Saint_clark Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Oh well. Bizarrely we actually showed some promising signs there. Ramirez and Yoshida both looked good, Fonte has improved, Rodriguez looked much better in the centre.
Saintandy666 Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Well, the second half was better. Ramirez looks extremely promising. Looked a class above the rest while he was on the pitch. Season starts next week. COYR.
MOSaint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Puncheon was good second half, Yoshida wasn't too bad after his mistake and Ramirez showed lots of promise, other than that a real stinker of a performance
Guest flickjax Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 I thought we played some reasonable football at times again, Ramirez looks good. Defence and keeper very shaky and Arsenal did their homework on us and denied us space and they had Rickie in their pocket.
Mr X Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Utter utter ******* ****e with mOre ****e on top just about sums it up! Thought ward prowse looks an exciting Prospect that's about the only bright point. Adkins needs to act fast!
saint si Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Well we lost 6-1 away at Arsenal back in 2003. If we can emulate that season then no complaints!
Saint_clark Posted 15 September, 2012 Author Posted 15 September, 2012 Utter utter ******* ****e with mOre ****e on top just about sums it up! Thought ward prowse looks an exciting Prospect that's about the only bright point. Adkins needs to act fast! I honestly think these sort of views will be in the minority.
trousers Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Well, that's got Aston Villa confused then....first points on the board next week...
S-Clarke Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 The first half was as bad as we have played this season. If we start that off the pace at Arsenal, then it's game over very, very early. Which was the case. We showed promise in the 2nd half, but it was all too late. Defensively we're not great, there's no denying that. The goals we conceded today were, on the whole, lower-league quality goals. We've got to be doing better than that, otherwise we'll be doing a Derby. But it's only 4 games, we've got this hellish start out of the way. It's done. Put to bed. But, we now need to get points on the board - starting next week. If we get beaten by Villa, then something is horribly wrong - but I think we'll be ok in that one. It's going to be a **** week building up to that though, let's be honest.
BotleySaint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 All the hard work of the Manchester games is undone over a crazy first 40 minutes. Goal difference is now back to expected levels and points total is also as expected. Season starts against Villa.
scotty Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Trouble is, after the last two seasons we arent used to this. Better get acclimatized I suppose.
Shanghai Saint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Decent second half. New signings will make a difference. Hope Jos is OK. Season starts now.
BARCELONASAINT Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 I will leave the hysterical reactions for others.........i will just say that was very hard to watch but i feel our season really kicks off next week. It is not time to panic yet, lets see how we are doing after 10/12 games.
redkeith Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Thought the centre backs did ok. KD should have done better with the 2nd, and we either need to board up the near post, or get another keeper. JWP was class and Ramirez looked good but we have to start defending the flanks better. Thought JyRod looked much better up the middle. Gordon or Boruc on a free please.
Shrek Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Well at least we haven't dropped any further down the table.
Stepgar Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 First half killed us....removed the pressure then we started to play. Need to that all game next week.
doddisalegend Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 From the radio Gaston seems to be the only good thing to come out of today. Shocking defending, Lambert isolated by the system and totally outclassed. Just another depressing day in the PL for saints. Need to get some points on the board and quick....
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Utter utter ******* ****e with mOre ****e on top just about sums it up! Thought ward prowse looks an exciting Prospect that's about the only bright point. Adkins needs to act fast! He had his chance to act in the summer. Now it's a case of lying in the bed he has made. Agree with people that we look to have some good attacking options, but any team in this league is going to fancy scoring against us. Going to be a long hard winter methinks.
Saint Scott Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Oh well. Bizarrely we actually showed some promising signs there. Ramirez and Yoshida both looked good, Fonte has improved, Rodriguez looked much better in the centre. Can you quickly unlock the Match Thread please? I need to copy the BB Code for future match day threads.
Thedelldays Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 before anyone blames fox....4 of the goals came from attacks down OUR right hand side
Ed Rooney Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Weird but played well second half, new signings looked good and lets face it we were punished by an awesome side going forward.. 1st half we looked like we wanted to swap shirts and get their autographs but second half we did ok. Oh well Aston Villa is an absolute MUST WIN
trousers Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 @officialsaints: Chamberlain and Walcott join our players in thanking Saints fans for their support. Nice touch. #saintsfc
Wiggles31 Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Have to take the positives from the 2nd half. Ramirez needs to start all the time now. We really cocked up the window for a CB. Huge fail.
Ohio Saint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 The season starts after this game. There were certainly some good positives to take from the newest signings as well as the older new signings. Based only on what I saw here, Ramirez will tear a hole in many of the more average teams.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?40075-Scapegoat-thread-poll&p=1478341#post1478341 Why not St Clark... its what everyone wants to do, just look at the match thread
S-Clarke Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Trouble is, after the last two seasons we arent used to this. Better get acclimatized I suppose. It was always going to be like that, a bolt out of the blue for some. I'm honestly surprised at our first half display though. Arsenal didn't really need to play that well, we handed it to them on a plate along with knives and forks. Not sure what we've been working on in training over the last 2 weeks if that's a result of our defensive work (as we spent a few days just on defensive shape)
VectisSaint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Shocking decision by Adkins to leave Guly out, we could have won if he had played. It feels like a lot of people on here must be relatively new at supporting Saints, judging by their reactions. We had a crap game and lost 6-1, well I never did, seem to recall we lost 7-1 to Arse just before the FA Cup Final. **** happens, life goes on.
