ToreSF Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I would say two and a half year. If we aren't a mid table premier league club by then, we should look for someone else. Fits in well with the five year plan to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I'm of the opinion that, even if we were to get relegated, I'd stick with the manager. For a number of reasons: - He's done a brilliant job to get us promoted twice in successive seasons. - The quality of football we're playing is decent, and at times we look a very good side. - The weaknesses in goal and in defence were addressed by the manager at the start of the transfer window and not adequately covered by the transfer committee. - If we did go down this season, I can't think of a manager better equipped to get us back up again at the first time of asking (look at HollowHead at Blackpool). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 17 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I'm of the opinion that, even if we were to get relegated, I'd stick with the manager. For a number of reasons: - He's done a brilliant job to get us promoted twice in successive seasons. - The quality of football we're playing is decent, and at times we look a very good side. - The weaknesses in goal and in defence were addressed by the manager at the start of the transfer window and not adequately covered by the transfer committee. - If we did go down this season, I can't think of a manager better equipped to get us back up again at the first time of asking (look at HollowHead at Blackpool). Completly agree. My only worry if we go down is that we might lose our best prospects, like Shaw, Ward Prowse, Ramirez and so on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flickjax Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I'm of the opinion that, even if we were to get relegated, I'd stick with the manager. For a number of reasons: - He's done a brilliant job to get us promoted twice in successive seasons. - The quality of football we're playing is decent, and at times we look a very good side. - The weaknesses in goal and in defence were addressed by the manager at the start of the transfer window and not adequately covered by the transfer committee. - If we did go down this season, I can't think of a manager better equipped to get us back up again at the first time of asking (look at HollowHead at Blackpool). This, spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 So why can't this question be asked on one of the other couple of threads about Adkins? How many more threads do we need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Completly agree. My only worry if we go down is that we might lose our best prospects, like Shaw, Ward Prowse, Ramirez and so on. Blackpool didn't lose Ince & Phillips; we would have more financial clout than them anyway, plus the parachute payments in place mean we wouldn't need to sell (so even if we did lose players we'd still be able to attract a decent fee for them). We'd lose Ramirez, and probably Lallana, but would get in enough in transfer fees to regroup for another tilt at the title. As we found out, with the right manager it doesn't take an enormous amount of money to build a promotion winning squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I can't think of a manager better equipped to get us back up again at the first time of asking (look at HollowHead at Blackpool). What's that thing people say when they're pointing out something bout a post being suspect or whatever. You know, with the owl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambol2K9 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I'm of the opinion that, even if we were to get relegated, I'd stick with the manager. For a number of reasons: - He's done a brilliant job to get us promoted twice in successive seasons. - The quality of football we're playing is decent, and at times we look a very good side. - The weaknesses in goal and in defence were addressed by the manager at the start of the transfer window and not adequately covered by the transfer committee. - If we did go down this season, I can't think of a manager better equipped to get us back up again at the first time of asking (look at HollowHead at Blackpool). Couldn't agree more. I would rather be relegated than lose Adkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 (edited) Fully agree with The Kraken, which is why, this post apart, I personally don't see the point in adding to any threads that cast any kind of doubt on his tenure. I know the vast majority of people are discussing it only because they wonder what Cortese is thinking, but I think the more we discuss it, the more credence it gives his potential removal and I just think that would be utterly ridiculous. If we are truly building something for the future, then lets just do that, and not add to speculation after just 4 games, or indeed after ANY run of results, good or bad. Edited 17 September, 2012 by Minty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Personally I don't think it is about time as such but more about his decisions. Adkins is a top guy and has done well with us but you have to look at the bigger picture. He has got us promoted but that was the bare minimum expected from him. Pardew rebuilt the club and brought in the players who got us promoted. He was fired coz he failed to take us up. To say you would rather be relegated to me just sounds daft. This club is bigger then anyone individual and that includes Adkins. In some of the games he has made bad decisions which have cost us. You have to remember he is learning too. But if we go on a bad run and are playing **** then I don't see