Thedelldays Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 I now think that we will go down if adkins stays... Sadly.. We are a shambles at the back... You can put down individual errors to poor players.. But our defensive shape is just insane.... Lallana goes walkabout all the time and we always leave players free at set pieces.... That has not changed all season The manager clearly does not know his best 11....And some of his substitutions are (imo) ridiculous... Everyone keeps saying he is going to be an amazing manager and is very intelligent... If so, why are we making the same mistakes over and over... Why does he keep taking off our better players Taking off your talisman and top scorer when winning 1-0 in a game you desperately need to win... Or winning by one goal is sheer lunacy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 I now think that we will go down if adkins stays... Sadly.. We are a shambles at the back... You can put down individual errors to poor players.. But our defensive shape is just insane.... Lallana goes walkabout all the time and we always leave players free at set pieces.... That has not changed all season The manager clearly does not know his best 11....And some of his substitutions are (imo) ridiculous... Everyone keeps saying he is going to be an amazing manager and is very intelligent... If so, why are we making the same mistakes over and over... Why does he keep taking off our better players Taking off your talisman and top scorer when winning 1-0 in a game you desperately need to win... Or winning by one goal is sheer lunacy Reluctantly, I agree. I can't see much of an improvement with Nigel at the helm. I'm convinced the players don't believe in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 Reluctantly, I agree. I can't see much of an improvement with Nigel at the helm. I'm convinced the players don't believe in him. I don't think the players don't believe in him. But, sadly, it looks like he's been blinded by the lights of the Premier League a little bit. I can't and won't question his tactical ability as I've seen him change many a game before with the introduction of subs or changing formation. But he's just not getting it right this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 The thing is Adkins is a really nice guy and in a perfect world things will work out for him here. But the reality is we are on a poor run of results and in a results business your decisions are looked at so more closely then any other league. The next batch of games is huge as we have West Ham, West Brom, Swansea, Spurs and Norwich. Three of those you would guess will be near the relegation zone come the end of the season. If we go through those games with our current ppg then he will be gone. The thing is people need to remember he is inexperienced at this level, he is learning this level and we above all have already learnt that a simple mistake tactically can cost you. What concerns me is that it seems to be the same mistake. It was what happened versus Man Utd. Take off the attacking players who were causing problems and bring on guys and play them out of position in the hope we can shut up shop and keep the score as it is. If we have learnt anything is that as a unit we cannot defend. That is not something we are strong at and isn't our style. We should not be giving up our strengths to play to our weaknesses. Chaplow is a good lad but in the PL he is no winger. Guly doesn't have the same ability as Lambert and cannot hold the ball and defend. Adkins made similar changes against man Utd and it cost us. Today however was slightly different in that first half we SHOULD have scored more goals. We didn't. That isn't the managers fault. But what is his fault is the tactical changes. I still think he will come good. We have such a long season to go and if you can say anything about Nige is that he seems football obsessed to the point he will go over every mistake a billion times over. He will analyse everything in such detail. As I said before regardless of results he deserves at bare minimum until xmas even if we are 10 points adrift at the bottom. If your honest and look at the games as a whole we have played some amazing football. The best we have possibly seen here. We are a young team and we are learning. In Adkins we trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 I don't think the players don't believe in him. But, sadly, it looks like he's been blinded by the lights of the Premier League a little bit. I can't and won't question his tactical ability as I've seen him change many a game before with the introduction of subs or changing formation. But he's just not getting it right this season. Totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Dunlop Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 What total twaddle, is there a thread for what a complete and utter **** up the government made of the rail network on this site....erm no This was never gonna be a walk in the park and here you are all are debating about how someone ****'ed up supposedly FFS get a grip, we have jumped up 2 divisions and this will be a tough season just to survive at this level, Adkins does what he thinks is right if he makes mistakes he will pay for it, when he gets it right you will stop bleating. Keep the faith and move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 What total twaddle, is there a thread for what a complete and utter **** up the government made of the rail network on this site....erm no Erm, yes. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?40422-Rail-franchise-debacle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Dunlop Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 Erm, yes. