Cheese on Toast Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 we're going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Think Berbatov misses the game which is a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Think Berbatov misses the game which is a bonus. That is a big bonus but why? Suspended? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 How long's Morgan out for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 That is a big bonus but why? Suspended? He's injured and was missing yesterday, but it's still a chance he could return for Sunday according to Jol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 How long's Morgan out for? Adkins suggested that it's not as bad as Corks knee injury (not sure what that says about the seriousness of Corks injury..!), but it's not a good one and he is touch and go for Sunday. That's probably a little optimistic, as he's done his medial ligament he's out for probably 3/4 weeks at minimum. Luckily we have an international break during that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the stain Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 Berbatov will be out - yesterday they said he was out for 10-14 days, meaning he will miss the game. The only issue will be if Petric wants to prove a point and put in a performance to get his place back permanently. He scored yesterday, but wasn't meant to be that good. Cork and Morgan will both be out, which is problematic. However, I think we'll win, 2-1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericofarabia Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 Naffed off that this was moved for Sky - could have seen it on Sat down the pub but am working Sunday afternoon. Bah humbug. Wouldn't be surprised at a performance like the last time we played them on Sky, 2 down and then win 4-2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 Berbatov will be out - yesterday they said he was out for 10-14 days, meaning he will miss the game. The only issue will be if Petric wants to prove a point and put in a performance to get his place back permanently. He scored yesterday, but wasn't meant to be that good. Cork and Morgan will both be out, which is problematic. However, I think we'll win, 2-1. I like petric, looks a very busy player who has an eye for goal. Risse down the left is dangerous too, in fact they're not a bad team. Much, much better than Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 Fulham are traditionally good at home but tend to struggle on their travels, so we need to take the game to them from the off. Berbatov missing is a boost for us. They're still a very decent Premier League side though. Watched Fulham against West Ham the other week and they really struggled to deal with the long balls up to Carroll, maybe we should switch the way we play and try to hit Lambo as much as possible and play off him. Think there will be goals in this one, going for a 3-2 Saints win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 They are 7th....If we don't win will that be the reason? I think we will.... But if course we will have to score at least two to do so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 Adkins has spoken about our home form, he knows we have to pick up points at SMS. Fulham are a good team but they have weaknesses too. Will be interesting to see if Gazza keeps his place or if Boruc comes in after a full week of training with the lads. ---------------------GAZZA------------------ FRAZER------MAYA-----JOS------CLYNE ----------------DAVIS-----JWP-------------- PUNCH----------RAMIREZ----LALLANA --------------------LAMBERT---------------- Subs: Boruc, Fox, Fonte, Chaplow, Reeves, Mayuka, Rodriguez. The sooner we get Morgan Schneiderlin back, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 Boruc Richardson Fonte Yoshida Clyne Davis Chaplow Punch Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs Gazza Jos Jwp Mayuka. Rodriguez Fox. Guly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 - - - - - - - - Boruc Frazer - - Yoshi - - Jos - - Clyne - - - - Davis - - - Chaplow - - - Puncheon - - Gaston - - - Lallana - - - - - - - Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 - - - - - - - - Boruc Frazer - - Yoshi - - Jos - - Clyne - - - - Davis - - - Chaplow - - - Puncheon - - Gaston - - - Lallana - - - - - - - Lambert Didn't Clyne go off with an injury yesterday or was it just tactical; If he's out for any time along with Morgan and Corky we're really in the crapper, unless of course you rate Fox in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 IMO he has to, the back four need confidence and I think that HIS experience will show behind the Back Four,,,,,,the thing is that KD may find he is not even on the bench, when did that happen last ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEVMAN Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 IMO he has to, the back four need confidence and I think that HIS experience will show behind the Back Four,,,,,,the thing is that KD may find he is not even on the bench, when did that happen last ??? Im afraid as someone else said on this subject,i dont think it will make a blind bit of difference,its still the same back four and unless he's superman their wont be much change.One thing i did notice with the defence was the backing off they were doing just outside our own