If Adkins is sacked ...

[sotonjoe]

I'm sorry that people feel the need to start threads like this. Surely no-one is naive enough to think this will happen ..considering the opposition we've played in the three games so far.

 

Wigan are a much better side this season than where they finished last ....Look at the table for yourself.

 

...and if every manager whose team loses to Man .City and Man Utd this season is sacked ....we'll have half of the Prem. clubs with new managers before the New Year !

 

 

I'm sorry that your reading age is so low that you can't understand a post.

 

IF Cortese sacks Nige in few game's time, as several media outlets seem to be implying could be the case, how would people feel? Would we be flabbergasted and start losing faith in the regime in control, or would we back the board? That is the central question.

 

IN a wider sense, how long would we be prepared to watch our club flounder around at the foot of the league before we felt a change of manager was justified?

 

I have an uneasy feeling that Cortese will wield the axe before most of us would do and I'm hoping that the wheels don't come off should this happen.

[Saint86]

Who could be better? His whole plan is about stability, steadily building, integrating the academy players, playing good football. Adkins knows the club and players inside out, is a good coach and can improve players. A big name would have their own ideas of doing things, want their own staff and more player turnover. It's pointless. Clubs are praised when change brings short term success, but how often do rash early season sackings bring about long term success? Personally I hope Adkins is here for many years. If you get a good manager, you'd be daft not to back them through the toughest periods. All great managers have had moments they could have been sacked.

 

I agree Adrian (unlike your penalty claim the other night ) Nigel is clearly a gem and he is Nicola's man through and through. I don't think he'd go if we got relegated even. Unless we didn't put up a brave fight. And the obvious point is that Nicola is stubborn as an ox and hates the media messing with the club.

 

 

Media say sack Adkins....... Nicola is likely to do what... unless we are on course to do a derby Adkins is safe for me. He is young and learning all the time, and clearly a damn good coach. These morons who want him out are just that... morons.

[lordswoodsaints]

Managers come and go,I think some of you get a bit anal over it.

It's a part of modern day football,out of nearly 100 clubs in the English leagues there are only about 3 or 4 long term managers so that really tells you all you need to know.

If Adkins is failing in his task then he should be given a reasonable amount of time to address the problems but there has to be a cut off point,cortese will have a point in mind that he considers to be the time in which a new manager could possibly turn it around and I think it will probably be October/November if we continue to lose......unfortunately it will be inevitable regardless of how well Adkins has done to get us to the prem.

[OldNick]

100% I dont wish for Adkins to be sacked but if he carries on doing the most ridiculous and reckless substituions of our best players with 15minutes to go he deserves to lose his job. That decicion has already cost us at least 1 precious point this season.

[Kevin Turvey]

Are you guys serious about getting rid of Adkins? I can't stand the bloke in a "pantomime" hate way (I'm a Brighton fan) but he deserves a full season in the Premiership no matter what happens because of what he has achieved. He's not going to get it right straight away but at least he's trying to mix it with muscle and a bit of flair in one of the top 2 leagues in the world. You don't really want to see Southampton turned into a Stoke do you with someone like Big Sam at the helm? You guys are better than that.

 

I hope you stick by him because he's done brilliantly and I'm not sure who else could do a better job.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

I see lots of opinions confidently expressed, but the simple truth is that if we're still bottom of the table and pointless at the end of this month then it's anyones guess how the Don will react to that. I make no claims to be able to read his mind but he doesn't strike me as a particularly patient man. Only time will tell I suppose.

 

I'll trot out the oldest football cliche of them all and state that there are no easy games in this division anymore - and that's perfectly true - but the fixture list we have been dealt has done us no favours at all. Rightly or wrongly a manager, and his teams fate may well turn of the mysterious workings of a computer programme that 'passeth all understanding' as they sometimes say ....

[Dalek2003]

I would envisage the same sort of reaction that the Pardew sacking attracted. There would be plenty of 'hoo-ha' but give it a few games with a new manager and most people will have switched to short memory mode...

 

Which would have happened in 2004 if we had appointed Hoddle, who had the status and experience to ensure our premiership status, but instead we went for a League 1 turnip field worker.

[Badger]

Are you guys serious about getting rid of Adkins? I can't stand the bloke in a "pantomime" hate way (I'm a Brighton fan) but he deserves a full season in the Premiership no matter what happens because of what he has achieved. He's not going to get it right straight away but at least he's trying to mix it with muscle and a bit of flair in one of the top 2 leagues in the world. You don't really want to see Southampton turned into a Stoke do you with someone like Big Sam at the helm? You guys are better than that.

 

I hope you stick by him because he's done brilliantly and I'm not sure who else could do a better job.

 

Thank you , for a sensible and impartial observation - even allowing for the "pantomime" figure he has become for you lot.