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?40422-Rail-franchise-debacle Humble pie now eaten Point still stands why the **** are people questioning decisions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 Humble pie now eaten Point still stands why the **** are people questioning decisions Because it is a football message board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 Humble pie now eaten Point still stands why the **** are people questioning decisions Because we aren't compliant non entities. The same reason we are questioning funding streams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reggie Dunlop Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 Oh point taken, will crawl back in to the hole I crawled out of......c'mon Nigel time to go. 3rd post over and out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 As Clarke said would be interesting to see who people think would be a better replacement? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 As Clarke said would be interesting to see who people think would be a better replacement? No point mentioning as they would get dismissed straight away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 No point mentioning as they would get dismissed straight away True. There are however a fair few guys out there who I think could do a better job but it is hard to tell if it is realistic or not. Like remember when we were in league one and rumours of Pardew had started to surface. People said he wouldn't drop to league one. Would someone like Rafa come here? Would someone like Ranieri come here? Either of those guys have more top flight experience then Nige but how realistic is it that someone like that would come here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 True. There are however a fair few guys out there who I think could do a better job but it is hard to tell if it is realistic or not. Like remember when we were in league one and rumours of Pardew had started to surface. People said he wouldn't drop to league one. Would someone like Rafa come here? Would someone like Ranieri come here? Either of those guys have more top flight experience then Nige but how realistic is it that someone like that would come here? No he has earned the right to manage us in the Prem but....FFS today was just nuts and surrendering us going forward with 30 minutes left was nuts. I can half understand both though but it was only 1-0 and loads of time left if he had done it with 10/15 mins left ok acceptable but I would still have put on Mayuka up front. to get them turned facing their goal. I am not sure we have the money to pay him off anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 7 October, 2012 Share Posted 7 October, 2012 I now think that we will go down if adkins stays... Sadly.. We are a shambles at the back... You can put down individual errors to poor players.. But our defensive shape is just insane.... Lallana goes walkabout all the time and we always leave players free at set pieces.... That has not changed all season The manager clearly does not know his best 11....And some of his substitutions are (imo) ridiculous... Everyone keeps saying he is going to be an amazing manager and is very intelligent... If so, why are we making the same mistakes over and over... Why does he keep taking off our better players Taking off your talisman and top scorer when winning 1-0 in a game you desperately need to win... Or winning by one goal is sheer lunacy If you're so sure we will go down with Adkins, why did you say no to sacking him in the other thread? And I believe that he does know his best 11. Clearly unable to put them out today. He does seem a little pre-occupied in trying to make us fit around the opposition though rather than just letting sides worry about our strengths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 It's not just the subs he makes which are costing us, this season has been a string of errors from him. Lallana as captain is a nice sentimental touch, but detrimental to the team. After fulhams 2nd he was just stood with his hands on his hips looking unimpressed. No motivation and no communication. We don't have an on pitch leader and it shows Another thing is, even last year, our defence looked unorganised and dis-jointed. It's still the same. Adkins either hasn't seem this, or has failed to do anything about it. I don't know which is worse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 If you're so sure we will go down with Adkins, why did you say no to sacking him in the other thread? And I believe that he does know his best 11. Clearly unable to put them out today. He does seem a little pre-occupied in trying to make us fit around the opposition though rather than just letting sides worry about our strengths. I said no in the other thread as I really hope I am wrong and want the club to give him a decent chance.. A decent chance for me is 10-12 games But we are making the same mistakes over and over at the mo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 I now think that we will go down if adkins stays... Sadly.. We are a shambles at the back... You can put down individual errors to poor players.. But our defensive shape is just insane.... The manager clearly does not know his best 11....And some of his substitutions are (imo) ridiculous... congratulations on your 30,000 th post btw..........wish I had so much spare time ...... However, dell days .........surely having to play our 2nd choice RB ...and then having him injured after 8 mins. might have had something to do with that ?....... I thought Yoshida did a half decent job at RB, whilst covering the centre, too. I think the manager does know his best 11....but three of them were on the injured list already....and which substitutions would you have made instead?.....given a second look at the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 I think Adkins has been brainwashed into the same mindset as all the other Managers ie "There are subs on the bench, so, circa 70 mins, must bring some on" WHY ??? If it aint broke, don't fix it As the statistics show, we have "lost" 11 points due to Adkins STUPID substitution policy. I for one am sick of it He is NOT learning from his mistakes and I would be amazed if Cortese has not already