box,it was suicidal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 (edited) Still very confident we will sort out the closing down in the right area.. Punch back in ..Boruc will be in goal.. Expect 3-1 or even 4-1 win... We will beat Fulham:D With Corky and Morgan out...my team v Fulham.. Boruc Clyne Fonte Jos Yoshida JWP Davis Punch Ramirez Lallana Lambert Subs.. Gazza, J Rod, Richardson, Reeves, Chappers, Lee, Mayuka.. Assuming Lee can return.....if not Seaborne.. Edited 30 September, 2012 by ottery st mary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 Im afraid as someone else said on this subject,i dont think it will make a blind bit of difference,its still the same back four and unless he's superman their wont be much change.One thing i did notice with the defence was the backing off they were doing just outside our own box,it was suicidal Yep agree, not to mention that opposing players crossing the ball aren't being closed down, are being left unmarked both in the box and the edge of and that our zonal marking is a shambles. Boruc in goal is not going to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Jonny Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 We'll win this one, got a good feeling :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 it is on sky, and Fulham are in decent form, without Schneiderlin in midfield i think we will struggle, going to go for 2-2 draw, we will definitely concede. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRM Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 also with it being a sunday 1.30 kick off, on tv, this will probably be our smallest home league crowd of the season, fulham are bringing a few down and have sold over 1800 already, but can see a lot of people who pick and choose their games giving it a miss and saving for a game that isn't on the box. having said that it is another 3 weeks until the next home game v Spurs so maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 30 September, 2012 Share Posted 30 September, 2012 At risk of being controversial, I want to see Chaplow start. Without Morgan, we need a battling, tough, dare I say 'dirty' midfielder who will run, chase and fight for the ball for 90-minutes. We have pretty players who can do attractive things, we have players who can do the simple things well, but we lack bite in midfield, we lack a physical presence who will charge at the opposition just to win the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 We'll win this one, got a good feeling :-) We'll need to as well, if we lose this one I get the feeling that there will be changes, big changes during the IB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 At risk of being controversial, I want to see Chaplow start. Without Morgan, we need a battling, tough, dare I say 'dirty' midfielder who will run, chase and fight for the ball for 90-minutes. We have pretty players who can do attractive things, we have players who can do the simple things well, but we lack bite in midfield, we lack a physical presence who will charge at the opposition just to win the ball. Chaplow is a player we would've benefited from vs Everton. With Cork and Morgan out, I would play a front 3 of Lallana, Lambert and Ramirez. With a reinforced 3 across the middle consisting of Chaplow, Guly and Davis. Remember Guly showing how disciplined and effective he can be playing central midfield vs Coventry... .......................Boruc Clyne......Yoshi........Jos.....Seaborne .....Chaplow....Davis.......Guly Ramirez.............................Lallana .....................Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Duff will have a field day with Seaborne I would have a field day against Seaborne, so would my Gran. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 (edited) ---------Gazza---------------- Richardson Fonte Yoshi Clyne --------Davis JWP------------- Punch----Gaston----Lallana-- ----------Lambert------------- Beurkk Davis and JWP, shuddergiving, surely we have some other solution be it ever so unlikely. That pairing was the root of all our troubles against Everton, 2x 10 stone midgets. I'd play Guly there in preference to one of those 2 and that's a desperation measure. Surely we must have someone somewhere with a bit of physical presence to replace at least one of them.When are those 2 lads who've been in the England U19s back with us again ? One of them is a midfielder isn't he. Edited 1 October, 2012 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 --------------Gazza Clyne - Fonte - Yoshi - Fox ---------Davis----JWP-------- Guly-------Ramirez----Lallana -------------Lambert----------- Boruc - Richardson - Hooiveld - Chaplow - Puncheon - Rodriguez - Mayuka Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Boruc will start in goal. I still feel we should have played Hooiveld at CB against Everton to deal with Fellaini and would have had Yoshida left back, think that could be an option for the Fulham game, just got a feeling Fox will be back in, he's our only recognised left-back. I would look to use Guly in someway. Ironically he is one of our most suited players for the 4-3-3/4-5-1 line up, as he links Midfield to attack very well and covers plenty of ground tracking back. I'd have had him in instead of Rodriquez against Everton. Having said that, I'm expecting Puncheon to come back in, with Rodriquez back on the bench. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 What about Reeves playing LB if Fox is injured ? Did a job there when he came on on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 What about Reeves playing LB if Fox is injured ? Did a job there when he came on on Saturday. Really can't judge him on that short appearance. He's always looked tidy when I've seen him play, but got no idea of his defensive qualities. It's a big ask, stepping up to the Prem (having played hardly any competitive/proper games at any level) and then being asked to do it away from your normal position? Anyway, going on Adkins post-match interview on Saints Player, Fox wasn't injured. Of more concern is why Clyne went off. Got a good full week to sort out any of these minor knocks and then 2 whole weeks to sort out anything more serious, so at least that's a positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Boruc Clyne Jos Yoshida Fox Cork Morgan Davis Ramirez Lallana Lambert Cork won't be available for at least a month if not more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 I would guess Clyne went off so Reeves could be given a go at left back and see how he slotted in there as another option. Would rather have Fox LB and Clyne RB than Richardson, thought he was pretty poor on Saturday. Berbatov being out is a big plus though, we need to win this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Boruc Clyne Jos Yoshida Fox Cork Morgan Davis Ramirez Lallana Lambert You know Adrian once upon a time there was the acronym EOE on every invoice and most other commercial documents. This should now be added to every tongue in cheek team suggestion, it means errors and omissions excepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 I would guess Clyne went off so Reeves could be given a go at left back and see how he slotted in there as another option. Would rather have Fox LB and Clyne RB than Richardson, thought he was pretty poor on Saturday. Berbatov being out is a big plus though, we need to win this one. Possibly, hope that was the case anyway. Reeves certainly offers us the kind of left back we need/want - can see him over-lapping Lallana and being an attacking threat, which should certainly work for our home games. As I say, just not sure on his defensive qualities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Possibly, hope that was the case anyway. Reeves certainly offers us the kind of left back we need/want - can see him over-lapping Lallana and being an attacking threat, which should certainly work for our home games. As I say, just not sure on his defensive qualities. He's decent. The lad played LB as youth player. He's only played further up since his introduction to the first team. Perhaps he's played in a more attacking role to develop that aspect of his game. The club have done that with Shaw too but he's still regarded as a LB. He's also played LB for the ressies recently. I wouldn't be surprised to see him there against Fulham with clyne at RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Troy Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 the calls for yoshida at left back are not good - we finally seem to have a calm, assured cb and we wanna move him! Has to stay at cb. Personally want clyne back to righ back where he will be far more effective, he stiffles adam going forward as only can cut in not overlap properly. Time for reeves in at the deep end? maybe. Time for Seaborne at left back? maybe, but deffo need a left footer in there in my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 He's decent. The lad played LB as youth player. He's only played further up since his introduction to the first team. Perhaps he's played in a more attacking role to develop that aspect of his game. The club have done that with Shaw too but he's still regarded as a LB. He's also played LB for the ressies recently. I wouldn't be surprised to see him there against Fulham with clyne at RB. I'll take your word for it, but from what I've seen he's hardly played left-back in the last two years. That certainly suggests more than just getting him exposed to playing in a more attacking way and that left-back isn't his preferred position. Seaborne was prefferred to him against Sheff Weds, which speaks volumes. If I remember correctly, Reeves wasn't even originally in the first team squad for pre-season and only just got drafted in at the announcement of the final squad. Football is a funny old game as they say, so I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being the surprise answer to our left-back problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Fulham are a good side playing well under Jol who is a total football man. This will be another very hard nut to crack. We never score against Brad Friedel either so that's it really. Beaten at our own game as we were by Arsenal & Everton. I fear 0-3 and for Adkins after this one. So, yes, 0-3 it will be and it hurts to say so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Fulham are a good side playing well under Jol who is a total football man. This will be another very hard nut to crack. We never score against Brad Friedel either so that's it really. Beaten at our own game as we were by Arsenal & Everton. I fear 0-3 and for Adkins after this one. So, yes, 0-3 it will be and it hurts to say