how keeping him actually benefits the club? He has spent £30m this window. Possibly more then we have spent in the entire time we were out of the pl. Its a lot of money. If we are at around Xmas and we look as good as down then I don't see the point in keeping him on. If he isn't the one to take us onto the next level then so be it. I think we will do alright though. We have had a tough start and these threads are a bit silly. We all need to keep positive and stick together. Adkins is the best guy for the job right now and deserves at least until Xmas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 17 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Fair enough, I admit it could been posted elsewhere. Its just that I sometimes get the impression from reading on this forum that the consensus among the fans is that they are unhappy with the management. Glad to see that the case is the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I get the feeling of LOWE syndrome. We have all heard countless mumblings about who is actually making the decisions. - The system - The players in - The players leaving - The players that Adkins wanted - Didn't come. I hope I am way off but how much influence does Reed and Cortese have I wonder. I am sure I will get stamped on but I really don't give a ****. I am only voicing a thought and nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 We have just gained back to back promotions, to survive after that would be astonishing. If relegation happens this year he should be given the chance to take us up at the first attempt, he has earned the right to try. The grass isn't always greener elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 We have just gained back to back promotions, to survive after that would be astonishing. If relegation happens this year he should be given the chance to take us up at the first attempt, he has earned the right to try. Don't agree... We are here. We are the 7th biggest spenders in Europe..... If we are Rock bottom come end November I fully expect adkins to be gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 We have just gained back to back promotions, to survive after that would be astonishing. If relegation happens this year he should be given the chance to take us up at the first attempt, he has earned the right to try. The grass isn't always greener elsewhere. maybe that's what should happen, it won't though. I'd think if we lose against Villa he's a goner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I like Adkins, but I reckon he's gonna have to perform miracles to still be in this job next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 maybe that's what should happen, it won't though. I'd think if we lose against Villa he's a goner. Yeah that wouldn't surprise me at all. I don't think it's right, but then I spose i don't really get a vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Yeah that wouldn't surprise me at all. I don't think it's right, but then I spose i don't really get a vote. You might have noticed that SFC is no longer run as a Greek Democracy. Now if we had a fan on the board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Should get until the end of this season at least. If we stay up, but only just, I expect him to leave and a more experienced man to come in and help us kick on for a second season. If we go down, it wouldnt surprise me if he stays as IMO, there is no better manager about for promotions. Sounds odd but that's how I think it'll go. See Rafa Benitez's name is being bandied about today in a few places. 20/1 to come in IF Adkins gets sacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 (edited) To get relegated from the premier league would be a disaster for this club,you seem to overlook the fact that the squad have now tasted premier league football and are on good money because of it.if we were to get relegated then they won't hang about,they will be very happy to get cherry picked by another club who would be willing to continue to pay them good money,they won't hang around through sentiment. You would probably also find that the liebher family would withdraw the significant funding that they have been giving generously up until now,ok we will have the parachute payment but that didn't help us the last time we were relegated,in fact we really struggled with life in the championship. Staying in the premiership has to be the priority,nothing else matters and if that means parting company with the manager then so be it......cortese knows that and he's no fool,if the results are still not good enough by nov/dec then I expect nothing else but Adkins to be sacked,this would give the new fella time to turn it around and also a transfer window to bring in some decent players. What is the point in struggling on blindly hoping that he can get it right. Edited 17 September, 2012 by lordswoodsaints Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Don't agree... We are here. We are the 7th biggest spenders in Europe..... If we are Rock bottom come end November I fully expect adkins to be gone Do you think he should go in that scenario? I mean, being realistic, if we lose every game until then, then yes, he should probably go. But say our form picks up a little, we're still in the bottom three but have a win or two under our belts; do you think he should be fired then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Fans who are saying keep adkins no matter what... Will change their tune watching us get beat most weeks... And a few more at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Do you think he should go in that scenario? I mean, being realistic, if we lose every game until then, then