Saint_clark Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I agree; I just would normally have expected such call-ups to be for a friendly. But as you say, even if Roy has no intention of playing them, they will gain from the experience if they do get called up again. Gary Neville would have seen first hand the ability of Lallana against Man United, so that's fairly encouraging if its been his influence that has led to the call-up. Hodgson was at the United game as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I agree; I just would normally have expected such call-ups to be for a friendly. But as you say, even if Roy has no intention of playing them, they will gain from the experience if they do get called up again. Gary Neville would have seen first hand the ability of Lallana against Man United, so that's fairly encouraging if its been his influence that has led to the call-up. I thought Roy was at that game to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Hodgson was at the United game as well. Which probably suggests they had already discussed him and he was on the verge of a call-up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Which probably suggests they had already discussed him and he was on the verge of a call-up anyway. Evidentally not just watching Welbeck and Cleverley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 The first real potential successor to Matty in terms of club standing, imo. And I say that as one who was fairly critical of him 2-3 years ago. You? Critical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Forgive me if I'm being an idiot, but who are you referring to? Paul Scholes presumably. A man so understated and professional that tabloid 'superstars' like Steven Gerrard ended up being higher up the pecking order despite being nowhere near the player. Scholes, IMO, is the best English player of his generation by a country mile. If he'd been Italian, they'd have built their entire squad around him for about 15 years. England didn't. More fool them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Evidentally not just watching Welbeck and Cleverley. Evidently not, considering both have already been called up in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Paul Scholes presumably. A man so understated and professional that tabloid 'superstars' like Steven Gerrard ended up being higher up the pecking order despite being nowhere near the player. Scholes, IMO, is the best English player of his generation by a country mile. If he'd been Italian, they'd have built their entire squad around him for about 15 years. England didn't. More fool them. Wasnt aware Scholes had played for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Are you for real ? If you mean "I don't know which of the thousands of Saints players who have played for England you think is our best ever", then yes, I am for real. Please clarify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshephard3 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Wasnt aware Scholes had played for us. A brief loan spell, don't you remember? I now know who you're talking about though, thanks. Does anyone fancy Lallana to play any part by the way? Maybe a last 10 mins sub? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_jas Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Fantastic news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 If you mean "I don't know which of the thousands of Saints players who have played for England you think is our best ever", then yes, I am for real. Please clarify. Nope, cant be bothered with your trolling, as exemplified by the highlighted section... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I just hope that if we are going to put someone on for the last twenty minutes then its not going to be yet another fast runner ; we've seen that already and we didnt win any medals with that alone. Instead I hope its Adam, a modern footballer, threading passes, keeping possession and making goals for himself, Defoe and Gerrard when he comes on for Milner who will have had yet another ineffective game doing whatever it is he does so predictably anonymously and to such little effect, apart from run around a lot and win the prozone most distance covered award. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Hodgson was at the United game as well. Seeing as Hodgson was actually shown direct from the Sky feed on the big screen at the ground (which I later learned was whilst Neville was waxing lyrical about Lallana) and it prompted "Lambert For England" from the back of the Northam [no comment ], I'm surprised there's anyone in the ground or watching on tv who didn't already know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 When does his contract run til? I know he signed one in the promotion for L1 year? Guess he will wait and see if we stay up before signing another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Seeing as Hodgson was actually shown direct from the Sky feed on the big screen at the ground (which I later learned was whilst Neville was waxing lyrical about Lallana) and it prompted "Lambert For England" from the back of the Northam [no comment ], I'm surprised there's anyone in the ground or watching on tv who didn't already know that. I wasn't at the game and missed seeing Hodgson on TV. So consider me scolded by you for not already knowing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Nope, cant be bothered with your trolling, as exemplified by the highlighted section... Oh come on, I had to specifically click on "View this Post" to see who you were referring to as well. I don't know why you have assumed people would know who you mean ? Do you mean Beattie, whose England "career" led to him moving to Everton but isn't one of our best ever ? You can't mean Matt Le Tissier, who played for Saints for years after his brief dalliance with England in the mid-late 90s, as England had nothing to do with his eventual retirement ? Mick Channon ? CB Fry ? Steve Williams ? Mark Wright ? Admittedly thousands was an exaggeration. Hundreds probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I wasn't at the game and missed seeing Hodgson on TV. So consider me scolded by you for not already knowing that. I said I was surprised, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Wow. Good luck to the lad. I just hope he doesn't get injured. I may even watch it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Forgive me if I'm being an idiot, but who are you referring to? So that's two of us then. Both "trolling", apparently... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintjersey Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 When does his contract run til? I know he signed one in the promotion for L1 year? Guess he will wait and see if we stay up before signing another. Summer of 2015 I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 So that's two of us then. Both "trolling", apparently... Three actually: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?39989-Lallana-called-up-for-England&p=1474253#post1474253 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Absolutely made up for him. League 1. Stayed with the club and gets a call up Absolutely fantastic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 There did seem to be a period in the 80s when, if a Saints player got in the England squad, they developed itchy feet and wanted to move eg. Steve Williams, Mark Wright, Danny Wallace. Lallana seems like an intelligent, level-headed chap and, as long as we stay in this division, hopefully will be happy to stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soggy Bottom Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 There did seem to be a period in the 80s when, if a Saints player got in the England squad, they developed itchy feet and wanted to move eg. Steve Williams, Mark Wright, Danny Wallace. Lallana seems like an intelligent, level-headed chap and, as long as we stay in this division, hopefully will be happy to stay here. Crouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 (edited) Three actually: http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?39989-Lallana-called-up-for-England&p=1474253#post1474253 