Saint Charlie Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 I thought Richardson was very poor on Saturday, I'd rather have Fox back in there I think, Me too. Fox is frustrating and has been poor this season defensively, but I think he has the ability to do ok if he wises up, and is a good passer usually. Richardson is a decent Championship player but not good enough and never will be, at this level. Would rather Clyne went back to the right and Fox or Shaw come in.
Cheese on Toast Posted 1 October, 2012 Author Posted 1 October, 2012 Why do you rate Chaplow over JWP?? JWP is good on the ball, can pass it and move about the pitch in decent ways. Chaplow is just short and bald with poor positioning and an average touch. Don't really see why Chaplow would get a start on Sunday if JWP is fit I don't really know, just every time I see JWP, he just looks out of his depth, he's getting better so I'm sure in not too long he'll be a guaranteed starter
doddisalegend Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Richardson was pretty woeful I thought. Too slow on the ball and often gave it away. Totally let Jelavic go for the third goal. He isn't a prem player. Neither is half our team we have to go with the best we've got even if the best ain't good enough.
Aura Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Neither is half our team we have to go with the best we've got even if the best ain't good enough. Yup i would be giving Shaw a go soon though tbh if Frazer or Fox continue there form of being rubbish.
Sour Mash Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Yup i would be giving Shaw a go soon though tbh if Frazer or Fox continue there form of being rubbish. Personally I don't think Shaw is ready for the Prem. I'd still rather have Fox.
Cheese on Toast Posted 1 October, 2012 Author Posted 1 October, 2012 Personally I don't think Shaw is ready for the Prem. I'd still rather have Fox. I'd rather have Arthur Lallana than Fox
david in sweden Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 At risk of being controversial, I want to see Chaplow start. Without Morgan, we need a battling, tough, dare I say 'dirty' midfielder who will run, chase and fight for the ball for 90-minutes. We have pretty players who can do attractive things, we have players who can do the simple things well, but we lack bite in midfield, we lack a physical presence who will charge at the opposition just to win the ball. Usch ! (naughty words).......you mean tough and uncompromising ...... sorry... Jimmy Case retired years ago ...
pingwing Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 I don't really know, just every time I see JWP, he just looks out of his depth, he's getting better so I'm sure in not too long he'll be a guaranteed starter He's only starting due to the lack of Cork and Schniderlin, he'll get better with game time, best way for him to get the confidence up. Sticking an average Chaplow in his place probably will do more harm than good in my view.
Saint-Armstrong Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 We've been given Clattenburg to officiate this one.
doddisalegend Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Draws for other teams are keeping us out of the relegation zone....its all about the wins! Well naturally I'd like saints to win every game...there's just a big difference between what I'd like and what I think saints will actually get. Fulham are a decent side.
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Usch ! (naughty words).......you mean tough and uncompromising ...... sorry... Jimmy Case retired years ago ... But the OP has a point, foulwise Morgan is our hatchet man, think he's run up about 9 or 10 fouls in his 5 games this season, none of them particularly nasty no doubt but he puts himself about, lets the opposition know he's there and not a featherweight pansy. Davis must have committed just 2 or 3 fouls so far and I don't think JWP has any at all on the counter. The ability to foul well should not be underestimated, especially if you can do it with just 1 yellow in 5 games.
SuperMikey Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 If we are going to be bringing in 1 more free transfer then LB is definitely the priority.
Cheese on Toast Posted 1 October, 2012 Author Posted 1 October, 2012 If we are going to be bringing in 1 more free transfer then LB is definitely the priority.
Thedelldays Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 we have such a huge chance at the weekend to put a couple of points between us and the bottom QPR away to WBA Norwich away to chelsea Wigan home to everton Villa away to Spurs we have to win this
VectisSaint Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 We've been given Clattenburg to officiate this one. Mark "10 yellow cards and 1 red" Clattenburg. Could be an interesting afternoon on Sunday.
Nexstar Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Mark "10 yellow cards and 1 red" Clattenburg. Could be an interesting afternoon on Sunday. More like West Ham "don't know how to tackle" United.
Matthew Le God Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Mark "10 yellow cards and 1 red" Clattenburg. Could be an interesting afternoon on Sunday. That is harsh, he had no option with pretty much all of them other than give them a card.