 

I hope we do not have to discuss the next 'candidate' for real in the next few months.

 

I don't think we as fans are serious about getting rid at all, but the media with the 'odds on..' type of coverage seem to want it, or at least a discussion on it. Personally I don't think threads like this are particularly useful or welcome. Before you know it the media is reporting 'Saints forums are rife with speculation about ...', which just add to the media circus.

Edited 15 September, 2012 by Badger

[sammysaint]

I love Nigel hes taken us back to the promise land but if we lose both he deserves to be sacked.

[OldNick]

Which would have happened in 2004 if we had appointed Hoddle, who had the status and experience to ensure our premiership status, but instead we went for a League 1 turnip field worker.

He is such a miracle worker he hasn't had a job in years lol. His status and experience would never let a 3 goal lead slip against a division 1 team, or against Man u in 45 minutes...........oh

[trousers]

Bump ;-)

[ALWAYS_SFC]

This will be the busiest thread post match that`s for sure

[Thedelldays]

if we don't beat villa...I can see him being under enormous pressure after this...utterly pathetic

[thegaffer]

hes out of his depth

[lordswoodsaints]

I don't know about you lot but I actually wanna stay in the prem,just a shame that some are happy for us to go down and rely on parachute payments to get back up.......here's an idea, why don't we just try and stay up.

[Thedelldays]

there is no way NC sanctioned us to be the 7th biggest spenders in europe to sit and watch us get smashed every week

[ALWAYS_SFC]

I don't know about you lot but I actually wanna stay in the prem,just a shame that some are happy for us to go down and rely on parachute payments to get back up.......here's an idea, why don't we just try and stay up.

 

 

Well said..

[Langleysaint]

Really like Adkins , but knowing the Don , a replacement is allready lined up !!!!

[Dr. Kucho]

I really like Adkins and think he deserves more time, something like another 4 matches to get some points. We play nice football, just a shame the defence (Clyne excluded and the verdicts out on Yoshida) is poor.

 

I do think that after this half the thought of another manager might just have crossed Nicola's mind for a moment.

[ALWAYS_SFC]

Really like Adkins , but knowing the Don , a replacement is allready lined up !!!!

 

Personally?

[Saint Fan CaM]

Do we really have the players to effectively nullify the attackers that the top four clubs have for 90mins? I really don't think we have yet - I think all the Managers of the top 4 sides would have the same problems Adkins is facing. Sacking him would just make things worse - perhaps there's a few here that don't remember the last time we were in the Prem with a revolving door policy.

[lordswoodsaints]

I don't think I could stomach a season which mirrors blackburns season last year.

I don't want us limping along hoping things will change,with the fans on Adkins back a la Steve kean with cortese stubbornly sticking with Adkins regardless.

[egreog]

It would be crazy to even contemplate sacking such a successful manager after 4 games. This is a low point in the season, I would suggest it needs to kick start now and the management and team know that. Only in January should there be a review . Until then keep faith in those who have succeeded so far

[docker-p]

there is no way NC sanctioned us to be the 7th biggest spenders in europe to sit and watch us get smashed every week

Maybe if he had spent the Liebherrs money more wisely, we wouldn't be conceding 14 goals in four games.

If Cortese sacks Adkins, then the Liebherr family should sack Cortese.

[Thedelldays]

Maybe if he had spent the Liebherrs money more wisely, we wouldn't be conceding 14 goals in four games.

If Cortese sacks Adkins, then the Liebherr family should sack Cortese.

why...

[S-Clarke]

He'll be given more time, but I would imagine NC would be wobbling if we lose at Villa...and then at Everton, let's be honest.

 

6 games, 0 points, possibly 7 adrift. He might be forced to act at that point - but it's pointless debating that, because we'll be on 6 points ourselves.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

As much as people say it would be crazy to sack Nigel after a few games, I think it is highly likely that the pressure will come to bear very quickly if we have a run of 2 or 3 more poor results. Football is tough and everybody wants results yesterday. A hell of a lot of money has been spent on the squad and NC will want a return on that I am sure.

[Rebel]

It's the scouts and the transfer negotiator who needs to be sacked - or whoever is responsible fie identifying and signing players.

 

If Adkins hasn't got the players in the squad there's not much he can do about it!

[CB Fry]

Maybe if he had spent the Liebherrs money more wisely, we wouldn't be conceding 14 goals in four games.

If Cortese sacks Adkins, then the Liebherr family should sack Cortese.

 

 

 

Naah. Doesn't and won't work like that.

 

If Cortese sacks Adkins, replaces badly and we go down, maybe NC would deserve to be fired. Maybe.

 

But at this point in the season, Cortese sacking NA (if he does) is just Nicola doing his job.