I doubt we'll ever get an answer, you know how he doesn't like having to follow up his random spoutings with anything resembling rational thought. I should have known better than to try to engage in a discussion, especially when I'd already gone to the trouble of blocking him due to ill-thinking nonsense like this. Come to think of it, a simple "I meant ..." from him would result in a load of just people saying "oh", rather than granting the troll his craved "look at me" status. Still, I can live without knowing, and if he doesn't want to share that's his prerogative, so I won't mention it again. Edited 10 September, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Absolutely made up for him. League 1. Stayed with the club and gets a call up Absolutely fantastic Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 You have to laugh though. Lallana had to wait for his chance at Saints, struggle through with a team of no-hopers and cheap managers, go down to League 1, stay in League 1 despite proving infinitely too good for it, do it all over again, get used to a new manager, 'prove' himself in the championship despite already having played well there, play nearly every game for a club in the top 2 all season, get promoted to the premier league and made captain, THEN he can have a spot in a heavily injured England squad. A quicker rise would have been a) make a sub appearance for Liverpool. I would expect this to mean that this will actually mean something more to Adam then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Absolutely made up for him. League 1. Stayed with the club and gets a call up Absolutely fantastic This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I would expect this to mean that this will actually mean something more to Adam then. You'd hope so, Oxlade-Chamberlain's "shortcut to England" last season slightly bothered me because it was exactly the kind of example that you'd hope wouldn't be followed by academy scholars at Saints. I guess the overall decision-making process is a lot more complex on a day-to-day level, and I can understand that careers are short, but seeing Oxlade-Chamberlain leap from League One prospect to England starter in a couple of months just by getting a transfer to Arsenal's bench said a lot about the money and the opportunity that goes with being involved with certain top-flight teams compared to working your guts off to achieve something at a smaller club - not just Saints but anywhere. It's the kind of warped thinking that underpins the new academy rules, which will make stockpiling of kids at the top clubs much more likely. For as long as we're one of them we'll be ok, but there's no way that kind of dumping of talent makes for a more competitive league or helps anyone except the financial elite maintain their position. See Scott Sinclair at Chelsea and now Man City - clearly decent from what he did at Swansea, but who's going to see it now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I've always liked that Gary Neville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Now I'm thinking I might want to watch the England game tommorrow where is it being shown on the telly I Just assumed it would be on the BBC but the beeb website suggests not...is it on Sky or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Now I'm thinking I might want to watch the England game tommorrow where is it being shown on the telly I Just assumed it would be on the BBC but the beeb website suggests not...is it on Sky or something? It'll be on ITV, the BBC tend not to like to mention that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faz Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 If he does well there will be interest in him though. He's very good and clearly would be better around better players. Wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal or Liverpool took an interest. Does this make him as valuable as, say, ......Matt Jarvis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 If he does well there will be interest in him though. He's very good and clearly would be better around better players. Wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal or Liverpool took an interest. Liverpool have no need to sign him, they have a player in the same position of getting his first call up who has as much Prem experience and is therefore of exactly the same ability already. It is a little bizarre to think that there's an implication that Lallana and Sterling probably have equivalent amounts of experience to some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimond Geezer Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Now I'm thinking I might want to watch the England game tommorrow where is it being shown on the telly I Just assumed it would be on the BBC but the beeb website suggests not...is it on Sky or something? ITV 7.30pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Does this make him as valuable as, say, ......Matt Jarvis? Liverpool would probably take your arm off for Michael Ricketts or Kevin Davies at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I reckon he'll start and Ox will be the Theo style impact sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Well done Adam. Great news and well deserved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 From BBC: He [Hodgson] said the trio who had been drafted into the squad were unlikely to feature in Tuesday's match. "It was a good opportunity to invite some young players to come in and be part of the atmosphere," said Hodgson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I don't reckon he'll start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Funny that Lallana is considered a young player. I reckon of the 23 or so players he has more career apps than at least 7 or 8 of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I don't reckon he'll start Of course he won't. Will most likely sit on the bench, but chances of being picked in the enxt squad are higher. Clever move by Hodgson - great way to motivate a player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Funny that Lallana is considered a young player. I reckon of the 23 or so players he has more career apps than at least 7 or 8 of them. But not in the Premier League, hence my amusement regarding the parallels with similarly-featured rising Premier League star Raheem Sterling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 ITV 7.30pm Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint J 77 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Absolutely made up for him. League 1. Stayed with the club and gets a call up Absolutely fantastic I was thinking exactly the same. His loyalty has been repaid, really pleased for him! When was the last time we actually had a saints player who wasn't just about to leave in the England team? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Excellent news, for him. Since signing the 5 year deal the club has not looked back and now he get the recognition he deserves, all be it probably not a run out. Does England recognition really help or hinder? I guess it shows you can play for England if you play for Saints, but the last time I said that on here Bridge ****ed off five minutes later to Chelsea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 It'll be on ITV, the BBC tend not to like to mention that... Does that mean that numpty Chiles will be doing the punditry with Roy Keane:(....maybe I don't want to watch after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I was thinking exactly the same. His loyalty has been repaid, really pleased for him! When was the last time we actually had a saints player who wasn't just about to leave in the England team? The last time one got named 3 months from a transfer window being opened, I guess. Arguably Beattie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Does that mean that numpty Chiles will be doing the punditry with Roy Keane:(....maybe I don't want to watch after all They don't usually use Keane for the England matches, and they have Dixon now. Still Chiles-heavy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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