Colinjb Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 With the league taking form who are our direct competitors? It's my own feeling that we are in nothing more then a relegation battle so who will be scrapping with us? Reading will be down there, as will Norwich. Any other takers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 Reading are an embarrassment. Awful fans and they now have a trumpet at home games.. It's laughable how tinpot they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 Wet Sham, Villa, maybe West Brom and Perennial hotpicks Wigan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 West Ham are pretty woeful, they will drop down once they have a tougher run of fixtures. Wigan another. Also be interesting to see what Swansea do this season having lost a couple of key players and Taylor out injured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 Reading are an embarrassment. Awful fans and they now have a trumpet at home games.. It's laughable how tinpot they are. Whatever else they might be, they are above us in the league. I have more time for a "tinpot" Reading fan, than a plastic manc, arse fan, or any scouse fan in perpetual mourning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 West Ham are pretty woeful Didn't look to woeful to me when they were spanking a decent Fulham side just before the international break. They'll get enough points at home to keep them away from trouble, and whilst injured at the moment they have somebody in Carroll who will score goals in this league and suits their style of play down to the ground. West Ham will comfortably survive IMO. Main rivals for us IMO are Reading, Wigan and Norwich. Villa could be dragged into it, got a very young team and a bad run of results could see them struggle for confidence. They do have a proven Prem goalscorer up front though. Swansea have looked very good so far up til yesterday, lost a few good players in the summer but replaced them with the bargain of the summer. If Michu were to get injured I could see them being down there, but think they'll be alright. If asked to predict now I'd have Saints, Reading and Norwich going down with Wigan again surviving by the skin of their teeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 bale scores. 2-0 completely free around the penalty area this could have been 5-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 make that 3-0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 Gorkks, the lynchpin of our defense in a parallel universe - touch of the fonte about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 16 September, 2012 0-3. Yes, Reading will be struggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 0-3. Yes, Reading will be struggling. We will finish above them....even if that is 2nd from bottom lol if we can learn to be tighter at the back, we have far more fire power to worry teams than they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 (edited) What are they singing?? Tell me 'the spurs' haven't nicked OUR song... Edited 16 September, 2012 by Avenue Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 reading...2 attempts and 0 on target....at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 reading score a consolation...their 2nd only attempt on target....and the brass band pipes up lol they have been utterly crap today..gives me hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 Spuds switch off going into stoppage time and let one in. Doesn't hide the fact that Reading have been awful, could easily have been a 6-1 if Spuds weren't so wasteful with their chances. 20 odd shots to Reading's 3 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 September, 2012 Share Posted 16 September, 2012 Spuds switch off going into stoppage time and let one in. Doesn't hide the fact that Reading have been awful, could easily have been a 6-1 if Spuds weren't so wasteful with their chances. 20 odd shots to Reading's 3 I think. that is what happened in the NPC with reading..remember the games we played against them at ours..when they played brighton and away to west ham...difference being, we (and the others) were more wasteful and they were more clinical (against poorer defenders) with their few chances.....they really camp 10 men behind the ball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 We're going to finish comfortably mid-table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 We will finish 8th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersubpuckett Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 it'll be between us, qpr, reading, wigan and norwich Wet sham look too strong and allerdyce knows what he's doing in this league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 What about Liverpool - what's to say they have what it takes long term? They're not doing so well in relation to their squad right now are they? Ah, but they will come good I hear you say...well what's to stop us going on a run now and moving up the table? It's quite an unpredictable league this year I feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 it'll be between us, qpr, reading, wigan and norwich Wet sham look too strong and allerdyce knows what he's doing in this league Add Swansea & WBA as well. They've made decent starts but they've got new managers and some shiete players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 What are they singing?? Tell me 'the spurs' haven't nicked OUR song... They have, and it irritates me no end. Even the commentator said they were singing the White Hart Lane favourite. GRRRR. Imbeciles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 reading score a consolation...their 2nd only attempt on target....and the brass band pipes up lol they have been utterly crap