Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Mr Hindsight is love, love loving it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IOWSaintDaz Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Game was lost in the first half with our suicidal defending (the words "we couldn't defend a fish supper" spring to mind) , better 2nd half but always chasing the game. Jrod was awful today, he plays worse when up against better opposition subs to late again Hoping for better against Fulham next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 First team to score in the first half against Everton this season Good stat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint137 Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Can't keep shipping goals at this rate, need to start playing a lot more defensively than we're used to. Not sure we have the players to grind out 0-0s though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 PMSL ...Oh dear..you have proved once and for all you are daft... Of course I have. Whereas on the other hand you have demonstrated what a troll you are by posting more attacking me and my posts, than about the subject in hand, for the past hour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Would be interesting to know how long Morgan is out for, hopefully Adkins will elaborate in his post match interview. Adkins? Elaborate about injuries...? That would be a first ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 2 goals against Wednesday, one a peno. So what ? But if we had lost you would have burst all your blood vessels while throwing your toys all around... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Would be interesting to know how long Morgan is out for, hopefully Adkins will elaborate in his post match interview. He'll just say he has a knock and they're assessing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 but we are horrific at the back.....every team that stayed up last season beat a big boy and got the odd unexpected draw (or even win) on the road.. letting in an average of 4 goals an away game.....just aint going to happen think we will stay up with some to spare. We will let in loads of goals. We will get most points at home by far. no need to panic yet how many points to stay up..39 ish? 12 more wins at home? Even if nothing away (reckon will get something away - QPR, WHU, Reading, Villa, Norwich, Wigan, Swansea?? could easily see 6 points somewhere there). So just need ten home wins How about Reading QPR West Ham Norwich Swansea Fulham Stoke Sunderland Newcastle and then Arsenal! Enjoy the ride!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 remind me who we played in midweek and where they stand in the League then. The gulf between the bottom of the NPC and the PL is huge. I'm beginning to get the impression that JRod is a Champioship striker, then again so was Billy Sharp who we discarded after half a season without a second thought. Ouch...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Can't keep shipping goals at this rate, need to start playing a lot more defensively than we're used to. Not sure we have the players to grind out 0-0s though I think we're playing to our strengths. You're right, we don't have the players to grind out 0-0's. We just need to outscore as many as we can between now and January, and hope we catch a few teams on an off day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 2 goals against Wednesday, one a peno. So what ? He is not useless, thats what. You would have seen that if you did more than rely on the goal stats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 We go and buy almost-unheard of players from abroad on the hope we've spotted something that might blossom under the light of the PL. We end up buying players who want to come - what sort of world class players are battering down the doors of a newly promoted team in preference to established clubs with a chance of European football ? Ramirez, Mayuka, and Yoshida are all establlished internationals, Clyne is a great buy, J-Rod was hardly an unknown - and we must have had our reasons for getting him in so early in the window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 But if we had lost you would have burst all your blood vessels while throwing your toys all around... Thats not the point. Go and shift the goalposts by yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Good stat. I'm standing in for MLG :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigShadow Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Don't know about suicidal defending......lack of any form of defensive midfield in the 1st half meant the defence was getting pulled all over the place. Oh well, even when Everton were sh!t, a trip to Goodison usually meant Nil points - so business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Started well, then Everton started to overlap on the fullbacks (done their homework) and eventually a lucky ricochet fell for their equaliser, after that their tails were up and we were battered for the rest of the half. 2nd half we competed and done a lot better, maybe even had the better chances. How horrible is Evertons football, constant pass round the back and then the big lump to Felliani...who bossed us around big time. I guess its a results game and winning by playing ugly can't be knocked! We play nice and get smashed....haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 I think we're good enough but not consistently. Too many saw-edged performances from our players. The only consistency that we have displayed, is that to lose, and to concede goals - lots of them too. So we basically need to do a complete U turn on that one and start to pick up points. Will we become consistent enough to pick up 36 - 40 points this season - time will tell. Not very many weeks ago certain posters on here were talking about European League places - how many would now settle purely for scrapping in by the skin of our teeth. Much more realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Can the mods please quit with deleting my posts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Of course I have. Whereas on the other hand you have demonstrated what a troll you are by posting more attacking me and my posts, than about the subject in hand, for the past hour. I am, like many others sick of your utter tripe,nothing trolling about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Oh dear! I think Nigel is making a lot of mistakes. We need a win against Fulham - but then we needed one against Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 The big worry is not only that we concede too much, but that as soon as we concede we seem to lose our bottle and concede again very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 I am, like many others sick of your utter tripe,nothing trolling about it The mods delete replies to his tripe and allow him to post unchallenged! Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 remind me who we played in midweek and where they stand in the League then. The gulf between the bottom of the NPC and the PL is huge. I'm beginning to get the impression that JRod is a Championship striker, then again so was Billy Sharp who we discarded after half a season without a second thought. So you did not see him play up front late on at the Emirates either? I was responding to the "he's USELESS" post. He is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Oh dear! I think Nigel is making a lot of mistakes. We need a win against Fulham - but then we needed one against Wigan. And we needed one against Villa, which we got. Conveniently forgotten. What mistakes is he making, out of interest? I think he's just working with what he's got, and with injurys this is what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Thats not the point. Go and shift the goalposts by yourself. It is though..Its just how you are but refuse to admit it... You are never happy unless you have a gripe and it does my head in and i am not alone... We all realise it will be along hard season and expect more downs than ups but don`t have the need to complain in your never ending manner.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Is it just me, or are no media outlet showing updated scores? Everywhere seems to be stuck on the score line from 60ish mins. Really odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Is it just me, or are no media outlet showing updated scores? Everywhere seems to be stuck on the score line from 60ish mins. Really odd. Yeah known issue apparently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Is it just me, or are no media outlet showing updated scores? Everywhere seems to be stuck on the score line from 60ish mins. Really odd. all of them...I kept checking the BBC after SSN was not updating (to find out if suarez bagged 3 as he is in my dream team).... also, is our game next week on sky..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 all of them...I kept checking the BBC after SSN was not updating (to find out if suarez bagged 3 as he is in my dream team).... also, is our game next week on sky..? I think it is, Super Sunday 1:30 ko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Still very concerned about our defensive woes but I think we've actually tightened up there with Yoshida alongside Fonte. Today's main problems (as at Arsenal) were in midfield IMO, and we sorted them at half time for the most part. Too bad that we were already effectively out of the game by then. We didn't choose to change a winning team, we were forced to do so, and that hurt us big-time. I'm still quite optimistic about staying up and perhaps doing better than just that. In our first six games we've played Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton (who have gained more points in 2012 than anyone bar City and United.) And our points total and goal difference are not much worse than teams that haven't played all those juggernauts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Of course I have. Whereas on the other hand you have demonstrated what a troll you are by posting more attacking me and my posts, than about the subject in hand, for the past hour. FFS I come on here to find out how the game went and already half the thread is taken up by your over-the-top knee jerk reactions from afar followed up by needless digs at anyone who dares to counter your views. I have never criticised you before Alpine but a lot of the time you ask for what you get, I really wish sometimes you post your view/comment then shut the **** up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Whatever happens this season, I am fully committed to the Leihbers/Cortese/Adkins combo. This is the combo that has given me such joy the last couple of years, and they are the three I want in place at the end of the season, no matter what. In this combo I trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Whatever happens this season, I am fully committed to the Leihbers/Cortese/Adkins combo. This is the combo that has given me such joy the last couple of years, and they are the three I want in place at the end of the season, no matter what. In this combo I trust. Ditto. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Still very concerned about our defensive woes but I think we've actually tightened up there with Yoshida alongside Fonte. Today's main problems (as at Arsenal) were in midfield IMO, and we sorted them at half time for the most part. Too bad that we were already effectively out of the game by then. We didn't choose to change a winning team, we were forced to do so, and that hurt us big-time. I'm still quite optimistic about staying up and perhaps doing better than just that. In our first six games we've played Man City, Man Utd, Arsenal and Everton (who have gained more points in 2012 than anyone bar City and United.) And our points total and goal difference are not much worse than teams that haven't played all those juggernauts. Good post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Exactly as expected, even got me 10 points in the Prediction League. Anyone writing off our season because we lost to Everton has no idea about how Everton are playing this season and has not watched any of their games. If they play like they