Saint_clark Posted 15 September, 2012 Author Posted 15 September, 2012 Can you quickly unlock the Match Thread please? I need to copy the BB Code for future match day threads. Crack on.
RonManager Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 I think that went well. Tactical defeat.
VectisSaint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 It was always going to be like that, a bolt out of the blue for some. I'm honestly surprised at our first half display though. Arsenal didn't really need to play that well, we handed it to them on a plate along with knives and forks. Not sure what we've been working on in training over the last 2 weeks if that's a result of our defensive work (as we spent a few days just on defensive shape) Difficult to work on much with half the team away on international waste of time duty.
MOSaint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 This may sound like over-reaction, but I feel like Gazzaniga should be given a chance in goal against Villa. Davis has made far too many mistakes in these first four games, Gazzaniga can't possibly be worse.
badgerx16 Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 1) We won't be the only team beaten by 5 at Arsenal 2) We have actually had worse starts to Premiership seasons 3) We are currently one win away from 14th 4) We will beat Villa 5) The sun will come up tomorrow At least 4 of the above are facts !
Ohio Saint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Can you quickly unlock the Match Thread please? I need to copy the BB Code for future match day threads. Ah yes! Another positive from today, a proper OP on the match day thread!!
S-Clarke Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Shocking decision by Adkins to leave Guly out, we could have won if he had played. It feels like a lot of people on here must be relatively new at supporting Saints, judging by their reactions. We had a crap game and lost 6-1, well I never did, seem to recall we lost 7-1 to Arse just before the FA Cup Final. **** happens, life goes on. Wasn't that one 6-1 as well? Pennent and Pires hat-tricks IIRC? on a weekday evening. depressing reading everyone's views that the FA Cup final would be the same.
Thedelldays Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Shocking decision by Adkins to leave Guly out, we could have won if he had played. It feels like a lot of people on here must be relatively new at supporting Saints, judging by their reactions. We had a crap game and lost 6-1, well I never did, seem to recall we lost 7-1 to Arse just before the FA Cup Final. **** happens, life goes on. haha true...we were always good for an away spanking at times lol
Elmore Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 We didn't deserve that spanking. Sometimes football punches you in the balls. I know others will disagree but I think today was a mixture of a some bad luck (two own goals and what looked like an injury to Jos inside 30 minutes) and being outclassed by a better side.
buctootim Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Bummer. Looking forward to some more winnable matches.
saintbletch Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Lost the first half in midfield, not defence (although the own goals by defenders didn't help). We were overrun and didn't close down - not an easy criticism of any team facing Arsenal. Second half was much better in spells but still a lot of work to do. Yoshida saved Fox's bacon against AOC a couple of times. Ramirez good in spells, looks calm on the ball. Santi Cazorla is the best buy of the transfer window bar none.
Saint Scott Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Crack on. All done, can lock it again cheers.
doddisalegend Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Shocking decision by Adkins to leave Guly out, we could have won if he had played. It feels like a lot of people on here must be relatively new at supporting Saints, judging by their reactions. We had a crap game and lost 6-1, well I never did, seem to recall we lost 7-1 to Arse just before the FA Cup Final. **** happens, life goes on. Can I be the first to say this is all......................... Guly's fault
S-Clarke Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 We didn't deserve that spanking. Sometimes football punches you in the balls. I know others will disagree but I think today was a mixture of a some bad luck (two own goals and what looked like an injury to Jos inside 30 minutes) and being outclassed by a better side. Nothing to do with bad luck, we deserved that spanking based on that first half. It was only a matter of time.
Ohio Saint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Not sure what we've been working on in training over the last 2 weeks From the first half display, I reckon they had been worrying about it when they got home and stewing themselves into a panic.
CanadaSaint Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 Well, four games in and we've already played what I think will be the top 3 at the end of the season. Zero points (no surprise) and -7 on goal difference (others, I suspect, will do worse.) Our midfield played far too deep in the first half, much better in the second. Fonte looked better - even more so for having Yoshida alongside him. I'd be inclined to play Yoshida at LB because Fox is constantly done for pace, seldom goal-side, and he ball-watches. Our middle two continually have to cover for his inadequacies which pulls us out of shape, and that makes us vulnerable down the other flank. And Kelvin was not at all good again today - his positioning for the free kick was pitiful.
doggface Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 2nd half a bit better but still not good enough. I can take getting beat but we beat ourselves today. 3.5 goals conceded average per game says it all, cannot believe we didn't strengthen more at the back, I think it will cost us ultimately. Hope I'm wrong. Early days yes, but villa is must win. Honestly lose that and I can only see one result for Nigel.
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 We've had worse days. It's going to be a long season and my concern is that it's going to take a few games for the new players to settle in. Nothing there today that many of us didn't expect and predict.
trousers Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 I think that went well. Tactical defeat. ^ This
lordswoodsaints Posted 15 September, 2012 Posted 15 September, 2012 15 goals leaked is far too worrying for me regardless of who we have played in our first few games,this needs to be addressed but I don't think we have the players to rectify it. If we are still in the bottom three come January and it looks like there is a good chance we will get relegated then cortese will not put his hand in his pocket and spend big as there is too much risk. The most important thing is to remain in this league and anybody who says otherwise needs their head examined IMO.
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