Saint George Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 When you put everything into perspective, it's actually quite funny when you think how protective people get about their countries etc. I mean, we're all people, and all live on the same ball of mass......but have decided over the thousands of years to create these little make believe lines seperating us from other people. I'm not all for everyone moving anywhere..... but when you put it into perspective, does it really matter? I guess you wouldnt mind if there were public stonings of adulterating women outside Southampton Civic centre every Saturday morning.......and public beheadings and hand choppings outside the local courts once a month? Gas Chambers for the Jews and special offers at your local cannibal supermarket......Cow's to be worshiped and not eaten.......Horse meat, Dog and still warm fresh monkey brains to replace lamb chops....I could go on, but hopefully you get the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crouchie's Lawyer Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I guess you wouldnt mind if there were public stonings of adulterating women outside Southampton Civic centre every Saturday morning.......and public beheadings and hand choppings outside the local courts once a month? Gas Chambers for the Jews and special offers at your local cannibal supermarket......Cow's to be worshiped and not eaten.......Horse meat, Dog and still warm fresh monkey brains to replace lamb chops....I could go on, but hopefully you get the point no please... go on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I guess you wouldnt mind if there were public stonings of adulterating women outside Southampton Civic centre every Saturday morning.......a They could do them at half time at SMS, would probably put another 10K on the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 hmmm why do i want to leave my country and go to another? same goes for anyone else.. i wonder if I could pick up the same benefits in poland...what do you reckon.. People leave their countries because they want a better quality of life, and I think its typical of the right to be so ****ing slefish! And, it is such an uneducated view you have as well TDD. The vast vast vast majority of immigrants work extremely hard and do the jobs that our own right-winged lunatics in Halifax etc think is beneath them. So, you would never move to Australia or Spain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 People leave their countries because they want a better quality of life, and I think its typical of the right to be so ****ing slefish! And, it is such an uneducated view you have as well TDD. The vast vast vast majority of immigrants work extremely hard and do the jobs that our own right-winged lunatics in Halifax etc think is beneath them. So, you would never move to Australia or Spain? do you think the UK is well placed to leave its borders wide open..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 MRS WSS is Polish - always has been, always will be. She is not a British Citizen, never has been, probably never will be either. She works, so technically can be classed as a "Polish Worker". She is on the electoral roll - so is her mother, who is retired, and no longer works, but does pay her council tax - and is eligible to vote. It is only apathy on her behalf that means she never bothers to use that vote. Only in local and EU elections. If she gets a polling card for a General Election there is something very wrong. Having said that, it's the council who regulate the electoral roll, and if they can register 6 month old children and cats as voters then nothing would surprise me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 They could do them at half time at SMS, would probably put another 10K on the gate. anyone else thinking "hhmmm, Rupert"??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Only in local and EU elections. If she gets a polling card for a General Election there is something very wrong. Having said that, it's the council who regulate the electoral roll, and if they can register 6 month old children and cats as voters then nothing would surprise me. Err - the council electoral roll comprises people who register themselves! However, should a 6 month old child or a cat choose to register itself, I suppose you could say the council should have checked that out. Name = Tiger would be a clue maybe. No chance the idiots living at the address registered them I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thesaint sfc Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 How does she make up the £20K a year then, I mean I might be missing out on a career opportunity here. 20K, that's err about 28000 euros a year or 2300 euros a month, at least double the minimum wage in France, only 1 child as well, get f-ll for that here. I'll find out what benefits she receives tonight and post tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff leopard Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I think it hilarious that rascists bark on about how terrible immigration is and in the same breath pine for the days of the British Empire, without ever seeing how one resulted in the other. The retards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Only in local and EU elections. If she gets a polling card for a General Election there is something very wrong. Having said that, it's the council who regulate the electoral roll, and if they can register 6 month old children and cats as voters then nothing would surprise me. http://www.dca.gov.uk/elections/ge2001/procedures/01.htm#elegability She definitely got one for the general election, but we were living in Wales at the time, and mistakes from the Welsh government employees are second nature!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I'll find out what benefits she receives tonight and post tomorrow. Only if it's "unclassified" information, don't embarrass the poor lady, just seems a lot to me . I would have thought that some of the benefits would be ongoing even if she took a 16K a year job, probably still come out on the plus side of the ledger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Yeah. Full of contradictions, assumptions, hypocrisy - but then, racism was never, ever about rationality, common sense, deceny or anything other than mindless hatred.