Shanghai Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Take a look at our projected formation versus Everton; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2210251/Martin-Keown-Premier-League-bootroom-fab-set-season-alight.html Martin Keown - ITK or Muppet Pundit? Does he honestly get paid for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 He probably doesn't do the team line up bit. But another comparison to Grant Holt FFS... So muppet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plod Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 WTF - Adkins popped our Ricky on the bench against Man City for tic tactical reasons, I am sure of it. M K = K-nob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornseySaintsFan Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Back in WGS day I used to live with an Observer sports journo and he asked me for a predicted team line up. It was published despite all the deliberate mistakes. No real research done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Are Ramirez, Lallana and Yoshida all injured? He didn't mention it. He doesn't mention subs, so he must think that these three will come on as impact subs. Prat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 why do people get so offended when comparing lambert to Holt.. holt was brilliant for norwich last season..and if lambert does equally as good I will be ecstatic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Take a look at our projected formation versus Everton; http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2210251/Martin-Keown-Premier-League-bootroom-fab-set-season-alight.html Martin Keown - ITK or Muppet Pundit? Does he honestly get paid for this? what about his team selection! - no way will KD play ...and what happened to Adam Lallana ..Martin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 why do people get so offended when comparing lambert to Holt.. holt was brilliant for norwich last season..and if lambert does equally as good I will be ecstatic I don't think it's offence, more like it's the same old comparison peddled out by all the pundits. It's almost like if one says it, the others follow suit, surely it wouldn't hurt for one of them to have an original thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Maybe he is on drugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 why do people get so offended when comparing lambert to Holt.. holt was brilliant for norwich last season..and if lambert does equally as good I will be ecstatic Because Lambert has all the attributes that Holt has - + skill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Because Lambert has all the attributes that Holt has - + skill. Are you saying Holt does not have skill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Waaah, waaaah, Waah and the formation is wrong and we've signed Boruc this week, Waah Waah, waaah, i hate the media, I hate all pundits, they are sh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 I don't think it's offence, more like it's the same old comparison peddled out by all the pundits. It's almost like if one says it, the others follow suit, surely it wouldn't hurt for one of them to have an original thought. Maybe it's because there are a lot of similarities, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Are you saying Holt does not have skill? Not anywhere near the level of Ricky - I have the dubious delight of living close to Norwich and even the wurzels agree that his control and distribution don't come close. On the 'big, old fashioned centre-forward' front they're comparable but RL has much more to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Not anywhere near the level of Ricky - I have the dubious delight of living close to Norwich and even the wurzels agree that his control and distribution don't come close. On the 'big, old fashioned centre-forward' front they're comparable but RL has much more to his game. As Lawreson highlighted on MOTD last Saturday, but he's a c*nt who knows f*ck as well isn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Not anywhere near the level of Ricky - I have the dubious delight of living close to Norwich and even the wurzels agree that his control and distribution don't come close. On the 'big, old fashioned centre-forward' front they're comparable but RL has much more to his game. how hasn't he..some of the goals he scored last season needed incredible skill.... your summing of holt is equally as lazy as the article itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 It is easy for the so-called pundits to bracket Holt and Lambert together, just as it is inevitable that the two clubs are bracketed together because we both achieved back to back promotions to get to the Premiership. Holt surprised the pundits because they didn't believe that a striker from the lower divisions could score in the Premiership. Lambert is also making them sit up and take notice, even after so few games, where he is joint top striker. But when we were at the same level as Norwich and played them, we more often than not beat them and Lambert will produce more goals this season than Holt too, as he is the better player and we will finish above Norwich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 It's quite simple. They are compared because there are a lot of similarities. Just because you lot isn't like it it doesn't make it untrue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Because it's predictable, lazy and based purely on 2 senior strikers getting a first shot at the top flight rather than watching them closely. I've no problem with any opinion from someone that's actually watched them play regularly. You disagree that they are similar then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Just as an aside, Can someone tell me where the Metalwork is, as Everton have hit it 6 times this season Spurs 4 and us 2. Is it rattled the stadium structure that holds up the roof or the number of players doing Metalwork in evening classes in preparation for life after Football? Yes I know it's some pedantic whatsit talking about the goalposts which have been metal for years, when you look at our line up then read that little stat you just know that the person collating that knows chuff all about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 how hasn't he..some of the goals he scored last season needed incredible skill.... your summing of holt is equally as lazy as the article itself Your quote... why do people get so offended when comparing lambert to Holt.. 