today..gives me hope. They'll still beat us. At least they had drive and determination, and pressed the oppo. Oh, and they haven't got an invisible keeper. Or Danny 'worst player in the league' Fox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 If we don't finish above Reading then we will be bottom. They are awful. We actually have looked a threat vs the top teams we have played (obviously less so vs Arsenal). They didn't really muster any sort of shot vs Spurs who are good going forward but not the best defensive team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danbert Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Only three of the teams in the bottom half of the league have actually won a game. There's no need to panic yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 They'll still beat us. At least they had drive and determination, and pressed the oppo. Oh, and they haven't got an invisible keeper. Or Danny 'worst player in the league' Fox. Is that a joke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Reading are an embarrassment. Awful fans and they now have a trumpet at home games.. It's laughable how tinpot they are. Embarrassment? Why so? Because you say so? Enlighten me....I am married to one, I have lots of Reading fans as friends too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Reading fans are an embarrassment to be fair. They are just awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edprice1984 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 I don't have a problem with Reading or their supporters. Yes it was funny when they all came out of the woodwork at the end of last season, but tbf I have met lots of 'Saints' fans in and around Gloucester since we were promoted that were nowhere to be seen two years ago! The only set of supporters (other than the Skates) that I really have no time for are the Plastic Mancs who refer to themselves as the collective 'WE' when discussing Utd and the teams results/performances. You know that these people have not even set foot in Manchester, let alone been to a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 (edited) Look at the current bottom half of the table, take Newcastle and Liverpool out of there and you have the teams we need to be beating. Swansea and West Ham are flying higher than they should be, but should be fine. Even thought I would love to see them go down (in debt but stills spending, terrible football style, don't like the manager, arrogant fans) West Ham have enough to avoid the drop in my opinion. They have some big strong players like Carroll, Diame etc, they work there arses off. They score set pieces, they have some experienced players like Nolan and they have a better defence than us. With Allardyce and the players he has brought in, they are very set up for the lower mid table obscurity for the next few seasons imo, they will never be more than that though. So you are left with:- Reading - only 1 pt so far, about as defensively poor as us, worse going forward than us IMO. QPR - A miss match of a team, full of 'has beens' and 'maybes'. Their defence is 'experienced' but still looks weak, they have a lot of injury prone players and some players who are very inconsistent. You also have to question their team spirit with all those high wages, egos etc. Norwich - Watched them on Saturday and they had a very 'workman' like feel to them, plenty of graft and spirit, short on quality, again like us not great defensively. Wigan - already beaten us, but apart from that not been great, got thrashed by Man Utd. Good manager, with interesting tactics. Wonder where the goals will come from though. Sunderland - Their fans would probably think it's harsh to include them as relegation candidates, but I think their squad is poor. Back line of Brown, Bramble, O'Shea and Bardsley doesn't inspire confidence and I think they will rely heavily on Sessegnon staying fit. Aston Villa - Young inexperienced squad, fans who expect more so could on top of the team. Will rely heavily on Bent staying fit and getting the goals and an aging Dunne at the back. They need more out of Nzogbia and Ireland. Stoke - Surprise inclusion maybe, but they haven't won in 10 now, 4 draws, beaten by Swindon in the Cup (reserve team I know). They will always be strong at home, but more likely because they 'upset' one of the big boys. Personally I don't think they score enough goals which could cause them trouble. I think they rely too much on not getting beaten than actually going out to win games. Edited 17 September, 2012 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Reading, us, Norwich, Villa and Sunderland will be down there IMO. WBA and Fulham could easily slip into it if they get a couple of injuries. Would love Liverpool to stay in and around the bottom but it probably won't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Should the title of this thread not be 'the teams just above us" cos there's no one on one side of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Funny old thing Gary Neville says we had decent shape and defended decently as a team but for a sensational arsenal and a couple of own goals and individual errors from Clyne and Fonte....... You get punished at the Emirates. Top teams will get punished there Also he says we defended better than reading..... A lot better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Funny old thing Gary Neville says we had decent shape and defended decently as a team but for a sensational arsenal and a couple of own goals and individual errors from Clyne and Fonte....... You get punished at the Emirates. Top teams will get punished there Also he says we defended better than reading..... A lot better Mind if I borrow that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teacher Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Funny old thing Gary Neville says we had decent shape and defended decently as a team but for a sensational arsenal and a couple of own goals and individual errors from Clyne and Fonte....... You get punished at the Emirates. Top teams will get punished there Also he says we defended better than reading..... A lot better Funny thing is that it was Yoshida who lost his man not Fonte! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Funny thing is that it was Yoshida who lost his man not Fonte! Errr... He said the problem was the huuuuuge gap Fonte left behind Yoshida... With Yoshida caught marking his man and an eye in the gap Fonte left him. Neville knows his shyt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 What are they singing?? Tell me 'the spurs' haven't nicked OUR song... Are you talking about the slow version of "OWTSGMI" which we nicked back off them in the mid 2000s after we stopped doing it for ages at St Mary's and they showed us how to sing it properly ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Errr... He said the problem was the huuuuuge gap Fonte left behind Yoshida... With Yoshida caught marking his man and an eye in the gap Fonte left him. Neville knows his shyt Yeah, Neville talked about the old back 4 on a rope analogy and showed that Fonte should have split the gap to Yoshida with Clyne basically being where Fonte was and Puncheon worrying about Gibbs who Clyne was covering - Fonte was then too far away from Gervinho to get across and influence play, Yoshida got spun by Gervinho a bit easily, couldn't get back and Kelv got done at the near post by a shot he probably didn't even see. My question was where was the pressure on the midfielder who played the pass that time, and how did Podolski manage to lose 3 of them and find 10 yards of space just by not falling over before rolling it out wide for the first ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Are you talking about the slow version of "OWTSGMI" which we nicked back off them in the mid 2000s after we stopped doing it for ages at St Mary's and they showed us how to sing it properly ? Let them come down to SMS... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Let them come down to SMS... They were singing it better than our hyperspeed version for ages, arguably theirs is still better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Saw Reading yesterday and they are truly horrific. Whilst their midfield & defence haven't really worked out what they're doing yet and look devoid of pace (like ours), they don't have a Lambert or Ramirez to call upon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Strover Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 ....and Kelv got done at the near post by a shot he probably didn't even see..... Oooh. Sounds to me that an ex-professional football who seems to be admired far and wide for his fairness, tactical nous and impartiality implies that Kelvin wasn't entirely to blame as much as all the football experts on here think. Puts tin-hat and engages anti-swear word filter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melmacian_saint Posted 17 September, 2012 Share Posted 17 September, 2012 Spurs fans have stolen the song for ages now...which is only fair because it sounds fine. Also I'll reserve my judgement on Swansea and more specifically Laudrup until March/April. The teams he's managed so far seem to boost of a lot of confidence thanks to his dynamic, fast-paced attacking football but seem equally prone to confidence setbacks. I remember his season at Getafe, where he surprised in the UEFA cup with a very great display of football with players who mostly were from a Championship 5th-10th place standard (Pablo Hernandez, Granero and now-retired Ruben de la Red included on loan though). In April they were in the quarter-finals of the UC and in the Cup final. A last-gap elimination by Bayern Munich (after being 4-2 up on aggregate with 5 minutes to go) in Europe was enough to seem them win 1 match out of the rest of their competitive fixtures (lost the final too), dropping from 5th to around 13th if I'm not wrong. It might be that they go on to do fairly well, I'd expect him to learn from the experience, but I'm not sure he's a very good crisis manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 18 September, 2012 Share Posted 18 September, 2012 We're going to finish comfortably mid-table. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 18 September, 2012 Share Posted 18 September, 2012 Oooh. Sounds to me that an ex-professional football who seems to be admired far and wide for his fairness, tactical nous and impartiality implies that Kelvin wasn't entirely to blame as much as all the football experts on here think. Puts tin-hat and engages anti-swear word filter. I didn't think Kelv did all that much wrong either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 18 September, 2012 Share Posted 18 September, 2012 Let them come down to SMS... I would love Spurs fans to sing OWTS at St Mary's. Because if they do, our players will think that it is us singing it. When there is only one word separating the song between ours and theirs, nobody is going to notice whether it's Spurs or Saints when we sing it simultaneously. Their players all know that it is our song, so won't be under any illusions that it is only their fans singing it. It is just the same when we played the Skates and sang their Pompey chimes, but substituted the word "pay" for "play". It was a bad mistake, as their players would have thought that it was their fans singing the Pompey chimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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