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There are a plethora of different views on this site and just because someone does not agree with someone else does not make them a Skate. Despite the history there is a world class manager living just down the road with Prem, Champions League experience and is out of work. We were even all surprised he was not given the England job

Please grow up children and put the club first.

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There are a plethora of different views on this site and just because someone does not agree with someone else does not make them a Skate. Despite the history there is a world class manager living just down the road with Prem, Champions League experience and is out of work. We were even all surprised he was not given the England job

Please grow up children and put the club first.

 

 

World Class....lol

 

Maybe if you didn't feel the need to start a new thread evertime you feel the need to make a comment, you wouldn't get so much reaction to your terrible threads?

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There are a plethora of different views on this site and just because someone does not agree with someone else does not make them a Skate. Despite the history there is a world class manager living just down the road with Prem, Champions League experience and is out of work. We were even all surprised he was not given the England job

Please grow up children and put the club first.

 

a) Your continued negative threads mentioning sensitive topics within the club (in this case, the saggy one) will put people's backs up and earn you a reputation as a WUM.

 

b) Spending your club into administration for an FA Cup or two does not make you a world class manager, especially with the big flaws in his style like a lack of squad rotation and signing players with huge egos.

 

c) I wasn't surprised that he missed out on the England job, as Hodgson was a much better candidate. If you look past the bullsh!t spouted by Saggy Redcrapp's red-top chums, he was never going to get it as he was far too controversial an appointment at that time for the FA to make, as well as the likelihood that he'd just stick with the same players that failed in the last few major tournaments.

 

d) What I want for my club is stability. I want a manager who's going to stay at the club for 10+ years like a Fergie, Moyes or a Wenger. I'm sick of the revolving door mentality that pervades amongst football fans nowadays when it comes to managers. We've got somebody with the potential to be a fantastic manager here, he's intelligent, he's bringing in new training methods which are revolutionary and he's still a young manager in comparison to the likes of Fergie, Wenger etc who by all accounts should be sitting in their own p!ss in a nursing home, not sitting on the bench taking charge of 2 of the biggest teams in the world. I want the fans and the club to be patient with Nigel, for the greater good. Being a Premier League manager is extremely tough, and this is his biggest job to date, so lets cut him a little slack eh?

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There is no doubt Harry Redknap was a good manager with certain clubs but there are a number of issues you need to take on board.

 

First, he is on “old school” manager and unable to embrace the new culture in football

 

Secondly he does not develop players sufficiently; he buys in experience and relies on that experience rather than his own tactical awareness.

 

He is not into sports science.

 

He would not be able to work with Les Reid who, like it or not, has a big influence at our club

 

He would not support the “Southampton way” which is the bedrock of Cortese’s philosophy.

 

He is and will always be a non starter at SFC

 

A great man manager but a **** poor modern philosophy manager

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Now this will open up the way for a certain poster to trumpet for the return of Glenda. Fergie was one or two games away from the chop 20 odd years ago at UTD not saying Adkins will takes to the hieghts he has taken Utd but IMO Nigel could do with someone with knowledge of the Prem in his backroom staff.

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Now this will open up the way for a certain poster to trumpet for the return of Glenda. Fergie was one or two games away from the chop 20 odd years ago at UTD not saying Adkins will takes to the hieghts he has taken Utd but IMO Nigel could do with someone with knowledge of the Prem in his backroom staff.

 

 

Fergie was just a game away from "retirement" only a couple of years back, can't remember which season it was but they had a really rough patch.

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Ok to humour the OP..

 

Yes we can ignore Redflaps... beciause he is not very good. He believes he is good, and has pals in the media who fawn over him... but for someone once touted as an England manager, his record is pretty crap - 1 trophy. An that won with a squad of international mercenaries they could not afford - Ok Spurs did well, but given the value of that squad and the amount of money spent you would expect it.

 

Does anyone not see the pattern... he comes, he spends, he has some success and then he leaves as the board realise, how much have we spent?