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Yeah. Full of contradictions, assumptions, hypocrisy - The last Labour party manifesto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 The last Labour party manifesto Well, maybe. I'm not the staunchest fan of New Labour by any means. A few genuine key reforms, but.. it was nigh on impossible to deliver what they promised, and actually, I honestly don't think anyone would / could have done too much differently. Could certainly have done a whole lot worse - though of course, the shift to the New did disenfranchise many former diehards. I'd say it's a general political party manifesto, rather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 If being a member of the BNP is not embarrassing or intrinsically wrong, why do so many people on that list demand 'absolute discretion' regarding their membership? Makes me lol anyway. I would be embarrassed if my name was made public regards being a Saints fan and member of this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I'd say it's a general political party manifesto, rather. I'd agree. I just put Labour because they won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I would be embarrassed if my name was made public regards being a Saints fan and member of this forum. Is that you sat on the 'A' in your avatar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 do you think the UK is well placed to leave its borders wide open..? As I'm sure you're aware, the government is planning to put in plans to have a 'point system' such as Oz. However, I think you would be hard pressed to argue against the point that immigrants that have come in over the last ten years have not played their part in the betterment of British society? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Is that you sat on the 'A' in your avatar? No, why? Its a pic from the "Echo" website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I think it hilarious that rascists bark on about how terrible immigration is and in the same breath pine for the days of the British Empire, without ever seeing how one resulted in the other. The retards. Succinct and to the point, I can just hear them now: "Aaah but that's not our fault is it? It's our Father's faults!" Then in the same breath they blame the current German population for WWII! Ironic to the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Succinct and to the point, I can just hear them now: "Aaah but that's not our fault is it? It's our Father's faults!" Then in the same breath they blame the current German population for WWII! Ironic to the point. Thirded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I would be embarrassed if my name was made public regards being a Saints fan and member of this forum. you could always become a member of legia warsaw's fan club and football forum... in order of betterment of your pride..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Jobs are in jeopardy according to 5 news.... Oh noes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Jobs are in jeopardy according to 5 news.... Oh noes. Just jobs in general or in some specific enterprise? Oh right because they belong to the BNP. Is that allowed in the UK then, sacking someone because of their political convictions. In France nobody would have a job because there's always something against all parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Just jobs in general or in some specific enterprise? Oh right because they belong to the BNP. Is that allowed in the UK then, sacking someone because of their political convictions. In France nobody would have a job because there's always something against all parties. Rightly or wrongly it is unlawful to be a member of the services, police force or prison service if you are an active member of the BNP. Teachers are also under investigation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Rightly or wrongly it is unlawful to be a member of the services, police force or prison service if you are an active member of the BNP. Teachers are also under investigation. As I say, wouldn't work in France. I would estimate that at least 20% of police officers and gendarmes are National Front. Mind you the FN do poll around 12/18 % in most elections so it's in line with statistics; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Rightly or wrongly it is unlawful to be a member of the services, police force or prison service if you are an active member of the BNP. Teachers are also under investigation. I think that shouldn't be the case. However, everyone's contract of employment should have a clause that says that, in the course of their duties, no-one should promote any political or religious view nor should they allow such views to influence the way they treat fellow citizens or carry out their duties. But everyone should be allowed to join a political party, no matter how misguided their views are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 LIke I said, "rightly or wrongly", however, I've little sympathy with them as their contracts of employment will say as much and if they've signed them under the pretence of not being a member they should be sacked for gross misconduct anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Succinct and to the point, I can just hear them now: "Aaah but that's not our fault is it? It's our Father's faults!" Then in the same breath they blame the current German population for WWII! Ironic to the point. ESB are you 100% english? