have the technical skills, if not the record or calibre of opponents, to back it up. He'll give Hatton a run for his money so much in fact I will have a cheeky punt on him...That said with a gun to my head I will also plump for Hatton to win. Probably on points.

 

Last point I have to take reference with is the comments regarding Pavlik. He is not a gobby brash American, in fact many in the business regard 'The Ghost' as a very pleasant amiable person. A certain amount of self assureance is necessary for any boxer and he was in a good position to be calling out JC and for my money still is. His loss to a seasoned pro in BHop was not great in the short term but will only do his career a world of good. IMO Hopkins should have at least earned a draw out of JC also. In light of the fight between the Executioner and Pavlik it has been reported that Pavlik had bronchitus in the week leading to the fight and in fact it should have been postponed. This is something the Pavlik camp admit as their mistake and do not take anything away from Hopkins' win at all. Bare it in mind also that Pavlik knocked out, then beat, Jermaine Taylor twice; this is the man that had previously beaten Hopkins twice on the spin. I feel that either a rematch with Hopkins OR better still for JC to fight someone who isn't generally regarded as past it. A stigma that will be attached to his career and what stops him being the best P4P fighter around at the mo...An opinion that a partially share despite recognising Calzaghe as a great champion.

[OLYMPIC]

I hope Hatton wins but just have a feeling time might be catching up with him..Any fighter who's defence consists of leading with his face isn't going to go on to long into his thirties.Also his lifestyle is awfull he openly admits to putting on upto 2-3 stone between fights,now you can't keep loosing that weight quickly to build up for fights without it having some sort of long term effect.

[sambosa75]

Hmmmm gotta pull you up on a few things here (IMO of course):

 

Floyd Mayweather Sr.? Best trainer on the planet? That is hugely debatable. His brother lays claim to that mantel more so and even it's arguable with him. Roger Mayweather has a gem of a boxer in Floyd Mayweather Jr. so much in fact that I reckon a blind dog could 'train' him. I would place several other current and recently 'retired' trainers before him...Roach, Steward and McGirt to name but three.

 

Secondly if there are two areas the 'Magic Man' can exploit with Hatton it's his defence and strategy. It's like PBF said "He just comes forward in straight lines"...and lo and behold that's exactly what he did when they fought. Now Malignaggi isn't Mayweather..He is neither as quick nor as gifted but he's a very good technical boxer nonetheless with a ****ing good jaw. Cotto couldnt knock him out and is the only man to put him on his ass...He hits harder than Hatton does.

 

Yes Malignaggi is brash and gobby. He is an Italian-American for christs sake thats what he's like but he does have the technical skills, if not the record or calibre of opponents, to back it up. He'll give Hatton a run for his money so much in fact I will have a cheeky punt on him...That said with a gun to my head I will also plump for Hatton to win. Probably on points.

 

Last point I have to take reference with is the comments regarding Pavlik. He is not a gobby brash American, in fact many in the business regard 'The Ghost' as a very pleasant amiable person. A certain amount of self assureance is necessary for any boxer and he was in a good position to be calling out JC and for my money still is. His loss to a seasoned pro in BHop was not great in the short term but will only do his career a world of good. IMO Hopkins should have at least earned a draw out of JC also. In light of the fight between the Executioner and Pavlik it has been reported that Pavlik had bronchitus in the week leading to the fight and in fact it should have been postponed. This is something the Pavlik camp admit as their mistake and do not take anything away from Hopkins' win at all. Bare it in mind also that Pavlik knocked out, then beat, Jermaine Taylor twice; this is the man that had previously beaten Hopkins twice on the spin. I feel that either a rematch with Hopkins OR better still for JC to fight someone who isn't generally regarded as past it. A stigma that will be attached to his career and what stops him being the best P4P fighter around at the mo...An opinion that a partially share despite recognising Calzaghe as a great champion.

 

I believe Mayweather Sr, for what Hatton needs to work on is one of the best, if not the best trainer around. Hatton knows that PM is a decent fighter. He also knows if he wants to beat him comfortably, he will need a game plan and a better defence so Malignaggi cant simply rely on allowing Hatton to come in and jabbing him away all through the 12 rounds.

