The Kraken Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 The thought of him being wrong is incomprehensible, so don't even question it. You sometimes have to admire the dedication and sheer unwillingness to face up to it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 (edited) Well if he is really on £90k p/w, that helps me in my never ending "debates" with Kraken, Turkish etc with the scale of the resources and ambition behind Saints. From the 135 minutes in a Saints shirt that Ramirez has played so far he looks to be an extremely talented player. Edited 25 September, 2012 by Matthew Le God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 I don't think he is on £90k/ week, but I'm sure he's probably on what he said he was on.....i.e. £38k/wk after tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armitage Shanks Posted 25 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 25 September, 2012 I'm going to have trouble paying my tax bill in January. I wanted to know which player to write to who would give me a loan and in return I would give the person concerned some crap legal advice in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 More than any of us, that's for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 A big part of Southampton Player wages are based on bonuses and if the past is anything to go by they will not be straight forward. I believe last season almost half the wages were bonus related. Win bonuses were only 100% when the team was in the top two (which was a great incentive by Cortese as they never dropped out of that paramenter) If they had the bonuses were reduced to about 60% I suspect similar restrictions over league position, although tailored to meet our present requirements of maintaining our league status at the end of the season. I would imagine Gastón Ramírez would be on a similar contract condition. The talk was about £45,000 per week but I reckon that will include bonuses. That is about £10M over his 4 year contract and sounds more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 A big part of Southampton Player wages are based on bonuses and if the past is anything to go by they will not be straight forward. I believe last season almost half the wages were bonus related. Win bonuses were only 100% when the team was in the top two (which was a great incentive by Cortese as they never dropped out of that paramenter) If they had the bonuses were reduced to about 60% I suspect similar restrictions over league position, although tailored to meet our present requirements of maintaining our league status at the end of the season. I would imagine Gastón Ramírez would be on a similar contract condition. The talk was about £45,000 per week but I reckon that will include bonuses. That is about £10M over his 4 year contract and sounds more likely. The league placing based bonuses seem to be a fairly standard thing in football these days; I know at least 2 or 3 Championship clubs who do exactly the same type of thing, so I imagine its fairly industry strandard (and like you say a good idea). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat from Poole Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 A big part of Southampton Player wages are based on bonuses and if the past is anything to go by they will not be straight forward. I believe last season almost half the wages were bonus related. Win bonuses were only 100% when the team was in the top two (which was a great incentive by Cortese as they never dropped out of that paramenter) If they had the bonuses were reduced to about 60% I suspect similar restrictions over league position, although tailored to meet our present requirements of maintaining our league status at the end of the season. I would imagine Gastón Ramírez would be on a similar contract condition. The talk was about £45,000 per week but I reckon that will include bonuses. That is about £10M over his 4 year contract and sounds more likely. That's interesting, and I guess could partly explain how difficult Saints have found it to sign players in this last transfer window, if potential recruits didn't think they might be getting much in bonuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 That's interesting, and I guess could partly explain how difficult Saints have found it to sign players in this last transfer window, if potential recruits didn't think they might be getting much in bonuses. We had a circa £30m net spend bringing in 8 players, which was the 7th highest net spend in the whole of European football this summer. So wasn't that bad a summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonroader07 Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 Dont kid ya selves nobody knows what they are paid, it is all speculation ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintmatt Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 Dont kid ya selves nobody knows what they are paid, it is all speculation ffs Surely this warrants a new thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dick Last Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 I was told at the weekend the players gave up their bonuses for promotion from league 1 and if they achieved promotion from the championship they would have their wages doubled. Nice if correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 A big part of Southampton Player wages are based on bonuses and if the past is anything to go by they will not be straight forward. I believe last season almost half the wages were bonus related. Win bonuses were only 100% when the team was in the top two (which was a great incentive by Cortese as they never dropped out of that paramenter) If they had the bonuses were reduced to about 60% I suspect similar restrictions over league position, although tailored to meet our present requirements of maintaining our league status at the end of the season. I would imagine Gastón Ramírez would be on a similar contract condition. The talk was about £45,000 per week but I reckon that will include bonuses. That is about £10M over his 4 year contract and sounds more likely. Rumour i've heard on the grape vine is exactly this, ie 10Million over 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 25 September, 2012 Share Posted 25 September, 2012 However, as someone has highlighted Rickie Lambert (above) I think IMHO ...for someone who worked in a beetroot-packing factory.... and made his way through four leagues ....and has become a star attraction in the Prem...I don't begrudge him one penny of whatever he's on. He's earned it all, and given a many of us a great deal of joy. Well done Rickie. Was genuinely buzzing when I saw him get his dues on MOTD. Saints legend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonist Posted 16 June, 2013 Share Posted 16 June, 2013 I know that Fourpast is on 2 packets of pork scratchings & free pair of goalie gloves a week. what for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 June, 2013 Share Posted 16 June, 2013 This thread went extremely badly for Mr Wrong didn't it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken With A Banjo Posted 16 June, 2013 Share Posted 16 June, 2013 Yes. For all that you claim to be knowledgeable about football, you seem to actually know very little. Brazilian football has had a ridiculous amount of money thrown at it in recent years, hence why players like Neymar are happy to stay and play in their domestic league rather than take the first available offer from Europe. It's also why the likes of Clarence Seedorf have chosen to join the Brazilian league rather than go to the middle east for a last big payday. Clarence seedorf went to Brazil because his wife is Brazilian and she wanted to go home, not because of any huge wages on offer. Neymar and other south Americans are reluctant to leave because of the lifestyle and their families. Prices in Brazil are rising of course, but a modest footballing wage will still go an awful lot further in Brazil than it would in Europe. There is no need for south american clubs to pay huge wages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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