drawn up his short list for a replacement This time it will be a foreign Manager IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 we have "lost" 11 points due to Adkins STUPID substitution policy. I for one am sick of it :rolleyes::rolleyes: No we have lost 11 points due to poor defensive errors, oh and the fact that Everton, Man Utd, and Man City are all better than us. Nothing to do with substitutions, the substitutions yesterday were all sensible, even more so considering what we had available. I also see everyone has conveniently forgot his substitutions and changes against City that got us into a winning position away at the league leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 :rolleyes::rolleyes: No we have lost 11 points due to poor defensive errors, oh and the fact that Everton, Man Utd, and Man City are all better than us. Nothing to do with substitutions, the substitutions yesterday were all sensible, even more so considering what we had available. I also see everyone has conveniently forgot his substitutions and changes against City that got us into a winning position away at the league leaders. Or his half time change against Villa where taking Fox off and putting Clyne out left changed the game for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 I think Adkins has been brainwashed into the same mindset as all the other Managers ie "There are subs on the bench, so, circa 70 mins, must bring some on" WHY ??? If it aint broke, don't fix it As the statistics show, we have "lost" 11 points due to Adkins STUPID substitution policy. I for one am sick of it He is NOT learning from his mistakes and I would be amazed if Cortese has not already drawn up his short list for a replacement This time it will be a foreign Manager IMHO Now I would affirm that we have "lost" 11 points due to our suicidal summer recruitment policy. Buying go faster stripes instead of new brake pads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 :rolleyes::rolleyes: No we have lost 11 points due to poor defensive errors, oh and the fact that Everton, Man Utd, and Man City are all better than us. Nothing to do with substitutions, the substitutions yesterday were all sensible, even more so considering what we had available. I also see everyone has conveniently forgot his substitutions and changes against City that got us into a winning position away at the league leaders. OK, does anyone know how many goals we have conceded AFTER substitutions have been made ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 OK, does anyone know how many goals we have conceded AFTER substitutions have been made ?? What about Man City away? Or Villa at home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 OK, does anyone know how many goals we have conceded AFTER substitutions have been made ?? No. But I'm sure if you look at the number of goals in general which are conceded in the last 20 mins in the prem, it would be significant. I can tell you though that we have SCORED 7 goals after subs have been made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 No. But I'm sure if you look at the number of goals in general which are conceded in the last 20 mins in the prem, it would be significant. I can tell you though that we have SCORED 7 goals after subs have been made. OK, how many games have we been winning, then conceded goals, to lose the match, AFTER substitutions having been made ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 OK, how many games have we been winning, then conceded goals, to lose the match, AFTER substitutions having been made ? It's not as black and white as that is it. You have to factor in the quality of the opposition, the subs the other teams have made, injuries and the condition of the players and the flow of play prior to the subs being made. Most manager make changes in every game. Lots of goals are scored after subs have been made, typically from 70 mins onwards. It's very simplistic to blame goals conceded on the subs alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 The trouble is that we probably have 12 or 13 players who can say that they are somewhere around PL standard. When they aren't available or have to be subbed then what replaces them aren't up to the job. The manager's hands are tied by the quality of the players he has available to him. On Sunday without Cork(and we don't yet know how he's going to shape up in the PL) ,Clyne and Ramirez we were down to the bare bones. We have a nominal group of 24 I think, including 3 keepers, when you take out the dross who won't get a PL start at any time soon and the injured there's just nothing left. In my humble opinion we counted on the young players coming through the system to supplement the group but up until now we've only seen JWP in PL action and I personnally don't think he's anywhere near the required level yet. I keep hearing talk of Stephens,Shaw and a host of other young hopefuls...I'm still waiting to see one of these marvels on the pitch in the PL. Once again just my opinion but tha academy products have lured us into a false recruitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 It's not as black and white as that is it. You have to factor in the quality of the opposition, the subs the other teams have made, injuries and the condition of the players and the flow of play prior to the subs being made. Most manager make changes in every game. Lots of goals are scored after subs have been made, typically from 70 mins onwards. It's very simplistic to blame goals conceded on the subs alone. I mostly agree My main gripe is that Adkins seems to make substitutions,( normally at the same point in the match), simply because they are on the bench If the team is losing, then fine, try to change the tactics, but I honestly think he seems to "wrest defeat from the jaws of victory" far many times for my liking From my playing days, I can assure you that if we were winning, then the adrenalin of that was more than enough to allow me to play the full 