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I think that shouldn't be the case. However, everyone's contract of employment should have a clause that says that, in the course of their duties, no-one should promote any political or religious view nor should they allow such views to influence the way they treat fellow citizens or carry out their duties. But everyone should be allowed to join a political party, no matter how misguided their views are. And you don't have the worst of the nutjobs. Like Arlette Laguiller,state bank senior employee,Lutte Ouvrière, Death to all Bosses, whoever and wherever they may be.Polls about 2% in every Presidential election since 1976.And there are farther left than her to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 ESB are you 100% english? Very, very few people are tbh. In fact I read somewhere that the only 100% Brits on this isle are in the very West of Wales and the very North of Scotland and, obviously, none of those are English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Martini Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I actually think that sounds all well and good and most of it hits the spot very nicely. The only problem is that it is merely a sound bite of some of their policy ideas. I dare say you could equally take snippets from a Hitler manifesto and make it read quite nicely too. We do have a low standard of education in our schools. For instance, when you mention on here that many posters use the incorrect their/there/they're it is met with, "it's only a message board" and the same with to/too/two. The "only a message board" reply is rubbish as it is as easy to get right as it is to get wrong and only requires knowledge, something which schools should be passing on. The only part of his paragraph that I do not like is the word "native" towards the end, as it implies people who moved here have no say or rights, but if he was ever to trace his or anyone's roots back very far I am sure that would also include himself and indeed most of us, the bell end. But the low education standard in British schools have little to do with "trendy" teaching methods (what are these "trendy" teaching methods anyway?). These are the same methods in many ways that make Finland one of the best educated. I'm aware that there are huge differences between the two education systems but the Finnish is just as "trendy" as the British one. This is one thing that often bothers me about these kind of parties. They always refer to the past as something that was much better idealizing it and forgetting the bad stuff and more often then not their policy ideas are not based on any scientific research. The example now is education policy but it might as well be health or employment policy. They pretend to be a proper politcal party but they don't put enough time into writing their party program. They are a one issue party pretending to be a regular political party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 However, everyone's contract of employment should have a clause that says that, in the course of their duties, no-one should promote any political or religious view nor should they allow such views to influence the way they treat fellow citizens or carry out their duties. Kind of buggers up the application forms for the jobs of MP and priest doesn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Kind of buggers up the application forms for the jobs of MP and priest doesn't it? Excellent Cuppa all over the keyboard - I thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Very, very few people are tbh. In fact I read somewhere that the only 100% Brits on this isle are in the very West of Wales and the very North of Scotland and, obviously, none of those are English. Now you're confusing race and nationality. There are no "English",mixed decent from Angles,Saxons and Celts with a liberal dose of Norman thrown in. There are probably pure Celts in Scotland,Ireland and Wales . There are probably one or two pure race Saxon families (who keep damn quiet about it,so don't bother to Google it) left in Britain as they existed well into the 19th Century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Then I don't really understand AS1's question. I assumed HE was confusing race and Nationality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Then I don't really understand AS1's question. I assumed HE was confusing race and Nationality. Sorry Ponty, clicked on the wrong post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Incidentally, I'm quite impressed this thread has lasted nearly 7 pages without being locked. And who said Saints Web posters were all rabid mentalists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 I'm only skim-reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwaySaint1 Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Then I don't really understand AS1's question What bit confused you? The first bit of the post that never asked for your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 What bit confused you? The first bit of the post that never asked for your opinion? It's a forum, you WILL tend to get opinions from others from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 What bit confused you? The first bit of the post that never asked for your opinion? Yeah, nice one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 What AwaySaint1 meant to do was start a thread with his opinion and then have it locked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Incidentally, I'm quite impressed this thread has lasted nearly 7 pages without being locked. And who said Saints Web posters were all rabid mentalists? i think it's because views have been expressed and discussed in a civilised manner, rather than resorting to name-calling and bullying. at the end of the day, we all have our views, some of which are based on fact, others on conjecture and others on hear-say, but all go towards us forming our own opinions. no-one is EVER gonna agree on every subject.......and thank goodness for that! my mum always said that it would be a boring world if we all thought the same.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 My opinions are of course right, though. Everyone who doesn't agree is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 My opinions are of course right, though. Everyone who doesn't agree is wrong. same here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Aw, no-one had a pop at me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 19 November, 2008 Author Share Posted 19 November, 2008 http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008/nov/19/talksport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint boggy Posted 19 November, 2008 Share Posted 19 November, 2008 Aw, no-one had a pop at me. how can i have a go at you for being as self-righteous as me???:smt042 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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