'holt was brilliant for norwich last season..and if lambert does equally as good I will be ecstatic' Which perceptive bit of skill analysis did I miss? Quote Delldays... 'your summing of holt is equally as lazy as the article itself' And yours? For the record I'm not offended by comparisons but as I said in my 'deep analysis' Lambert has better touch and a better eye for a pass than Holt...Holt scored a couple of beauties last year but his overall contribution to Norwich's play is nowhere near as as comprehensive as Lambert's is to ours because he lacks the qualities above.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Your quote... why do people get so offended when comparing lambert to Holt.. 'holt was brilliant for norwich last season..and if lambert does equally as good I will be ecstatic' Which perceptive bit of skill analysis did I miss? Quote Delldays... 'your summing of holt is equally as lazy as the article itself' And yours? For the record I'm not offended by comparisons but as I said in my 'deep analysis' Lambert has better touch and a better eye for a pass than Holt...Holt scored a couple of beauties last year but his overall contribution to Norwich's play is nowhere near as as comprehensive as Lambert's is to ours because he lacks the qualities above.. Which was nicely summed up by that other clueless c*nt we love to have a pop at, Mark Lawreson on MOTD last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dronskisaint Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Which was nicely summed up by that other clueless c*nt we love to have a pop at, Mark Lawreson on MOTD last week. We clueless c*nts agree from time to time...didn't see MOTD last week - I'm offended by the visage of Saggy the twitch (and I was celebrating) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toofarnorth Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Maybe Martin Keown is the VMAM. Would be a big surprise come three o'clock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 how hasn't he..some of the goals he scored last season needed incredible skill.... your summing of holt is equally as lazy as the article itself If we were to hypothetically swap Lambert with Holt would we be be better or worst for it or the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 That team selection and line up is completely ridiculous. Why some get their knickers in a twist about people pointing it I dont know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Keown probably didn't do the line ups anyway, some junior hack or work experience kid in the office would have been given that job. As for Lambert/Holt similarities they are both good in the air and slow, but that's it. Lambert plays wider, had better touch, vision, technique and passing ability. You could just as easily draw a comparison between Lambert and Teddy Sheringham, but no one does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Your quote... why do people get so offended when comparing lambert to Holt.. 'holt was brilliant for norwich last season..and if lambert does equally as good I will be ecstatic' Which perceptive bit of skill analysis did I miss? Quote Delldays... 'your summing of holt is equally as lazy as the article itself' And yours? For the record I'm not offended by comparisons but as I said in my 'deep analysis' Lambert has better touch and a better eye for a pass than Holt...Holt scored a couple of beauties last year but his overall contribution to Norwich's play is nowhere near as as comprehensive as Lambert's is to ours because he lacks the qualities above.. The comparisons between Lambert and Holt are incredibly close in certain areas and something that is always going to be commented upon. When was the last time in the Premier that you had an old striker who came through from League 1 to the Premier in consecutive season, scoring record goals for fun along the way. To then end up with two in the Premier with nigh on identical records separated by a season is truly exceptional. Everyone is going to note this similarity and comment upon such. Not to would be the unusual! Holt has a bit more pace than Ricky and most importantly can generate his own chances. Ricky has really improved mentally this season and the manner in which he has scored this season has a lot to do with the thought he is putting into his game. Ricky normally scores about a goal a season where he creates the opening himself, something he has already done. Ricky just seems more polished this season and the comparison to Sheringham is even more warranted. There are differences in their play but ask any Premier fan to pick two strikers out that came from the same pod and you would have your overwhelming favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 That team selection and line up is completely ridiculous. Why some get their knickers in a twist about people pointing it I dont know. Why some get their knickers in a twist about a paper getting our line up wrong I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 September, 2012 Share Posted 29 September, 2012 Why some get their knickers in a twist about a paper getting our line up wrong I don't know. Because it's their job to report with at least some level of accuracy. Why is someone pointing that out so bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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