90 mins. The last thing on my mind was being subbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 The system on Saturday was actually very good, the problem was some of the players in the system were out of position or were not quite good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 Or his half time change against Villa where taking Fox off and putting Clyne out left changed the game for us. spot on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 The manager clearly does not know his best 11....And some of his substitutions are (imo) ridiculous... ....Why does he keep taking off our better players Taking off your talisman and top scorer when winning 1-0 in a game you desperately need to win... Or winning by one goal is sheer lunacy Regards your first point about not knowing his best 11, I really don't see how you can judge that when he hasn't at any point so far this season had a fully fit squad to choose from. Secondly, it's all very well claiming his subs are costing us games but the only one I can think of where this can be the case is Man U. I didn't see many people complaining about his changes in the Villa game. You and others are complaining about him taking off our best player, but SRL was far from that yesterday - he was having a poor game by his standards and Adkins decided that a change was necessary, and although I have been a critic of his in the past I thought Guly was very effective when he came on and I actually agree with NA's decision there. With regards Puncheon... Again, he was lively but he was going nowhere. He showed a bit of pace at times but his control and first touch were poor and he was constantly giving away possession and leaving Yoshida exposed at RB. Again, I totally agree with NA's decision to replace him with Chappers who was more effective both in getting forward and in tracking back. Nigel's hand was forced with the early loss of Fraser and the need to put his 1st choice CB to a position he clearly isn't comfortable in, and replacing him at CB with his 3rd choice. Had that not happened it would have been a different game, so I really cannot see how people can state with such authority that it was Adkins' tactics that cost us the win. If I had to choose just one aspect of yesterday's game that was the primary reason for us not winning it was the failure to take our chances in the 1st half whgen we were in command of the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 Lambert having a poor game is still a huge goal threat at home He is also our 2nd best defender and I believe has the most assists for chances (even the missed ones) Having a 70% Lambert is still better than most of our team... To take your main man off was criminal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 Lambert having a poor game is still a huge goal threat at home He is also our 2nd best defender and I believe has the most assists for chances (even the missed ones) Having a 70% Lambert is still better than most of our team... To take your main man off was criminal And if he had stayed on and we had lost, what then? Would you now be complaining that Nigel didn't make any changes that might have won it for us? It's all ifs, buts and maybes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 And if he had stayed on and we had lost, what then? Would you now be complaining that Nigel didn't make any changes that might have won it for us? It's all ifs, buts and maybes. We will never know will we... But to take your best player... Your best assister.. One of the countries top scorers... Your 2nd best defender and your hero, talisman, the man who scored big goals in big games.... To take him off was stupid..... In my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 And if he had stayed on and we had lost, what then? Would you now be complaining that Nigel didn't make any changes that might have won it for us? It's all ifs, buts and maybes. Yep, that's football for you! But for all the debate being made about the substitutions, if you actually watch the game back - they helped us change the tide of the game slightly, and Guly was excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 Yep, that's football for you! But for all the debate being made about the substitutions, if you actually watch the game back - they helped us change the tide of the game slightly, and Guly was excellent. Guly was alright... Not one of our players was excellent really.... Apart from Fonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 I love the way people trot out the bo llo x from the press like it's fact. We've thrown away winning positions... Sure. Against Man Citeh we actually came from a losing position to lose, as we did against United. We have taken the lead and lost ONE game. ONE fecking game where we went ahead first and lost. No credit for the fightbacks in either case I notice - or against Fulham - for those who think the players aren't playing for their manager... Oh and by the way, that's football. Welcome to the real world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 We will never know will we... But to take your best player... Your best assister.. One of the countries top scorers... Your 2nd best defender and your hero, talisman, the man who scored big goals in big games.... To take him off was stupid..... In my opinion And my opinion too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 We will never know will we... But to take your best player... Your best assister.. One of the countries top scorers... Your 2nd best defender and your hero, talisman, the man who scored big goals in big games.... To take him off was stupid..... In my opinion No player should be immune to be subbed if they are having a poor game. It's a dangerous thing to do and I can't think of any other player in the prem who wouldn't be replaced if they were not having a good game and fading fast. Maybe Lambert was carrying a slight knock or his fitness in training was not good enough to warrent playing the whole game. ' Advocating