 

The one time he has no money to spend, he fails - at Saints where he had 20 odd games and we were not in the relagtion zone, and with arguably a better overall squad than we have now... yet you advocate having him back to do it again? madness

 

The club has stated it wants to have amodel based on home grown talent that is COACHED to be the best they can. Yes, Nigel is inexperienced at this level, but we also have a squad that is learning the hard way... hopefully tehy will gain what they need an dsurvive, but chnaging strategies so early is daft.

 

...and thats without even mentioning Rosie, the 140+ transfers at West ham in 5 years (10 or so of which ever player for the first team...).... and other associated baggage.

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There are a plethora of different views on this site and just because someone does not agree with someone else does not make them a Skate. Despite the history there is a world class manager living just down the road with Prem, Champions League experience and is out of work. We were even all surprised he was not given the England job

Please grow up children and put the club first.

Even has experience of relegating us, must be ideal for the job. When will people learn that Arry is actually not very good. Even the ****s at the FA could see that, and they are none too bright. I wouldn't be averse to having Joe Jordan back to help out, but as for Saggy Face or his sidekick, no thank you very much indeed if its all the same to you. Even Hoddle would be preferable.

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Ok to humour the OP..

 

Yes we can ignore Redflaps... beciause he is not very good. He believes he is good, and has pals in the media who fawn over him... but for someone once touted as an England manager, his record is pretty crap - 1 trophy. An that won with a squad of international mercenaries they could not afford - Ok Spurs did well, but given the value of that squad and the amount of money spent you would expect it.

 

Does anyone not see the pattern... he comes, he spends, he has some success and then he leaves as the board realise, how much have we spent?

 

The one time he has no money to spend, he fails - at Saints where he had 20 odd games and we were not in the relagtion zone, and with arguably a better overall squad than we have now... yet you advocate having him back to do it again? madness

 

The club has stated it wants to have amodel based on home grown talent that is COACHED to be the best they can. Yes, Nigel is inexperienced at this level, but we also have a squad that is learning the hard way... hopefully tehy will gain what they need an dsurvive, but chnaging strategies so early is daft.

 

...and thats without even mentioning Rosie, the 140+ transfers at West ham in 5 years (10 or so of which ever player for the first team...).... and other associated baggage.

 

Anyone that says Redknapp isn't a good manager is a fool.

 

He took Bournemouth into the second tier for the first time ever. Took West Ham to a fifth placed finish. He took Pompey up as champions, then to a 9th place finish and an FA Cup win and into Europe. He took Spurs into the champions league for the first time ever. He's done well everywhere he's been, the only place he has failed is with us. Take off the Saints tinted glasses for a second and his record is decent. You use his only winning one trophy as a reason to knock him, but in reality how many clubs outside the big guns have won anything in the last 20 years? You say with Spurs you'd expect him to do well, but plenty of other clubs have spent big money to get into the champions league and not made it. martin O'Neill at Villa? A manager some were wetting themselves about us getting a couple of years ago.

 

The bloke may be a helmet but he has a good track record and has had relative success at every club he's been at. You may not like or agree with his methods and the way he does things but they work. Dont forget its not just him that signs players, the clubs owners have to authorise the transfers as well. Give any manager money and they'll spend it.

 

If it was anyone else with that track record other than Redknapp being linked people would be in rapture about him coming here. By the way, that doesn't mean i want him here either, but to say he isnt a good manager is idiotic.

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There are a plethora of different views on this site and just because someone does not agree with someone else does not make them a Skate. Despite the history there is a world class manager living just down the road with Prem, Champions League experience and is out of work. We were even all surprised he was not given the England job

Please grow up children and put the club first.

 

he has been in top tier management for god knows how long and has one fa cup to his name, in which they played ine top side and won one nil with a penalty.

 

and last year he was in a three horse race for the title in march and finished 4th.... and he was absent for most of thier best results of last year through illness/court appearances.

 

all bias aside he is so overrated and should never have been shortlisted for England. he us a good man manager, old skool style, but no idea of tactics. as an example spurs drew 0-0 with villa last year, Danny rose got sent off after an hour or so, and he made one change in the 88th minute. he brought on Scott parker...

