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Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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The phrase, "season starts against Villa," seems to be doing the rounds, so let's get the season off to a good start and win.

 

Last time we played this fixture the winner was scored by... Steven Davis.

 

Hooiveld might be injured. Cork played 90 minutes for the U21s against the Barcodes so could be back in contention. I'd go with a similar team:

 

Davis

 

Clyne - Fonte - Yoshi - Fox

 

Davis - Morgan - JWP

 

Ramirez - Lambert - Lallana

sandwichsaint

sandwichsaint

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.................. Gazz ...........

 

Patsy Font Jos Yoshi

 

................... MS ...............

 

Chaplow ..................Llalana

 

................ GRFG ................

 

............RL ...... JRod...........

 

Subs

 

KD

Fox

Cork

Davis

Mayuka

Lee

JP

 

 

That shoud do it, 2-1 Saints.

Kingsland Codger

Kingsland Codger

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On the bright side, it might take a defensive horror-show to wake things up. The tapes will be watched and re-watched closely and at the next training session the errors will be concentrated on. We therefore should be tighter at the back, sharper in midfield and more supportive of the attack. Looking back (painfully) at past thumpings, we have often won the following league encounter.

 

Yesterday's disaster needs to be seen as an opportunity to improve.

rshephard3

rshephard3

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Ramirez plays and has the team built around him. Lambert plays 90 minutes unless injured or overly tired. Fox dropped, was **** enough defensively in the Championship and is getting absolutely ruined in the prem. How we don't have a left back with any defensive ability over the age of 17 in the prem is remarkable and has already been noted by the whole league. 6 pointer time now.

Ian the Red

Ian the Red

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We must pickup at least a point. Lambert must play a full 90. Defence needs sorting, would go with:

 

KD unless we sign someone

Richardson Jos Yoshida Clyne

MS Ramirez

AL JWP Mayuka

Ricky

 

Mayuka should be used on the wing with his pace and every defence is terrified of real pace. Got to get the ball RL and support him.

Rebel

Rebel

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Davis

 

Richardson. Fonte. Yoshida. Clyne

 

Cork. Chaplow. Morgan

 

Lallana. Ramirez

 

Rodriguez

 

 

Using Cork and Morgan as the 2 defensive midfielders and Chaplow as the attacking midfielder. We need someone with a bit more pace and running upfront - that's what I'd start Rodriguez

SuperMikey

SuperMikey

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------------------DAVIS--------------

CLYNE---FONTE---MAYA---FOX

-----DAVIS---MORGAN---JWP---

RAMIREZ----------------LALLANA

----------------LAMBERT-----------

 

Subs: Gazza, Frazer, Shaw, Seaborne, Chaplow, Mayuka, Rodriguez.

Dazza82

Dazza82

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Ramirez plays and has the team built around him. Lambert plays 90 minutes unless injured or overly tired. Fox dropped, was **** enough defensively in the Championship and is getting absolutely ruined in the prem. How we don't have a left back with any defensive ability over the age of 17 in the prem is remarkable and has already been noted by the whole league. 6 pointer time now.

 

The majority of goals conceded this season have come from our right back position

rshephard3

rshephard3

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The majority of goals conceded this season have come from our right back position

 

Lies, Damn lies and Statistics. Superb. Clyne is already a far better footballer than Danny Fox IMO.

ALWAYS_SFC

ALWAYS_SFC

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Roll on Saturday..

need to get this arse defeat out of the system

 

Looking at the threads on here today...blimey some real panic and hysteria, thanks to the sensible realist

some of it was readable..

 

God knows what the forum will be like post Villa if we don`t win...

Avenue Saint

Avenue Saint

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-----------------GAZZA--------------

CLYNE----YOSHI---JOS------FOX

-----CORK--MORGAN--JWP---

RAMIREZ----------------LALLANA

---------------LAMBERT-----------

 

Subs: Davis, Fonte, Davis, Chaplow, Punch, Mayuka, Rodriguez

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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4-4-1-1 like second half yesterday

 

-----------------------A Keeper---------------

 

Clyne-----------Jose---------Yoshida-----Shaw

 

 

Puncheon---------JWP------Morgan-------Lallana

 

------------------------Ramirez--------------------

 

------------------------Lambert-------------------

Avenue Saint

Avenue Saint

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4-4-1-1 like second half yesterday

 

-----------------------A Keeper---------------

 

Clyne-----------Jose---------Yoshida-----Shaw

 

 

Puncheon---------JWP------Morgan-------Lallana

 

------------------------Ramirez--------------------

 

------------------------Lambert-------------------

 

If we change formation at home, it will only make it that much longer to get fully accustomed to our new formation.

 

Otherwise it would be logical, to just go 4-4-2 and I know we'll pick up the points (lambert will be back to best) but you can't do that away in this league so might be 1 step forward fir sake of 2 steps back.

 

If they are serious long term about this 4-3-3/4-3-2-1 formation, the sooner we get totally comfortable with it, the better.

Tokyo-Saint

Tokyo-Saint

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4-4-1-1 like second half yesterday

 

-----------------------A Keeper---------------

 

Clyne-----------Jose---------Yoshida-----Shaw

 

 

Puncheon---------JWP------Morgan-------Lallana

 

------------------------Ramirez--------------------

 

------------------------Lambert-------------------

 

That's the one!

