Lallana called up for England.

[obelisk]

Lampard MoM! Eh? Didn't even see him for 30 minutes. Well at least he managed to stick it between the posts and under the bar.

[mulletsaint]

Thought we might push on and win this but down to ten wouldn't surprise me if we **** it up again.

[kpturner]

Great penalty?

 

There's a reason he's missed loads of pens. He puts loads down the middle. Great penalty takers never do.

 

What a load of nonsense

[The Kraken]

Lampard man of the match?

 

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[Thedelldays]

Welbeck dive lol

[hypochondriac]

Are you suggesting Pirlo chips all his penalties down the middle?

 

You said that great penalty takers never do.

[Saint86]

Great penalty?

 

There's a reason he's missed loads of pens. He puts loads down the middle. Great penalty takers never do.

 

Pirlo?

 

Are you suggesting Pirlo chips all his penalties down the middle?

 

No, you suggested that great penalty takers are never shoot down the middle. Owned yourself twice there :-) England must have a bad effect on you

[kpturner]

Are you suggesting Pirlo chips all his penalties down the middle?

 

No, I think he is suggesting he is a great penalty taker and he put the penalty down the middle, somewhat contradicting the somewhat laughable suggestion that great penalty takers "never" do that.

[The Kraken]

Ukraine manager apologising to Roy for the sending off.

[pingwing]

How has he given MOTM to Lampard? He has been largely anonymous.

 

Apparently the commentary team have been watching a pierless performance from England with an unlucky goal from them...

[obelisk]

Dreadful. Surely there must be an Englishman somewhere that knows how to stick it in the net.

[Dark Munster]

Lambert would have Scored that. Instead it passes over that midget Defoe's head

Crouch would have buried it.

[Bearsy]

That's the type of England performance I like. It wouldn't be half as much fun watching if the useless over-hyped clueless predictable plodding hateable ****s knew what they were doing

[The Kraken]

Slightly pedantic. The point was Lampard has hit a hell of a lot down the middle, and missed a lot. The only one I recall MLT hitting even slightly central was saved.

 

Seems odd to be confident in your aim and not go for the sides. Unless of course you're deliberately trying to be cocky and chip it.

 

Frank Lampard has scored every penalty he has taken for Chelsea that he has hit down the middle.

 

http://www.thechels.co.uk/frank-lampard-and-the-art-of-the-penalty-kick/

[kpturner]

What's his penalty record?

 

Sh1te

[suewhistle]

I'm going back to the Pompey Takeover Saga thread. More accurate, good build up, killer one liners and definitely a winning team. Vastly more entertaining.

 

Milner wasn't as bad as expected but some of the passing from the back was appallling, the finishing somewhat lacking and the team needed an effective striker and some quick feet in the box. Oh....

[MOSaint]

Don't worry as explained by ITV's expert commentary team during the first half England are now playing a style of football for "grown-ups" and we, the masses need to be educated before we get it...

[Graffito]

Didn't think much of that. Got to persist with trying to keep possession but just don't have the players to do it throughout the side. Stating the bleeding obvious but what can you say.

 

Thought Lallana was a shoe-in to replace Cleverley.

[Bearsy]

Modern football is all about playing keepball with your centre backs. Like Barcelona

[mulletsaint]

Still, we could be Welsh.

[kpturner]

Slightly pedantic. The point was Lampard has hit a hell of a lot down the middle, and missed a lot. The only one I recall MLT hitting even slightly central was saved.

 

Seems odd to be confident in your aim and not go for the sides. Unless of course you're deliberately trying to be cocky and chip it.

 

"Pedantic" ?? How very dare you! Anyway Lampard's penalty was not straight down the middle. He hit it very slightly to the goalies right. Thank you.

[The Kraken]

Didn't think much of that. Got to persist with trying to keep possession but just don't have the players to do it throughout the side. Stating the bleeding obvious but what can you say.

 

We have the players to do it, they just don't seem to want to do it. Our tactics are to pass it around a little in the middle around the halfway line, get it out to the wide man then don't bother to go looking for a return pass, just look to bomb on into the box. Mindless rubbish.

[kpturner]

Still, we could be Welsh.

 

My missus is a racist where the Welsh are concerned.

[suewhistle]

My missus is a racist where the Welsh are concerned.

 

Does that make you feel a bit sheepish?