so. freidel plays for spurs.... just saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Although Gazza made a great save moments before their 3rd goal he really should have saved that one. Boruc hasnt played since end of last season and his fitness is not up to speed yet (even keepers have to have a decent level of fitness) so he will have to wait. Shaw is pencilled in for the U21's game today so if he comes through unscathed I would stick him at left back and put clyne back at right back. jose was ball watching on everton's 2nd goal and is simply not good enough at this level so I would stick Jos in although I have same doubts about his ability at this level. Chaplow in for JWP on the basis we need more steel and bite in the middle. JWP is tidy on the ball and is a great prospect but we have enough in ramirez, lallana, davis and puncheon to make things happen with the ball. gazza clyne yoshida jos shaw Chaplow Davis Puncheon Ramirez Lallana Lambert Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Fulham are a good side playing well under Jol who is a total football man. This will be another very hard nut to crack. We never score against Brad Friedel either so that's it really. Beaten at our own game as we were by Arsenal & Everton. I fear 0-3 and for Adkins after this one. So, yes, 0-3 it will be and it hurts to say so. You'd think as an Arsenal supporter you'd know who plays for Spuds your great North London rivals. Schwarzer is a decent keeper though (especially for an Aussie) but Fulham don't travel well, although they are excellent at the Cottage. I think we have enough to get 3 points at St Mary's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 (edited) Chaplow and Richardson are not the answer. If Fox isn't up to it then lets hope Shaw has a good game back from illness today for the U21s. Defense vs Everton wasnt terrible, it was the lack of support from the midfield. This formation should help contain the flanks, and JWP and Davis just need to be a bit more aggressive trying to win back the ball in the middle. If we played Chaplow we wouldnt keep the ball enough which would ruin our whole setup. Lets go for the 4-4-1-1 that we played so well vs Villa second half: ----------------Boruc-------------------- Clyne------Jose-------Yoshida-------Fox Puncheon----Davis-----JWP-------Lallana ----------------Ramirez--------------- ---------------Lambert---------------- Edited 1 October, 2012 by Saint Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 I'll take your word for it, but from what I've seen he's hardly played left-back in the last two years. That certainly suggests more than just getting him exposed to playing in a more attacking way and that left-back isn't his preferred position. Seaborne was prefferred to him against Sheff Weds, which speaks volumes. If I remember correctly, Reeves wasn't even originally in the first team squad for pre-season and only just got drafted in at the announcement of the final squad. Football is a funny old game as they say, so I wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being the surprise answer to our left-back problem. Not saying reeves isnt a good player but he couldnt get in Dagenham's team last season when they were bottom of L2. Shaw the much better player of the two, and Reeves has been moved up the field because he is too lightweight to be a defender. Only reason Clyne came off was because Reeves has a better left footed cross. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Were at home so thats a positive......... but frankly 6 games into the PL I've just fallen back into my old PL saints surpporter mode and assume we will get a kicking every match we play now....... I'd take a draw, frankly, against another team that look better than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 1 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2012 I want this... I rate Chaplow over JWP and if Fox starts, we're going to lose. I also think Richardson had a good game v Everton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 I want this... I rate Chaplow over JWP and if Fox starts, we're going to lose. I also think Richardson had a good game v Everton Richardson was pretty woeful I thought. Too slow on the ball and often gave it away. Totally let Jelavic go for the third goal. He isn't a prem player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 I thought Richardson was very poor on Saturday, I'd rather have Fox back in there I think, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 1 October, 2012 Share Posted 1 October, 2012 I want this... I rate Chaplow over JWP and if Fox starts, we're going to lose. I also think Richardson had a good game v Everton Why do you rate Chaplow over JWP?? JWP is good on the ball, can pass it and move about the pitch in decent ways. Chaplow is just short and bald with poor positioning and an average touch. Don't really see why Chaplow would get a start on Sunday if JWP is fit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 1 October, 2012 Author Share Posted 1 October, 2012 Richardson was pretty woeful I thought. Too slow on the ball and often gave it away. Totally let Jelavic go for the third goal. He isn't a prem player. He may not be ideal, but he's certainly better than fox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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