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Anyone that says Redknapp isn't a good manager is a fool.

 

He took Bournemouth into the second tier for the first time ever. Took West Ham to a fifth placed finish. He took Pompey up as champions, then to a 9th place finish and an FA Cup win and into Europe. He took Spurs into the champions league for the first time ever. He's done well everywhere he's been, the only place he has failed is with us. Take off the Saints tinted glasses for a second and his record is decent. You use his only winning one trophy as a reason to knock him, but in reality how many clubs outside the big guns have won anything in the last 20 years? You say with Spurs you'd expect him to do well, but plenty of other clubs have spent big money to get into the champions league and not made it. martin O'Neill at Villa? A manager some were wetting themselves about us getting a couple of years ago.

 

The bloke may be a helmet but he has a good track record and has had relative success at every club he's been at. You may not like or agree with his methods and the way he does things but they work. Dont forget its not just him that signs players, the clubs owners have to authorise the transfers as well. Give any manager money and they'll spend it.

 

If it was anyone else with that track record other than Redknapp being linked people would be in rapture about him coming here. By the way, that doesn't mean i want him here either, but to say he isnt a good manager is idiotic.

 

Take away the money he has spent to achieve that and what are you left with though?

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Take away the money he has spent to achieve that and what are you left with though?

 

How many clubs & managers win things without spending money? You still have to spend the money you've got wisely. Just ask Kenny Dalglish.

 

Martin O'Neill, a manager every regards as amazing never finished higher than 6th with all the millions he spent at Villa. Redknapp got Spurs into the champions league.

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How many clubs & managers win things without spending money?

 

Pretty much this.

 

In comparison to other managers, NA has had a hell of a lot to spend over the last 3 years - and we've achieved success through it.

 

Redknapp isn't a bad manager, but he's not the right sort of manager for us.

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Pretty much this.

 

In comparison to other managers, NA has had a hell of a lot to spend over the last 3 years - and we've achieved success through it.

 

Redknapp isn't a bad manager, but he's not the right sort of manager for us.

 

If you actually look at Redknapps spending whilst at Spurs it's not as huge as the myth.

 

Net spends

08/09 = £19.4m

09/10 = minus £1m

10/11 = £17.5m

11/12 = minus £27m

 

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/premiership-transfers/tottenham-hotspur-transfers.html

 

His net whilst at Spurs was actually only around £8m whilst taking them to the champions league. Kind of p*sses on 'the he only succeeds where he has money' myth.

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His net whilst at Spurs was actually only around £8m whilst taking them to the champions league. Kind of p*sses on 'the he only succeeds where he has money' myth.

 

He always seems to end up with huge squads on high salaries with long term deals though. That's what seeems to hurt the clubs he's with / left rather than the actual transfer payments.

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He always seems to end up with huge squads on high salaries with long term deals though. That's what seeems to hurt the clubs he's with / left rather than the actual transfer payments.

 

Hello Barry.

 

Whose fault is that? The manager that identifies the players, or the chairmen tha agree the contacts? How many times did Redknapp mention "Daniel" in his traditional car window wound down, deadline day, leaving training ground interview?

 

And you can only have a squad of 25 in the PL, so huge squads aren't true.

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Hello Barry.

 

Whose fault is that? The manager that identifies the players, or the chairmen tha agree the contacts? How many times did Redknapp mention "Daniel" in his traditional car window wound down, deadline day, leaving training ground interview?.

 

yeah I put as much faith in that as his stated lack of knowledge about his slush fund named after his dog. Never once has he been on a % of the transfer deals

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yeah I put as much faith in that as his stated lack of knowledge about his slush fund named after his dog. Never once has he been on a % of the transfer deals

 

I'm not talking about his morals and ethics. I'm talking about his managrial ability. It seems the only people who think he is a sh*t manager are Saints fans that post on spaz boards.

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With the sheer number of bed wetters on the main board at the moment, WUMs like the OP are having a field day. Shooting fish in a barrel springs to mind.