yes, he should probably go. But say our form picks up a little, we're still in the bottom three but have a win or two under our belts; do you think he should be fired then? Depends on the circumstances... If adkins were to make bizarre decisions and lose us games then yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 To get relegated from the premier league would be a disaster for this club,you seem to overlook the fact that the squad have now tasted premier league football and are on good money because of it.if we were to get relegated then they won't hang about,they will be very happy to get cherry picked by another club who would be willing to continue to pay them good money,they won't hang around through sentiment. You would probably also find that the liebher family would withdraw the significant funding that they have been giving generously up until now,ok we will have the parachute payment but that didn't help us the last time we were relegated,in fact we really struggled with life in the championship. Staying in the premiership has to be the priority,nothing else matters and if that means parting company with the manager then so be it......cortese knows that and he's no fool,if the results are still not good enough by nov/dec then I expect nothing else but Adkins to be sacked,this would give the new fella time to turn it around and also a transfer window to bring in some decent players. What is the point in struggling on blindly hoping that he can get it right. You assume all our players would leave; some would but not as many as you may think. Look at West Ham; they kept a lot of their side in place after relegation and it paid dividends, they were promoted straight away. If that happened to us, it would still be within the 5 year plan. I don't believe we'd lose an enormous amount of players, we'd lose Ramirez and probably Lallana, maybe 1 or 2 others. But (I'd hope) we'd be in a financial position to resist low-ball offers and maximise returns from outgoing players, while still retaining a core of a squad who could give promotion a proper tilt (whilst allowing us to bring in 2 or 3 to replace those leaving). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Fans who are saying keep adkins no matter what... Will change their tune watching us get beat most weeks... And a few more at home That's just conjecture. If he personally makes mistakes then yes, probably. If the team (and in particular the defence) keep making mistakes to cost us games then I'm more inclined to blame our failure to strengthen where truly required. The team has let the manager down a bit so far; the Arsenal performance was entirely down to individual mistakes and not a reflection on the manager. The Man Utd game; great tactics to get us to 2-1, less so to allow us to give it away (although precipitated again by individual player error). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 In don't entirely agree... The system we play and the tactics we employ play as much as individuals errors.... IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 We should sack the manager every time we lose a game. They'd soon learn IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 In don't entirely agree... The system we play and the tactics we employ play as much as individuals errors.... IMO I disagree. Against Wigan I'm not sure the tactics were right, at least as the game progressed (we started quite well). I can't fault the Man city game, United we were 5 minutes from an epic result (even a draw would have been very good), yesterday just a p*ss poor performance from too many players. In any case, the true measure starts now. Wigan, a let down. Our next 3 games are against sides where we've kind of got to expect to take points from, and the performance levels will allow us to see where we are. I'd hope Cortese recognises this and at the very, very least gives NA the next 3 games before he makes a decision; somehow I don't think he will, and NA will be judged on the result against Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I disagree. Against Wigan I'm not sure the tactics were right, at least as the game progressed (we started quite well). I can't fault the Man city game, United we were 5 minutes from an epic result (even a draw would have been very good), yesterday just a p*ss poor performance from too many players. In any case, the true measure starts now. Wigan, a let down. Our next 3 games are against sides where we've kind of got to expect to take points from, and the performance levels will allow us to see where we are. I'd hope Cortese recognises this and at the very, very least gives NA the next 3 games before he makes a decision; somehow I don't think he will, and NA will be judged on the result against Villa. We just said the exact same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 We just said the exact same thing. Yeah, I think a lot of people are suddenly a bit fearful that NA has one more game to save his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 You assume all our players would leave; some would but not as many as you may think. Look at West Ham; they kept a lot of their side in place after relegation and it paid dividends, they were promoted straight away. If that happened to us, it would still be within the 5 year plan. I don't believe we'd lose an enormous amount of players, we'd lose Ramirez and probably Lallana, maybe 1 or 2 others. But (I'd hope) we'd be in a financial position to resist low-ball offers and maximise returns from outgoing players, while still retaining a core of a squad who could give promotion a proper tilt (whilst allowing us to bring in 2 or 3 to replace those leaving). I'm certain