are all season they will be Top 4 at least (but I expect they will fall away when a few injuries hit). Its annoying to lose, but hardly expect anything else, has always been the same at Goodison for the last 40+ years. Even then to keep it to 3-1 without Morgan almost feels like a result (well perhaps not almost). Was Clyne subbed for any injury related reason? Hope not and just hope Morgan will be back for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalneSaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 It was always going to difficult going to Everton, who are one of the in form PL teams. Very disappointed to lose and unless we can sort out our defensive woes, we will continue to ship goals. The team played some good football today albeit in patches, but as some have already said on here, we were at times naive. Its not time to start panicking...not yet methinks, as Reading, QPR etc are also struggling, if we can pick up points against the teams around us we will be fine. NA hasn't become a bad manager, nor have the players become bad (some maybe !!!!) overnight so to speak. We just need to stay behind the team, and it will happen for us. I can remember when we were in the PL last time, and we were the perennial slow starters.....so may be, just maybe this could be our slump!!!!! and we kick on ...... :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Home games are where season will be won or lost. Beat 13 teams at home and won't go far wrong. feels like a big ask at the moment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 It was always going to difficult going to Everton, who are one of the in form PL teams. Very disappointed to lose and unless we can sort out our defensive woes, we will continue to ship goals. The team played some good football today albeit in patches, but as some have already said on here, we were at times naive. Its not time to start panicking...not yet methinks, as Reading, QPR etc are also struggling, if we can pick up points against the teams around us we will be fine. NA hasn't become a bad manager, nor have the players become bad (some maybe !!!!) overnight so to speak. We just need to stay behind the team, and it will happen for us. I can remember when we were in the PL last time, and we were the perennial slow starters.....so may be, just maybe this could be our slump!!!!! and we kick on ...... :thumbup: 2 posts from Calne in succession, spooky :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangermouth Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 No idea who expected us to win at Everton. Even when poorer than they are currently they'd normally win by at least a couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 No idea who expected us to win at Everton. Even when poorer than they are currently they'd normally win by at least a couple. As someone posted earlier, I think a lot of the disappointment came from us taking the lead......Oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 At least we didn't have Chris Woods in goal and at least we didn't lose 7-1. Still traumatised by that visit to Goodison. Reasons to be cheerful! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 2 posts from Calne in succession, spooky :-) What is a Calne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windmill Arm 2 Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Great post. During the summer the top ten teams seem to buy a bit from abroad, then spend the rest of their energies shaving 0.5m lumps off transfer deals amongst themselves. We go and buy almost-unheard of players from abroad on the hope we've spotted something that might blossom under the light of the PL. Very Rupert Lowe-ish. BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH, Bore off you knob, you don't go to games therefore your opinion is not valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 What players could be motivated by Adkins and his stooges lying back on the touchline. Where is the Nigel who gives as much as the players from the touchline. Failing to replace the useless Rodriguez by Puncheon ensured we didn't stand a hope in hell of pulling a goal or two back. Switched off, just couldn't see more of the same old ****e due to Adkins losing the plot again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stknowle Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 13 Sunderland 5 0 5 14 Liverpool 6 -4 5 15 Wigan 6 -5 5 16 Aston Villa 5 -4 4 17 Southampton 6 -8 3 18 Norwich 6 -8 3 19 Reading 5 -5 2 20 QPR 5 -8 2 No need to panic Indeed not. Our three away games have been against City, Everton, Arsenal. One savage battering no points but who would really expect to have gleaned any points from those 3? Wigan is our worst result of the season, but I remain confident that we will win more than we lose against the weaker sides and this will be enough to keep us up which is mission accomplished even if we're 17th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Great post. During the summer the top ten teams seem to buy a bit from abroad, then spend the rest of their energies shaving 0.5m lumps off transfer deals amongst themselves. We go and buy almost-unheard of players from abroad on the hope we've spotted something that might blossom under the light of the PL. Very Rupert Lowe-ish. Utterly ridiculous. We have made some fantastic buys, a 3-1 defeat away to the best Everton side in years doesn't change that. Newcastle are showing what buying cleverly and prudently from abroad can get you. I have always been, and remain, concerned about LB in particular but it was still a great transfer window from us, especially with the addition of Boruc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 So then what did NA say in his post match interview ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohio Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 audio boo anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalneSaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 What is a Calne? Good question...still trying to work it out myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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