NickG Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 we have such a huge chance at the weekend to put a couple of points between us and the bottom QPR away to WBA Norwich away to chelsea Wigan home to everton Villa away to Spurs we have to win this lost count of how many of your must win games we lost in our two promotion seasons!
redder freak Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 I worry that JWP is more of an attacking midfielder (like Lallana), when what we really need is another defensive midfielder.
SuperMikey Posted 1 October, 2012 Posted 1 October, 2012 Cheers Dune. Notice it didn't take you long to crawl back on here, did the nasty boys on the other forums tease you or do you just have literally nothing else to do with your time?
VectisSaint Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 That is harsh, he had no option with pretty much all of them other than give them a card. Why is it harsh? Just a fact. Saying that 11 cards would tend to indicate a referee who has lost control somewhat.
Ken Tone Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Personally I don't think Shaw is ready for the Prem. I'd still rather have Fox. It appears that Nigel prefers Reeves to both Shaw and Fox
kpturner Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 It appears that Nigel prefers Reeves to both Shaw and FoxAt left back???
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Early in his career Hooiveld was a left back. An emergency option maybe? Extra height at the back too.
Sour Mash Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 It appears that Nigel prefers Reeves to both Shaw and Fox Well we really don't know that yet. I think Adkins would like Reeves to be a back-up option there, but I'm expecting Fox to be back there for the Fulham game. I've never been a huge fan of Fox since we signed him, however I think he is getting a bit of a raw deal this year. Were we all that better defensively without him against Everton? Think his big problem at the moment is he's lost confidence, not easy to get that back though.
Saint Charlie Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Well we really don't know that yet. I think Adkins would like Reeves to be a back-up option there, but I'm expecting Fox to be back there for the Fulham game. I've never been a huge fan of Fox since we signed him, however I think he is getting a bit of a raw deal this year. Were we all that better defensively without him against Everton? Think his big problem at the moment is he's lost confidence, not easy to get that back though. Fox has the ability - he just needs to concentrate more defensively.
Ken Tone Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 At left back??? Well he brought him on for Clyne at Everton... and he started his career as a LB, even if he has converted to more of a midfielder lately.
Cabrone Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 This is going to be another tough game and for me a point would be par for the course. If he's fit I'd put Boruc in goal, this is a game he could earn us a point or three.
tajjuk Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 I think Fulham are the kind of team that will suit us at home, they don't travel that well, they aren't great defensively and like us are far more suited to attacking/passing football. They also don't have any powerhouses bar Hangeland, especially in midfield. Not sure the answer to our lightweight midfield is Chaplow, what with him being 5 ft 9 in and skinny. He also didn't spend much time in central midfield even in the championship. IF he's going to play anywhere it's instead of Puncheon, he might not offer as much going forward but would be a lot more disciplined defensively, especially to help counter Riise going forward. Would like to see Boruc come in, think he's the best keeper we have and his experience and leadership will help the back four. Yoshida needs to keep playing CB, I think Fox will come in because he's the best we have for LB. Adkins just needs to give him strict instructions to defend more.
Charlie Wayman Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 freidel plays for spurs.... just saying Thanks for that. Schwarzer of course but no idea how to spell his name! he's even more frightening than Brad
Charlie Wayman Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Richardson was pretty woeful I thought. Too slow on the ball and often gave it away. Totally let Jelavic go for the third goal. He isn't a prem player. Crikey, Kelvin Davies really has fallen from grace in your eyes? I think he'll start at home on Saturday an no way will Chaps get the nod over JWP. He hasn't figured in six games so far so will not be match fit and at best will come on for 15 minutes towards the end.
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Tough game, a lot of respect for Fulham. but if we play to our best we should have enough at home. 3-1 or 2-1. Badly need the 3 points.
Sour Mash Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Crikey, Kelvin Davies really has fallen from grace in your eyes? I think he'll start at home on Saturday an no way will Chaps get the nod over JWP. He hasn't figured in six games so far so will not be match fit and at best will come on for 15 minutes towards the end. Well Chaplow should certainly be match fit, due to his involvement in the League Cup. But you're right, he won't start ahead of JWP, as he's not a very good CM.
