Thedelldays Posted 9 October, 2012 Share Posted 9 October, 2012 All looks amazing and obvious hugely expensive But how is this going to improve the national team exactly.... Will players learn better skills there than say at arsenal? I see coaches will learn skills there... But with people like Stuart Pearce with the U21s... Will it make a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lloydie Posted 9 October, 2012 Share Posted 9 October, 2012 Hopefully the major impact will be seen in coming generations of players as we see hundreds more english coaches, with better skill sets than our current coaches, being produced each year more than we have ever seen before! and these coaches will be able to help nuture our younger players from grassroots level and upwards. Thats my wishfull thinking of it anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 10 October, 2012 Share Posted 10 October, 2012 ...Uhm not sure if this will work... How did the Germans turn things around in 8 years? NOt be spending 140 mil on a national centre of excellence - They engaged with all clubs including the top sides - helps that many of the clubs like Bayern have ex German internationals as presidents who still have a great affinity for the national side - They set about having a nationally wide coaching system and set exactly to change the style of play to a more exciting attacking style - so the clubs were tasked with coaching those skills from U8 upwards and a style that would mean when they came together, everyone would slot right in. I dont think their currents ide will win anything, but if you ook at what they have in the wings, with Goetze, Draxler (19) Reus (already breaking through) etc, they have some solid continuity. Our problem is not so much the need for a centre of excellence, but of better collaboration between prem clubs and the FA and a decsion to find a style that is coached nationally from grass routes through the leagues - which just does not seem to be our way. The prem is only interested in its own brand, nt teh national side, and teh clubs play their own style, not some predetermined national thing.... and then you have a system/media/manager that tends to pic teh 'best' players and try and play a style in which they can all fit in irrespective of whether that is natural to their game or not.... and we wonder why some often struggle to get up for it or have teh right attitude when playing for their country rather than club... So not sure its the answer to be honest - but if they can decide what they want to play, coach large numbers of new coaches to a higher standard who then transfer that style to all levels, provided it eventually gets into the prem, then who knows, but whilst the prem is just full of self interest, not sure it will make much difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 10 October, 2012 Share Posted 10 October, 2012 Hopefully the major impact will be seen in coming generations of players as we see hundreds more english coaches, with better skill sets than our current coaches, being produced each year more than we have ever seen before! and these coaches will be able to help nuture our younger players from grassroots level and upwards. Thats my wishfull thinking of it anyway! Yep, it's all about getting better coaches at coaching football and being comfortable on the ball. Numbers wise both Spain And Germany have many more coaches but not as many players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 10 October, 2012 Share Posted 10 October, 2012 Yep, it's all about getting better coaches at coaching football and being comfortable on the ball. Numbers wise both Spain And Germany have many more coaches but not as many players. Biggest difference though in numbers who hold UEFA B, A and pro licences - as well as 10s of 1000s more qualified grass roots coaches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 12 October, 2012 Share Posted 12 October, 2012 So, we now have this megacentre for English football talent.Now that we have the facilities, what excuse can we now use , for our failures in 2014 (perhaps too soon for it to have an impact), and 2018 onwards ? Is it the demanding fixture schedule, media pessure/expectation, tough group, well we never win on penalties?.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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