 

Does it make you feel hard to label people who want Adkins gone as 'bed wetters'? It's like you think you're a better fan, and wanting Adkins kept on is some sort of badge of honour.

 

We all want the club to be successful, it's just that some think it should be done differently to others. The insults do nobody any favours.

 

In reply to the original post, Harry left us in the lurch to go back to his 'spiritual home'. As far as I'm concerned, he can stay there.

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Well said that man

 

a) Your continued negative threads mentioning sensitive topics within the club (in this case, the saggy one) will put people's backs up and earn you a reputation as a WUM.

 

b) Spending your club into administration for an FA Cup or two does not make you a world class manager, especially with the big flaws in his style like a lack of squad rotation and signing players with huge egos.

 

c) I wasn't surprised that he missed out on the England job, as Hodgson was a much better candidate. If you look past the bullsh!t spouted by Saggy Redcrapp's red-top chums, he was never going to get it as he was far too controversial an appointment at that time for the FA to make, as well as the likelihood that he'd just stick with the same players that failed in the last few major tournaments.

 

d) What I want for my club is stability. I want a manager who's going to stay at the club for 10+ years like a Fergie, Moyes or a Wenger. I'm sick of the revolving door mentality that pervades amongst football fans nowadays when it comes to managers. We've got somebody with the potential to be a fantastic manager here, he's intelligent, he's bringing in new training methods which are revolutionary and he's still a young manager in comparison to the likes of Fergie, Wenger etc who by all accounts should be sitting in their own p!ss in a nursing home, not sitting on the bench taking charge of 2 of the biggest teams in the world. I want the fans and the club to be patient with Nigel, for the greater good. Being a Premier League manager is extremely tough, and this is his biggest job to date, so lets cut him a little slack eh?

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Hello Barry.

 

Whose fault is that? The manager that identifies the players, or the chairmen tha agree the contacts? How many times did Redknapp mention "Daniel" in his traditional car window wound down, deadline day, leaving training ground interview?

 

And you can only have a squad of 25 in the PL, so huge squads aren't true.

 

Hello Walt.

 

In all cases it's the Chairman, afterall the buck stops there. Invariably though he has them over a barrel. In every job he's ever had he's complained about the size of his squad - performances are never his fault. The Chairman can say 'no, enough is enough' - seemingly what 'Daniel' ultimately did. But in the meantime the Chairman is left to pander to Arry whose no doubt telling him without these squad additions the team will be relegated / won't make the champions league etc.

 

And the 25 man squad ruling came in when? 2010?

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Hello Walt.

 

In all cases it's the Chairman, afterall the buck stops there. Invariably though he has them over a barrel. In every job he's ever had he's complained about the size of his squad - performances are never his fault. The Chairman can say 'no, enough is enough' - seemingly what 'Daniel' ultimately did. But in the meantime the Chairman is left to pander to Arry whose no doubt telling him without these squad additions the team will be relegated / won't make the champions league etc.

 

And the 25 man squad ruling came in when? 2010?

 

Isnt that the same with any manager though? What sort of a manager would say 'we dont need to improve, what we have is good enough'? Did Mancini do this in the summer? Has Ferguson ever done it? If you give a manager £20m to spend they'll spend it. It's down to the chairman to control it. And as i said above Redknapps net spend at Spurs was only £8m. So not quite the open cheque book the myth suggests.

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Does it make you feel hard to label people who want Adkins gone as 'bed wetters'? It's like you think you're a better fan, and wanting Adkins kept on is some sort of badge of honour.

 

We all want the club to be successful, it's just that some think it should be done differently to others. The insults do nobody any favours.

 

In reply to the original post, Harry left us in the lurch to go back to his 'spiritual home'. As far as I'm concerned, he can stay there.

 

Not really, although there does seem to be a rather hysterical reaction across a number of threads. A little bit too soon for panic imo. I have obviously been reading too many of turkish's posts to come up with "bed wetters" comment.

 

P.S. Don't forget to change the sheets. ;)

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