Spudders

Spudders

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God knows what the forum will be like post Villa if we don`t win...

 

Tim Berners-Lee has apparently agreed to switch off the internet for a few days after the game if saints don't win.

egreog

egreog

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3 points is essential from this or I fear a long season of angst and discontent. Presumably the players are totally aware so should play out of their collective skins. If not we really do have major problems without any obvious solution.

trousers

trousers

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3 points is essential from this

 

I'm gonna stick my neck out and say that anything other than no points is essential.

 

Much like our -10 season in League One, the sooner we get through that psychological zero barrier the better.

 

So, yes of course, 3 points would be better than 1 but a point would have the same effect of removing the start of season monkey off our backs...

Wade Garrett

Wade Garrett

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Gazza

Clyne, Fonte, Yoshida, Fox

Cork, Morgan

Mayuka, Ramirez, Lallana

Lambert

 

With the imbalance in the squad, we don't have much choice than go attacking.

 

I'd have Morgan and Cork sitting in front of the back 4 to give them some protection.

itchen_dan

itchen_dan

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4-4-1-1 like second half yesterday

 

-----------------------A Keeper---------------

 

Clyne-----------Jose---------Yoshida-----Shaw

 

 

Puncheon---------JWP------Morgan-------Lallana

 

------------------------Ramirez--------------------

 

------------------------Lambert-------------------

 

Was gonna suggest exactly the same although with a slight tweak. Bit of a 5 man diamond (as some of you may know, I prefer the diamond and is the formation I want us to play)

 

                       Gazzaniga         


Clyne            Fonte           Hooiveld         Fox


                    Schneiderlin


      Puncheon        JWP/Davis           Lallana


 
                   Ramirez

                           Lambert

 

- Davis has had his chance, and blown it. Gazza to come in.

 

- Still keeps the DM that Adkins seems to want to protect the back four.

 

- Still allows the full backs to bomb on like Adkins wants.

 

- Still allows us to potentially outnumber the CM with 3/4 players always there.

 

- Still allows Lallana freedom to attack and join in with attacks. Ramirez can play his preferred and best "number 10" role with little defensive responsibility and Lambert gets someone for support and someone who can play in and around him.

 

-As close to the 4-4-2 that many want but keeps with the 4-5-1/4-3-3 that Adkins wants.

pingwing

pingwing

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I think we have got to make room for puncheon in our team. He's been one of our best players.

 

He really hasn't, United he was world class, every other game he has had the ball, run about about, tripped over it and wasted possession and goal scoring opportunities.

 

Arsenal he gave a real league 1 performance with his single highlight being the cross in for our goal, even then it wasn't the best we have seen.

 

A frustrating player who we should loose patience with very quickly because his ability to follow the game plan keeps dropping off a cliff and costing us badly.

Dr. Kucho

Dr. Kucho

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------------ Davis ------------

Clyne ---- Fonte --- Yoshida ---- Shaw

------- Cork ----- Schneiderlin

Puncheon ---- Ramirez ------ Lallana

------------ Lambert ----------

 

Subs: Gazza, Richardson, Lee, S Davis, Mayuka, Hooiveld, Rodriguez.

 

Fox's crosses and attacking play are decent but his defending has been shocking, he cuts inside way to early leaving the left open. Fonte and Yoshida seemed to work well together and Jos has been poor at times this season. Left JWP out as he has played some tough games and is still young. Ramirez has to play, he looked ace yesterday.

Lighthouse

Lighthouse

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How many of the people picking Shaw have seen him play more than a couple of sub appearances against sh*t teams in the cup? I have doubts over Fox too but this 'anyone is better' mentality is flawed. Chuck him in too early and we will just end up with another Bernard, Molyneux or Van Damme.

saintbob40

saintbob40

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Cork in for oneof the ginger ninjas. We need his calm authority on the ball and his industriousness off the ball. Somebody needs to do the hard work that most fans never notice, otherwise we will get stuffed by a very average Villa as well.

 

Also Ramirez to start.

 

then we will win........

The Kraken

The Kraken

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They will sell

 

We'll see. I've been keeping an eye on it, we've sold a few hundred since the middle of last week. I imagine we'll get close to sell out, maybe achieving that on the day itself.

Norm

Norm

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I left it too late (was on holiday) to get tickets in the Family section. Only two left but were not together, so my grandson and I will miss this game. I think it will be a sell out.

The Kraken

The Kraken

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I left it too late (was on holiday) to get tickets in the Family section. Only two left but were not together, so my grandson and I will miss this game. I think it will be a sell out.

 

Why not just go in the Chapel end, Norm? Plenty of seats in there.

Turkish

Turkish

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Tickets aren't exactly flying out; still comfortably over 2,000 seats available. Villa have taken their full allocation.

 

I'd didn't think this could be true as the weather forecast is good, it isn't the school holidays or a bank holiday weekend. There are no road works on the M3 or A34 and no train strike and its our only league home game in 4 weeks so no issue with anyone who just wants to see a game of premier league football having to pick one game out of two, therefore i assumed we'd sell out already and be turning thousands away. Then I remembered its the weekend before pay day and the 22nd of September is traditionally one of the most popular dates in the calander for surprise birthday parties for aunties so that explains why there are still a lot of tickets left.

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