that we would lose Ramirez,lallana,lambert,cork,Morgan,ward prowse and maybe even more,that leaves us with older players and fringe players so would mean rebuilding which takes time. Why not put your efforts into staying up,ok we could get a new man in and still get relegated but at least cortese can turn around and say he tried,to actually do nothing and continue flogging a dead horse would be stupid IMO. I don't think cortese is stupid enough to just carry on,I'm certain that he would act quickly if we were badly struggling and tbh I would expect it to be a swift decision. I like Adkins and I am praying that he gets it right because if he does then that means my team is doing well and I'm happy but if he can't sort out the problems then I also expect him to be sacked,that's just football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Yeah, I think a lot of people are suddenly a bit fearful that NA has one more game to save his job. I reckon he has two..... Dunno why. But if the villa home is a poor performance with a defeat then maybe it will be it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csh398 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I am of the opinion, that if anything Adkins is too good for our team, as current playing staff seem to not be quite up to the task. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I am of the opinion, that if anything Adkins is too good for our team, as current playing staff seem to not be quite up to the task. Obviously daft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc1976 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 If Cortese wants rid after the Villa game (assuming a defeat) he might as well wait until after the Everton game. As sure as night follows day we get beat up there. That way he might take less abuse from the press for dumping old Nige after a 6th straight defeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Best examples : Man Utd Arsenal Everton Stoke Wigan Worst examples : Teams that change their manager every year or so (too many to list)! You can exclude Man City and Chelsea as they throw silly money away, but generally speaking there is no advantage whatsoever in having a medium/long term plan and then changing manager after a run of bad results IMO ! Look at Wolves last year, they were in a relegation dogfight, sacked McCarthy and things went from bad to worse ! The football world today is full of idiots who think that the solution to every short term problem is to sack the manager. It may serve to appease the mob but does nothing to achieve longer term stability for the club ! All IMHO of course ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csh398 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Obviously daft Yes, judging by some of your posts you certainly are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Stick with NA...I agree with Kraken. My only doubt is that if we have a kicking all season that NA will be 'shot to bits' and may himself not be in the right frame of mind for next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Best examples : Man Utd Arsenal Everton Stoke Wigan Worst examples : Teams that change their manager every year or so (too many to list)! You can exclude Man City and Chelsea as they throw silly money away, but generally speaking there is no advantage whatsoever in having a medium/long term plan and then changing manager after a run of bad results IMO ! Look at Wolves last year, they were in a relegation dogfight, sacked McCarthy and things went from bad to worse ! The football world today is full of idiots who think that the solution to every short term problem is to sack the manager. It may serve to appease the mob but does nothing to achieve longer term stability for the club ! All IMHO of course ! But would wolves have done any better if they hadn't sacked McCarthy?,at least they tried to give themselves a chance.....worth the gamble and all that. I'd hold up spurs as a good example of a club that has maintained their top flight status even though they change their manager regularly,in fact,since we got promoted together in the 70's they have had a total of 24 managers to our 22 and they have been a fairly stable club,maintaining their top flight status,occasionally flirting with the big boys and playing some good football......so I would say that changing your manager is nothing to be afraid of,in fact it should be embraced as sometimes it can do wonders to have a change,so it really is a myth that constantly changing your manager is the wrong thing to do to gain success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I can hardly believe this thread. Are people seriously trying to tell me that whatever our results - even if we're pointless at Xmas and getting beat 6-1 every game - that they'd still want the manager to keep his job regardless ? While I can kinda admire the piety of such a extreme standpoint - in a somewhat otherworldly kind of way - this view bares bugger all relationship to the great game of professional football as we have come to know it. In my experience Human nature dictates that when you give someone what is in effect a 'Licence to Fail' then, like any other type of licence, there's a pretty good chance that licence is going to be taken advantage of. Away from the gleaming Ivory Towers of SWF, back in the real world of big money and high pressure Premier League football, Nigel Adkins has to find a way of getting his team to perform, just like any every other football manager in this situation would. And judging from my reading of the situation he better start doing that pretty damn quick I'd say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Best