ManorHouseSaint Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 I rate Reeves as a footballer, and I thought he didn't look out of place at all in his cameo on Saturday. Every time I have seen him play he has performed well (both offensively and defensively). I would be more than happy for him to play on Saturday at left back with Clyne returning to right back.
Saint Garrett Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Big problem with Reeves is that he is so small, so any manager is going to target that as a weakness.
stanthemanfairoak Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 I thought Richardson was very poor on Saturday, I'd rather have Fox back in there I think,got to drop him he was dire, far to slow.
Norm Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 It appears that Nigel prefers Reeves to both Shaw and Fox Ken, is that your opinion or a fact known to you?
Saint Lindford Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Why is it harsh? Just a fact. Saying that 11 cards would tend to indicate a referee who has lost control somewhat. Nope he did not lose control, players time wasting, kicking the ball away, taking off their shirt, gobbing off at the referee, pulling back an opponent and then there were the fouls. So no, Clattenburg did well I thought with a bunch of idiots purporting to be professional footballers
Saint Charlie Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Ken, is that your opinion or a fact known to you? Its a ludicrous assumption based on one sub appearance. In fact, Adkins likes him so much that he didn't train with the first team in pre season despite doing so last year for msot of the season. Yesterday in the U21s Shaw played LB. If Reeves was going to come into the team on Sunday he would have played there. If any young player is at LB it would be Shaw not Reeves.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Why is it harsh? Just a fact. Saying that 11 cards would tend to indicate a referee who has lost control somewhat. He didn't lose control, the players were committing tackles that were clear yellow cards and West Ham's players were also time wasting. He had little choice other than to book them.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 It appears that Nigel prefers Reeves to both Shaw and Fox Ken, is that your opinion or a fact known to you? Yesterday's under 21 game was Shaw's return to football after an illness in which hospitalised him. Reeves being picked over Shaw for the Everton game doesn't mean Adkins prefers Reeves to Shaw.
Ken Tone Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Yesterday's under 21 game was Shaw's return to football after an illness in which hospitalised him. Reeves being picked over Shaw for the Everton game doesn't mean Adkins prefers Reeves to Shaw. Blimey! All I was doing was pointing out that Adkins had chosen to bring on Reeves as sub at Everton instead of using Fox or Shaw ..... Didn't realise I was going to start a major controversy !
egg Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 Yesterday's under 21 game was Shaw's return to football after an illness in which hospitalised him. Reeves being picked over Shaw for the Everton game doesn't mean Adkins prefers Reeves to Shaw. True, but none of us know who NA prefers in that position. Everton certainly seemed like an audition for Reeves and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the side on Sunday. Does anyone know if Shaw played the full 90 for the ressies yesterday, and if not who else played there?
THEVMAN Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 It could have been far worse,their was talk that NA was going to use Seabourne at left back but he cryed off injured.
trousers Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 True, but none of us know who NA prefers in that position. Everton certainly seemed like an audition for Reeves and I wouldn't be surprised to see him in the side on Sunday. Does anyone know if Shaw played the full 90 for the ressies yesterday?/QUOTE] Yep... @Luke_shaw3: Shame about the score today but at least I got 90 minutes under my belt!
VectisSaint Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 He didn't lose control, the players were committing tackles that were clear yellow cards and West Ham's players were also time wasting. He had little choice other than to book them. In other words then he was not in control. Agood ref would have clamped down on this early on. Still it really isn't too important, a light hearted remark taken out of context by the official rep of the referees union.
Matthew Le God Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 In other words then he was not in control. A good ref would have clamped down on this early on. How can a ref "clamp down" on players and stop them committing fouls or timewasting? They committed yellow card offences, he gave them yellow cards. Simple.
syd_barrett_saint Posted 2 October, 2012 Posted 2 October, 2012 How can a ref "clamp down" on players and stop them committing fouls or timewasting? They committed yellow card offences, he gave them yellow cards. Simple. What's it like living in a black and white world?
niceandfriendly Posted 3 October, 2012 Posted 3 October, 2012 What's it like living in a black and white world? he's right though. not always, but, in this case he certainly is.
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