that Lambert stays on the pitch no matter what is a much poorer philosophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 I mostly agree My main gripe is that Adkins seems to make substitutions,( normally at the same point in the match), simply because they are on the bench If the team is losing, then fine, try to change the tactics, but I honestly think he seems to "wrest defeat from the jaws of victory" far many times for my liking From my playing days, I can assure you that if we were winning, then the adrenalin of that was more than enough to allow me to play the full 90 mins. The last thing on my mind was being subbed This goes back more than one season. Home to Pompey comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 Regards your first point about not knowing his best 11, I really don't see how you can judge that when he hasn't at any point so far this season had a fully fit squad to choose from. Secondly, it's all very well claiming his subs are costing us games but the only one I can think of where this can be the case is Man U. I didn't see many people complaining about his changes in the Villa game. You and others are complaining about him taking off our best player, but SRL was far from that yesterday - he was having a poor game by his standards and Adkins decided that a change was necessary, and although I have been a critic of his in the past I thought Guly was very effective when he came on and I actually agree with NA's decision there. With regards Puncheon... Again, he was lively but he was going nowhere. He showed a bit of pace at times but his control and first touch were poor and he was constantly giving away possession and leaving Yoshida exposed at RB. Again, I totally agree with NA's decision to replace him with Chappers who was more effective both in getting forward and in tracking back. Nigel's hand was forced with the early loss of Fraser and the need to put his 1st choice CB to a position he clearly isn't comfortable in, and replacing him at CB with his 3rd choice. Had that not happened it would have been a different game, so I really cannot see how people can state with such authority that it was Adkins' tactics that cost us the win. If I had to choose just one aspect of yesterday's game that was the primary reason for us not winning it was the failure to take our chances in the 1st half whgen we were in command of the match. Agree with every point you make. As you say, we had several fairly gilt-edged chances in the first half. I put it at an additional 5 on top of the goal we scored. Had we scored two or three of them, then the tone of this debate would have been very different. Is it Adkins' fault that players failed to capitalise on such opportunities to win a game? Had Cork, Ramirez and Clyne been available, I'm pretty confident that we would have won comprehensively, even if the counter argument was used that Fulham might also have had Berbatov available to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 8 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 8 October, 2012 No player should be immune to be subbed if they are having a poor game. It's a dangerous thing to do and I can't think of any other player in the prem who wouldn't be replaced if they were not having a good game and fading fast. Maybe Lambert was carrying a slight knock or his fitness in training was not good enough to warrent playing the whole game. ' Advocating that Lambert stays on the pitch no matter what is a much poorer philosophy. Lambert wasn't playing that poorly though, and he was out of position. J Rod on the other hand was pretty poor. Why not put Lambert up front in his position, and then put Guly on the left. Just trying to shoehorn a £7m player who isn't Prem quality yet into the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 Lambert wasn't playing that poorly though, and he was out of position. J Rod on the other hand was pretty poor. Why not put Lambert up front in his position, and then put Guly on the left. Just trying to shoehorn a £7m player who isn't Prem quality yet into the lineup. As I said, maybe Lambert was carrying a slight knock or his training stats from the previous week weren't good enough for him to finish the game. Plus at 1-0 up, Adkins thought we needed to press Fulham harder than we were and they were playing from the back. Jrod is much more effective at doing this than Lambert and is a goal scorer although maybe slightly low on confidence at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 8 October, 2012 Share Posted 8 October, 2012 I now think that we will go down if adkins stays... Sadly.. We are a shambles at the back... You can put down individual errors to poor players.. But our defensive shape is just insane.... Lallana goes walkabout all the time and we always leave players free at set pieces.... That has not changed all season The manager clearly does not know his best 11....And some of his substitutions are (imo) ridiculous... Everyone keeps saying he is going to be an amazing manager and is very intelligent... If so, why are we making the same mistakes over and over... Why does he keep taking off our better players Taking off your talisman and top scorer when winning 1-0 in a game you desperately need to win... Or winning by one goal is sheer lunacy It's ludicrous to blame NA substitutions for the lack of wins this season. RL did not play well yesterday and NA substitutions were his decision. He is the manager.yesterday's results was hampered by injuriies including FR on the pitch on the day You should support the manager till the fixtures are balanced up. We are in the premiership all the games are tough. We need time to adjust and for the injured players to come back If you don't like the manager who would you suggest take his place all the usual old crap. NA has demonstrated his ability in previous seasons he is potentially the best manager we have had in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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