[Mr X]

It's a funny game the same people that are saying stick with Adkins no matter what will be demanding an inquest if cortese sticks with him till the bitter end and doesn't bring someone in when he had the chance. Swings and roundabouts. Adkins should be given five more games in my opinion still no points then get someone else in with more experience to give us half a chance.

[MOSaint]

Our next 6 contain a good number of winnable games;

 

Villa

Everton

Fulham

West Ham

Spurs

WBA

 

Should aim for 10 points from that lot.

[Wade Garrett]

Anyone who wants Adkins out at this moment in time is a c*nt.

 

Anyone who thinks Adkins is not out of his depth at this moment in time is a c*nt.

[Mr X]

Anyone who thinks Adkins is not out of his depth at this moment in time is a c*nt.

 

 

 

Why exactly? Because we got thrashed by one of the top three teams? Who wouldn't be out of their depth against man city, man united and arsenal?

[InvictaSaint]

Anyone who thinks Adkins is not out of his depth at this moment in time is a c*nt.

 

Excellent. That's this thread put to bed then. Thank heavens for reasoned, rational debate - oh sorry; forgot - this is SWF isn't it.

[dan17]

Utter moron on radio 5 live just now saying that Redknapp or Hoddle should be appointed. ****ing *****!

[Mr X]

Utter moron on radio 5 live just now saying that Redknapp or Hoddle should be appointed. ****ing *****!

 

Hoddle hasn't been in management for bloody years it would be a crazy appointment!

[S-Clarke]

Anyone who thinks Adkins is not out of his depth at this moment in time is a c*nt.

 

Anyone who thinks Adkins is out of his depth, at this moment in time, after 4 games, is a bit of a moron.

 

HTH.

[SaintRichmond]

Why exactly? Because we got thrashed by one of the top three teams? Who wouldn't be out of their depth against man city, man united and arsenal?

 

I think the difference is simple

 

Against Man C, we were IN the game, and made it competitive

 

Against Man U, we were IN the game, and, bar those substitutions, could and possibly should have won

 

Against Arsenal ?? 1 -6 doesn't appear to be a very close match IMHO

 

Adkins does appear to be clutching at straws already.

[david in sweden]

I'd be interested to start a list of clubs who play; Man City, Man Utd and Arsenal this season ..and see how they compare, maybe we would not be the only ones to come away... pointless !

 

Judging ANY manager on the results of games against those three teams is totally crazy. It's just our bad luck to get them all in such a short period.

 

Has Adkins made mistakes; YES ..one ot two ......should he be sacked for them?.....ABSOLUTELY NOT!

[aintforever]

Would be retarded to sack Adkins after 5 games.

[patred44]

Anyone who thinks Adkins is out of his depth, at this moment in time, after 4 games, is a bit of a moron.

 

HTH.

 

in truth it doesn't matter whether we think he is out of his depth, it's whether Cortese does.

With Les Reed hovering in the background he could easily give him the job as caretaker, whilst Cortese searches Italy for his replacement

[Glasgow_Saint]

Utter moron on radio 5 live just now saying that Redknapp or Hoddle should be appointed. ****ing *****!

 

Dalek

[aintforever]

in truth it doesn't matter whether we think he is out of his depth, it's whether Cortese does.

With Les Reed hovering in the background he could easily give him the job as caretaker, whilst Cortese searches Italy for his replacement

 

Joking right? This is the same Les Reed that f*cked Charlton up.

[lordswoodsaints]

Adkins didn't seem so upbeat about things in the post match interview as he usually is...maybe the reality of the task is beginning to bite.

[CHAPEL END CHARLIE]

Would be retarded to sack Adkins after 5 games.

 

I quite agree ......

 

but I not one of those who feel he has a 'license to fail' for the entire season.

[Toomer]

In time Cortese will be hated by the fan base just as much as Rupert Lowe was, it is already the case with the staff at SMS.

[Thedelldays]

In time Cortese will be hated by the fan base just as much as Rupert Lowe was, it is already the case with the staff at SMS.

 

Jesus... We have only lost 4 games

[Alain Perrin]

Anyone who thinks Adkins is out of his depth, at this moment in time, after 4 games, is a bit of a moron.

 

HTH.

 

I disagree - you wrote moron, I'd say ****ing bellend.

[Toomer]

Jesus... We have only lost 4 games

 

Make a note of this and in time it will come true.

[supersonic]

As much as I don't want to see Adkins leave, I think the clock is ticking.

 

14 goals conceded is 4 games is poor at any level. Our defending was our weak point last season, the fact we've bought in only 2 defenders is suicidal. There are a number of people to blame for this.

 

As well as shipping goals, it's the way we are conceding them, 2 were poor at City, both Wigan goals were sloppy, all 3 v United and 3/4 mistakes today.

 

The 433 isn't working, neither is the defense. Every time the opposition get the ball I feel we are going to concede.

 

It's going to be a VERY long, hard season.