GAS Posted 21 September, 2012 Share Posted 21 September, 2012 Smoking is a mugs game but enjoyable, same as having a beer or a coffee - we all need some type of drug (except boring smug *****). The real crime is tobacco firms giving out free fags in the developing world when demand in the developed world dropped. Proof of the addictive qualities of cigarettes IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 21 September, 2012 Share Posted 21 September, 2012 Never smoked until I was 18, got p!ssed at my mate's birthday and had a few smokes. Didn't do it again until my 19th birthday a few months after I started uni. Only smoked when I was drinking (pretty much every day in my first year!), but it became a regular thing after that. Probably on about 10 a day now, triple that on a footy day. It helps me tbh. Having a fag break at work helps me to relax and get my motivation back up. When I come home from work I can sit outside with my housemates and have a coffee, a cigarette and a chat. And nothing beats a pre-match pint and fag. It may be expensive and unhealthy, but i'm not particularly worried about that now (although i'm sure I will be in the future!). I plan on giving up when I have kids or a serious reason not to smoke anymore. I don't quite get how people can be all sanctimonious over it though. Fair enough, you've never had a cigarette. So what? It doesn't make you a better or worse person whether you smoke or not. People say smoking burdens the NHS, but i'm sure there's plenty of alcoholics or brawlers out there who don't smoke that put much more of a burden on our health system than I do. I'm quite libertarian in the way that I don't care what people do to their own bodies as long as it's not directly harming others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 24 September, 2012 Share Posted 24 September, 2012 I would like your choice to be freely taken without being driven by addiction, for your own sake. I would not like to see anybody inflicting self-harm in any form even if they said that they enjoyed it. All I ask is that you understand the process by which you get effective pleasure, it comes from feeding the addiction. My point about banging your head was that it was like going without the smoke and having a craving. When you stop doing it (banging or going without) it feels good. Some of us get plenty of serotonin from just sitting in the garden reading the paper. For the non-smoker life feels great all the time, not just when they are having a fix. still dont get the brick wall thing. but I studied a level biology and even had an anti smoking teacher, so u can't break me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 24 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 24 September, 2012 Never smoked until I was 18, got p!ssed at my mate's birthday and had a few smokes. Didn't do it again until my 19th birthday a few months after I started uni. Only smoked when I was drinking (pretty much every day in my first year!), but it became a regular thing after that. Probably on about 10 a day now, triple that on a footy day. It helps me tbh. Having a fag break at work helps me to relax and get my motivation back up. When I come home from work I can sit outside with my housemates and have a coffee, a cigarette and a chat. And nothing beats a pre-match pint and fag. It may be expensive and unhealthy, but i'm not particularly worried about that now (although i'm sure I will be in the future!). I plan on giving up when I have kids or a serious reason not to smoke anymore. I don't quite get how people can be all sanctimonious over it though. Fair enough, you've never had a cigarette. So what? It doesn't make you a better or worse person whether you smoke or not. People say smoking burdens the NHS, but i'm sure there's plenty of alcoholics or brawlers out there who don't smoke that put much more of a burden on our health system than I do. I'm quite libertarian in the way that I don't care what people do to their own bodies as long as it's not directly harming others. I do like the 'rebelliousness' of smoking, and I have had more interesting chats with people in the smoking area than in the 'regular'pub. With all the facts available, people who smoke are mostly f-ups and possibly slightly interesting for it. As time goes by, I guess equating addiction with nicotine and being 'interesting' will become less interesting. I'm much more likely to meet a (easy) bird in the smokers area than the regular pub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 24 September, 2012 Share Posted 24 September, 2012 It's a hideous disgusting habit and unfortunately yes I smoke. I smoke two or three cigarettes a day but it's been a slow progression up to that from only smoking on weekends a few years ago . I am addicted and even if I do smoke very little as is the case I still think it's revolting and want more than anything to quit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 September, 2012 Share Posted 24 September, 2012 It's a hideous disgusting habit and unfortunately yes I smoke. I smoke two or three cigarettes a day but it's been a slow progression up to that from only smoking on weekends a few years ago . I am addicted and even if I do smoke very little as is the case I still think it's revolting and want more than anything to quit. If you truly want to quit (and it sounds like you do) then give this book a try. It's worked for millions of people, and worked for me. Really easy reading, its not a lecture by any means at all, but it completely and utterly changes the way you think about smoking. I used it when I quit smoking (after more than 10 years on the fags), I stayed completely clean for around 4 to 5 years. I lapsed for around 18 months or so but quit again in June, after reading parts of the book again. Even for those who have no intention of quitting its a really interesting read; as I say it doesn't seek to lecture you in any way at all (and even encourages those trying to quit that they should continue smoking while they're reading the book until they're ready to stop). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpbury Posted 24 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 24 September, 2012 If you truly want to quit (and it sounds like you do) then give this book a try. It's worked for millions of people, and worked for me. Really easy reading, its not a lecture by any means at all, but it completely and utterly changes the way you think about smoking. I used it when I quit smoking (after more than 10 years on the fags), I stayed completely clean for around 4 to 5 years. I lapsed for around 18 months or so but quit again in June, after reading parts of the book again. Even for those who have no intention of quitting its a really interesting read; as I say it doesn't seek to lecture you in any way at all (and even encourages those trying to quit that they should continue smoking while they're reading the book until they're ready to stop). I 'did ' this book and failed. Went for hypnosis and it worked a charmfor a year. He also did a book about beating booze which my brother bought into - he has given up fags and booze by applying techniques in this book. I remain addicted to fags and booze, but still have an open mind that I can live without them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 24 September, 2012 Share Posted 24 September, 2012 I do like the 'rebelliousness' of smoking, and I have had more interesting chats with people in the smoking area than in the 'regular'pub. With all the facts available, people who smoke are mostly f-ups and possibly slightly interesting for it. As time goes by, I guess equating addiction with nicotine and being 'interesting' will become less interesting. I'm much more likely to meet a (easy) bird in the smokers area than the regular pub. When I was but a callow youth, thats exactly what I found. Birds who smoked were always much more, ahem, accommodating than their non-smoking friends. My theory is that if a girl is unconcerned about probably the most important aspect of her health, well, she isn't likely to balk at much else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 24 September, 2012 Share Posted 24 September, 2012 I 'did ' this book and failed. Went for hypnosis and it worked a charmfor a year. He also did a book about beating booze which my brother bought into - he has given up fags and booze by applying techniques in this book. I remain addicted to fags and booze, but still have an open mind that I can live without them! I'm sure there's plenty of others the book hasn't worked for, too. But nonetheless I think it is successful about changing one's perceptions of smoking. Even when I went back to smoking after 4 or 5 years off I felt I understood it a lot better, and that made it really easy to quit again in June (not had a smoke since and not missing it one little bit). The book costs less than a tenner so its at least worth a try, before having to resort to more costly remedies such as hypnotism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guided Missile Posted 24 September, 2012 Share Posted 24 September, 2012 Gave up smoking 30 years ago cold turkey, after getting through 3 packs a day when I was on shifts at Fawley. Wasn't the hardest thing I've ever done. Getting off morphine was far harder.. I personally think smoking in private should be encouraged as a method of population control. I am pretty sure that the demographics of an aging population will be a real burden in the future and there aren't the wars, disease and famine there once were, unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCholulaKid Posted 24 September, 2012 Share Posted 24 September, 2012 Gave up about 4 years ago. Never a massive smoker but used to love it. Especially during drug-fuelled allnighters. Easily do 40-60 on one of those. Loved it. Glad I stopped though. Filthy habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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