 

Hatton is guilty of attacking in "straight lines" as PBF famously said. With his ability to land crunching body shots, he has been able to get away with it most of the time, Mayweather aside who fought him with almost the perfect game plan. Stick and move at range and tie Hatton up at close quarters. This lead to Hatton becoming frustrated and chasing the match looking for the knock-out which was never likely to come.

 

For what is worth though, I believe Cotto beat PM despite not being able to knock him out. Not that is matters but you make out as if Cotto beating PM after going the distance is a bad thing.

 

As for Pavlik, he might not be as brash as PM but you cant expect to call people out the way he was with Calzaghe, then go on to lose against someone Calzaghe beat. Funny how when Calzaghe beats Hopkins, Hopkins is considered "past-it" but when he beats Pavlik, he is considered a "wily old fox", as the media portrays.

 

I'm not sure Calzaghe needs to fight anyone anymore. His record is perfect, he has beaten everyone there is to beat apart from Pavlik who naused it up for himself by losing to Hopkins, no matter what was going on prior to the fight.

 

As for JC fighting has beens, he despatched Mikkel Kessler who has gone on to be a WBA Super Middle Weight champ. I'm sure there are other fighters out there he COULD fight, but why risk jeopordising the dynasty he has built. He's openly said the last couple of fights have been made due to the money thats been put on the table.

[Evil Monkey]

Does anyone know what time the fight is scheduled to start (GMT)?

 

And if its on anywhere in Southampton?

[revolution saint]

I think Hatton will probably win this one on points. It's a tough one to call though and an in form Malignaggi could do to Hatton what Calzaghe did to Jeff Lacy. There's a lot of similarities to that fight. Hatton comes in straight lines and Malignaggi has the ability to outbox Hatton.

 

That said Malignaggi, like Hatton, has not been impressive recently. Indeed since the Cotto fight he's been pretty disappointing. I'm not sure he can get the form of the Cotto fight back but if he can then he'll win.

 

As for Calzaghe I'm not sure there's much out there for him now. If Pavilk had beaten Hopkins then yes but the manner of the defeat means it's unlikely. For Pavlik to win I think the fight would have to be down at super middleweight as well. After that I guess a rematch with Hopkins is the most realistic. However, JC was a bit lucky in the first fight and I think Hopkins would be much more dangerous this time around. The sensible thing for JC is to retire undefeated.

[saintwarwick]

Hatton on points for me.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Humble pie for me and happy to be proved wrong by Hatton who looked back much better than his last fight.

I though Malignaggi would have put up a better fight like he did against Cotto but he seems to only use one hand which is probably due to fragile hands.

[revolution saint]

Humble pie for me and happy to be proved wrong by Hatton who looked back much better than his last fight.

I though Malignaggi would have put up a better fight like he did against Cotto but he seems to only use one hand which is probably due to fragile hands.

 

Good showing by Hatton but very disappointed with Malignaggi. Outside of the first round he didn't show very much at all and his constant holding was frustrating. He seemed a shadow of the fighter who fought Cotto.

 

The change of trainer seems to have been good for Hatton. I'm a bit worried that he's talking of moving up to welterweight again and I'm not sure it's a good move for him to fight De La Hoya (if DLH beats Manny). Personally I'd like to see Hatton have a shot at Timothy Bradley who looked good against Witter.

[AndyNorthernSaints]

Good showing by Hatton but very disappointed with Malignaggi. Outside of the first round he didn't show very much at all and his constant holding was frustrating. He seemed a shadow of the fighter who fought Cotto.

 

The change of trainer seems to have been good for Hatton. I'm a bit worried that he's talking of moving up to welterweight again and I'm not sure it's a good move for him to fight De La Hoya (if DLH beats Manny). Personally I'd like to see Hatton have a shot at Timothy Bradley who looked good against Witter.

Agree with you there. Hatton said he's the best at his Light Welter so why move up again when he' struggled there.