[doddisalegend]

Well that was awful I'm sorry but Adam could have replaced at least one of half a dozen England players and been a better option. Lampard MOM my arse. Cleverly looks like a league one player totally useless. What the hell has happened to Oxo I remember this exciting player who used to scare defenders ****less with skill and pace now he just looks pedestrain.

 

Still at least watching the England defenders passing it around 15 times between thenselves and then losing it as soon as they cross the halfway line was exciting..........

[kpturner]

Does that make you feel a bit sheepish?

 

Ummmm.........no

[kpturner]

Well that was awful I'm sorry but Adam could have replaced at least one of half a dozen England players and been a better option. Lampard MOM my arse. Cleverly looks like a league one player totally useless. What the hell has happened to Oxo I remember this exciting player who used to scare defenders ****less with skill and pace now he just looks pedestrain.

 

Still at least watching the England defenders passing it around 15 times between thenselves and then losing it as soon as they cross the halfway line was exciting..........

 

Lallana was never anywhere near having the minutest chance of ever ever ever getting on the pitch. Surely you didn't expect anything else?

 

I actually think we did Ok - apart from the awful finishing!

[Graffito]

Hate it when people say 'we don't have the players to keep possession'. It would help if they weren't on the bench or out the squad.

 

Always the hard workers and striker/wingers who aren't that great at either.

 

Carrick is a good possession player, Lallana is great at it, Wilshere would be if fit and Adam Johnson keeps the ball far more than the usual wingers picked. Bet Lambert would keep it more than Defoe, Carroll or Wellbeck too, he does it for Saints.

 

All depends how you set up. when we went parker and gerrard is central midfield against italy we were never likely to see the ball were we.

 

Agree the selection could improve matters and one or two of the better players were obviously missing but we don't have the players throughout the side. Some can do it some can't. Lescott and Jagielka saw a lot of the ball. What do you reckon?

[mitch01]

I wrote a piece about Lallana in the wake of his recent call-up. Have a read if you can spare a couple of minutes:

 

http://notplayedonpaper.blogspot.co.uk/2012/09/saints-profit-from-lallanas-slow-burn.html

[Dark Munster]

Forget the present dross. We should build for the future. Have Messi impregnate a few dozen fit English lasses, bring over some non-English coaches to help bring up the male offspring, and Bob's your uncle, in 20 years we'll finally have a decent team.

Edited 11 September, 2012 by Dark Munster

[Turkish]

Well that was awful I'm sorry but Adam could have replaced at least one of half a dozen England players and been a better option. Lampard MOM my arse. Cleverly looks like a league one player totally useless. What the hell has happened to Oxo I remember this exciting player who used to scare defenders ****less with skill and pace now he just looks pedestrain.

 

Still at least watching the England defenders passing it around 15 times between thenselves and then losing it as soon as they cross the halfway line was exciting..........

 

As I and others said many times when AOC was here the player you saw terrifying with pace and claiming he had an amazing football brain was terrifying league one players like the mighty Gary Borrowdale of Oldham, big difference to playing full international players. Many wouldn't have it though, oh no, AOC was amazing,if he was good against Gary Borrowdale he'd be good against premier league players, if you're a good player it doesn't matter who the opponent is, we were told. Therefore I don't understand why AOC isn't tearing teams apart at international level like he did to Wallsall and Dagenham. It's doesnt matter who the opposition is, and in any case, we've been told many times you get more time on the ball the higheR up you go weve been told on here loads of times, so he should be p*ssing it now, surely?

[doubleonothing]

“@StanCollymore: Wouldn't risk Sterling but would give Lallana a chance be hid Defoe.Think he may surprise at this level.

 

@talkSPORT ON AIR”

[Graffito]

“@StanCollymore: Wouldn't risk Sterling but would give Lallana a chance be hid Defoe.Think he may surprise at this level.

 

@talkSPORT ON AIR”

 

He might surprise some. He wouldn't surprise us.

[doddisalegend]

As I and others said many times when AOC was here the player you saw terrifying with pace and claiming he had an amazing football brain was terrifying league one players like the mighty Gary Borrowdale of Oldham, big difference to playing full international players. Many wouldn't have it though, oh no, AOC was amazing,if he was good against Gary Borrowdale he'd be good against premier league players, if you're a good player it doesn't matter who the opponent is, we were told. Therefore I don't understand why AOC isn't tearing teams apart at international level like he did to Wallsall and Dagenham. It's doesnt matter who the opposition is, and in any case, we've been told many times you get more time on the ball the higheR up you go weve been told on here loads of times, so he should be p*ssing it now, surely?