examples : Man Utd Arsenal Everton Stoke Wigan Worst examples : Teams that change their manager every year or so (too many to list)! You can exclude Man City and Chelsea as they throw silly money away, but generally speaking there is no advantage whatsoever in having a medium/long term plan and then changing manager after a run of bad results IMO ! Look at Wolves last year, they were in a relegation dogfight, sacked McCarthy and things went from bad to worse ! The football world today is full of idiots who think that the solution to every short term problem is to sack the manager. It may serve to appease the mob but does nothing to achieve longer term stability for the club ! All IMHO of course ! Thing there homes is recognising when you've got a good manager. I'm saying all them years ago if Man Utd had appointed like Branfoot as manager it wouldn't of served them to stick with him for 30 years or whatever. I guess you keep hopping manager till you find the real deal. Either that or randomly sack people every 6 months like Chelsea. Is NA the real deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 If you lose by the odd goal it could hide deeper problems. Lose convincingly to to Villa........3/4-0. New manager I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Personally would let Adkins take us down and be given the opportunity to take us back up. But given the resources he's been given and what I think Cortese is expecting, he's going to have to start winning, at very least four points from next three games. Minimum or I think he's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I'm of the opinion that, even if we were to get relegated, I'd stick with the manager. For a number of reasons: - He's done a brilliant job to get us promoted twice in successive seasons. - The quality of football we're playing is decent, and at times we look a very good side. - The weaknesses in goal and in defence were addressed by the manager at the start of the transfer window and not adequately covered by the transfer committee. - If we did go down this season, I can't think of a manager better equipped to get us back up again at the first time of asking (look at HollowHead at Blackpool). Yes, 100%. The only thing I would add, is if we have a 'new' five year plan to establish ourselves as a Prem club (as has been hinted following our rapid rise), how much does it matter how we achieve that? If we survive this season and establish ourselves from now on, it's job done. If we get relegated this season, promoted the next, survive the one after and establish ourselves from there, it's still job done, just a much more painful job done! You learn by your mistakes and you learn with experience. I'm sure Adkins is learning a heck of a lot right now that will be put to good use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 But we could down and remain down for another 7 years.... Right now we are in the prem and everything should be done to remain there.... If adkins comes up short then so be it..... He will have to go. Hope not though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I must admit, I'm a bit disappointed with Adkins this season. Dropping Ricky v City, changing formations v Wigan (which he concedes was a mistake), those 3 substitutions v Utd, and the team playing too deep on Saturday. Add to that the set-piece defending (zonal which isn't working), and the shape of the team defensively (full backs too tight with the centre backs). If he keeps making mistakes it will cost us more points. If he learns from them we could be OK. We have played some lovely football at times this season, against top class opposition, and he must take credit for that. I think Cortese is sharpening his knife. Nigel seems to me like a man who knows what's coming (my impression of his BBC interview after Arsenal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junction 9 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I'm of the opinion that, even if we were to get relegated, I'd stick with the manager. For a number of reasons: - He's done a brilliant job to get us promoted twice in successive seasons. - The quality of football we're playing is decent, and at times we look a very good side. - The weaknesses in goal and in defence were addressed by the manager at the start of the transfer window and not adequately covered by the transfer committee. - If we did go down this season, I can't think of a manager better equipped to get us back up again at the first time of asking (look at HollowHead at Blackpool). Holloway hasn't managed to get Blackpool back to the Prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Holloway hasn't managed to get Blackpool back to the Prem. I think that was the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Holloway hasn't managed to get Blackpool back to the Prem. I'm aware of that. My point was that Blackpool have stuck with Holloway, they were fairly decent last year and made the playoffs, they look like mounting a decent challenge this season. This from a side who aren't exactly huge, but they've managed to keep the bulk of their team together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I'm aware of that. My point was that Blackpool have stuck with Holloway, they were fairly decent last year and made the playoffs, they look like mounting a decent challenge this season. This from a side who aren't exactly huge, but they've managed to keep the bulk of their team together. Then again wolves have not stuck with Terry conner. West Ham? What happens at one club bears little comparison to another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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