Tim Bradley looked good against a below par Witter but i'm not sure he's a bigger enough name for Hatton at this stage of his career.

[revolution saint]

Agree with you there. Hatton said he's the best at his Light Welter so why move up again when he' struggled there.

Tim Bradley looked good against a below par Witter but i'm not sure he's a bigger enough name for Hatton at this stage of his career.

 

Yes, Witter was below par in that fight (hadn't his Dad just been diagnosed with cancer?) but the light welter division doesn't have a huge amount of talent left. Unless he can persuade any of the welters to move down. Maybe a better move is to go for Manny regardless of the result against DLH, it could definitely be made at 140lb and financially would make sense for both and give them both a decent chance of winning too. Selling the fight won't be a problem either.

 

Such a shame that Hatton can't cut it at 147 because there's still some cracking fights out there but what's the point? He's just not big enough to cope at that weight.

[Greedyfly]

I believe Mayweather Sr, for what Hatton needs to work on is one of the best, if not the best trainer around. Hatton knows that PM is a decent fighter. He also knows if he wants to beat him comfortably, he will need a game plan and a better defence so Malignaggi cant simply rely on allowing Hatton to come in and jabbing him away all through the 12 rounds.

 

Hatton is guilty of attacking in "straight lines" as PBF famously said. With his ability to land crunching body shots, he has been able to get away with it most of the time, Mayweather aside who fought him with almost the perfect game plan. Stick and move at range and tie Hatton up at close quarters. This lead to Hatton becoming frustrated and chasing the match looking for the knock-out which was never likely to come.

 

For what is worth though, I believe Cotto beat PM despite not being able to knock him out. Not that is matters but you make out as if Cotto beating PM after going the distance is a bad thing.

 

As for Pavlik, he might not be as brash as PM but you cant expect to call people out the way he was with Calzaghe, then go on to lose against someone Calzaghe beat. Funny how when Calzaghe beats Hopkins, Hopkins is considered "past-it" but when he beats Pavlik, he is considered a "wily old fox", as the media portrays.

 

I'm not sure Calzaghe needs to fight anyone anymore. His record is perfect, he has beaten everyone there is to beat apart from Pavlik who naused it up for himself by losing to Hopkins, no matter what was going on prior to the fight.

 

As for JC fighting has beens, he despatched Mikkel Kessler who has gone on to be a WBA Super Middle Weight champ. I'm sure there are other fighters out there he COULD fight, but why risk jeopordising the dynasty he has built. He's openly said the last couple of fights have been made due to the money thats been put on the table.

 

Yeah can't disagree with most of that. What I was trying to point out by mentioning the Cotto PM fight was that as a bigger hitter Cotto was he couldn't take PM down (mind he did mess him up bad). I was underling the fact that PM has a hugely solid jaw and that Hatton would be wise not too simply go out and try and knock him out. Even with the result now as it is.

 

I didn't ever feel BHop was over the hill, he is ridiculously fit and his fighting style allows him to go on possibly longer than the likes of RJJ. Though I put it more down to the fact that RJJ is just past it based on ring time over the last 5 years alone, where Hopkins has stayed active.

 

Pavlik, I like. As you can probably tell from my defence above. I think he will benefit massively from his fight with Hopking...the preperation, the fight itself and what and what not to do. Would like to see that rematch BUT think JC should take on Pavlik too. I think some of the best wins for Joe aren't those with the big names too so I am not trying to rain on his record. I went to the Kessler scrap and he was very impressive and Kessler is and should be a very good champ for years to come. Also the Lacy win was awesome at the time too. BUT he will (and again I think rightly so) always have a bit of an attachment to his record which says fought the right fighters at the right time. A stigma highlighted by Warrens fairly recent and ridiculous comments about his fights being handpicked.

 

Anyway at the end of the day great performance by Hatton yesterday, was nice to watch it in a bar in Sydney . Great result, who next? Pac Man for me...I love watching that guy fight. De Le Hoya? I guess it depends on who wins that scrap.