 

The thing is Oxo didn't even try to run at the opposition tonight, like he did for us, sure the calibre of player he is up against has improved but his whole game seems to have changed it was all pedestrain short passes barely even tried to beat a man all night.

[GAS]

Hate it when people say 'we don't have the players to keep possession'. It would help if they weren't on the bench or out the squad.

 

Always the hard workers and striker/wingers who aren't that great at either.

 

Carrick is a good possession player, Lallana is great at it, Wilshere would be if fit and Adam Johnson keeps the ball far more than the usual wingers picked. Bet Lambert would keep it more than Defoe, Carroll or Wellbeck too, he does it for Saints.

 

All depends how you set up. when we went parker and gerrard is central midfield against italy we were never likely to see the ball were we.

Good post. I liked the fact that we wanted to keep possession but we do need players who can do something with the ball. Glen Johnson was my motm, a right back! And the two centre backs must have loved passing it to each other for 90 mins. Had enough of Lampard and Gerard for that matter. Bring on Lallana. COYR.

[doddisalegend]

Lallana was never anywhere near having the minutest chance of ever ever ever getting on the pitch. Surely you didn't expect anything else?

I actually think we did Ok - apart from the awful finishing!

 

Well I did dare to dream that Roy might be the sort of England manager who wasn't afraid to try something different and could look beyond the players club.......

[wild-saint]

he was never going to play. maybe if he was in the original squad and had trained with the team all week. turning up the day before a game Nd expexting him to get on was a real lomg shot imo.

[CB Fry]

He might surprise some. He wouldn't surprise us.

 

 

 

He'd surprise me. He's great for us but don't see him as good enough for international stage.

 

Nice call up for him but not convinced he's particularly close to getting a game any time soon. But you never know.

[lordswoodsaints]

Lallana didn't seem to bothered,he was too busy yawning all night.

[doddisalegend]

Lallana didn't seem to bothered,he was too busy yawning all night.

 

He wasn't the only one....almost fell asleep watching the first half myself....only a halftime walk to the shops to get milk woke me up.

[Bucks Saint]

Lallana didn't seem to bothered,he was too busy yawning all night.

 

I thought the lad did well. He did not put a pass astray all night, he was trying to find an opening, and was not fazed by the occasion. Great debut

[disintegration87]

Lallana in place of Cleverly and we would have been out of sight by half time. Any one else think that if Rickie was on the end of some of Gerrard's balls into the box rather than Jermaine we would have been much more comfortable?

[Webby]

I think you're expecting far too much to suggest that ads could've come on and made a big difference. It's not as if Adam never gives the ball away is it? Plus, this Ukraine side are decent. Finish above them and we'll qualify.

 

Adam was never gonna get on. He was just called up for the experience. Roy said so himself. Shame really. It would have been nice to get his first call up on merit and be involved rather than because of injury and illness dropouts.

[Toomer]

IMO the game was crying out for a Lambert type striker who could hold the ball up and bring others into play.

[Leicestersaint]

It was all fairly mediocre and the commentary was ridiculous most of the time. Bring back the Olympics (and Brad Wiggins Andy Murray)!

[alpine_saint]

Lallana didn't seem to bothered,he was too busy yawning all night.

 

Truly the real successor to MLT.

[Window Cleaner]

Absolutely pointless call up, took him away from training with Saints for nothing, unsurprising though because Hodgson is an old idiot. Should have given Harry the job.

[kpturner]

Absolutely pointless call up, took him away from training with Saints for nothing, unsurprising though because Hodgson is an old idiot. Should have given Harry the job.

Don't agree that it was pointless. He said in a interview that it was a good opportunity for new players to come in and get a feel for the setup etc. I doubt Lallana considered it pointless at all.

[david in sweden]

.in retrospect .......a good game NOT to have taken part in- or more correctly.... a bad game you should be glad to have been on the bench for.

 

One of the worst England games I've seen in a while..thank goodness Lampard can still score penalties!

 

I thought Cleverley was very poor in the first half, could easily have had a hat-trick. I was expecting him to be replaced in the second half but Roy (thankfully) wasn't courageous enough to debut Adam.

 

Could be a blessing in disguise. IF RH has gone as far as to praise Adam and pick him, maybe he'll get a bit of playing time in the coming matches.

[david in sweden]

Absolutely pointless call up, took him away from training with Saints for nothing, unsurprising though because Hodgson is an old idiot. Should have given Harry the job.

 

....you mean England should have chosen one old idiot .....instead of the other!