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Lallana called up for England.

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Saint_clark

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I agree; I just would normally have expected such call-ups to be for a friendly. But as you say, even if Roy has no intention of playing them, they will gain from the experience if they do get called up again.

 

Gary Neville would have seen first hand the ability of Lallana against Man United, so that's fairly encouraging if its been his influence that has led to the call-up.

 

Hodgson was at the United game as well.

doddisalegend

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I agree; I just would normally have expected such call-ups to be for a friendly. But as you say, even if Roy has no intention of playing them, they will gain from the experience if they do get called up again.

 

Gary Neville would have seen first hand the ability of Lallana against Man United, so that's fairly encouraging if its been his influence that has led to the call-up.

 

I thought Roy was at that game to?

Colinjb

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Which probably suggests they had already discussed him and he was on the verge of a call-up anyway.

 

Evidentally not just watching Welbeck and Cleverley.

rshephard3

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Forgive me if I'm being an idiot, but who are you referring to?

 

Paul Scholes presumably. A man so understated and professional that tabloid 'superstars' like Steven Gerrard ended up being higher up the pecking order despite being nowhere near the player. Scholes, IMO, is the best English player of his generation by a country mile. If he'd been Italian, they'd have built their entire squad around him for about 15 years. England didn't. More fool them.

alpine_saint

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Paul Scholes presumably. A man so understated and professional that tabloid 'superstars' like Steven Gerrard ended up being higher up the pecking order despite being nowhere near the player. Scholes, IMO, is the best English player of his generation by a country mile. If he'd been Italian, they'd have built their entire squad around him for about 15 years. England didn't. More fool them.

 

Wasnt aware Scholes had played for us.

The9

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Are you for real ?

 

If you mean "I don't know which of the thousands of Saints players who have played for England you think is our best ever", then yes, I am for real. Please clarify.

rshephard3

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Wasnt aware Scholes had played for us.

 

A brief loan spell, don't you remember? I now know who you're talking about though, thanks.

 

Does anyone fancy Lallana to play any part by the way? Maybe a last 10 mins sub?

alpine_saint

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If you mean "I don't know which of the thousands of Saints players who have played for England you think is our best ever", then yes, I am for real. Please clarify.

 

Nope, cant be bothered with your trolling, as exemplified by the highlighted section...

Giordano

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I just hope that if we are going to put someone on for the last twenty minutes then its not going to be yet another fast runner ; we've seen that already and we didnt win any medals with that alone. Instead I hope its Adam, a modern footballer, threading passes, keeping possession and making goals for himself, Defoe and Gerrard when he comes on for Milner who will have had yet another ineffective game doing whatever it is he does so predictably anonymously and to such little effect, apart from run around a lot and win the prozone most distance covered award.

The9

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Hodgson was at the United game as well.

 

Seeing as Hodgson was actually shown direct from the Sky feed on the big screen at the ground (which I later learned was whilst Neville was waxing lyrical about Lallana) and it prompted "Lambert For England" from the back of the Northam [no comment :)], I'm surprised there's anyone in the ground or watching on tv who didn't already know that.

The Kraken

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Seeing as Hodgson was actually shown direct from the Sky feed on the big screen at the ground (which I later learned was whilst Neville was waxing lyrical about Lallana) and it prompted "Lambert For England" from the back of the Northam [no comment :)], I'm surprised there's anyone in the ground or watching on tv who didn't already know that.

 

I wasn't at the game and missed seeing Hodgson on TV. So consider me scolded by you for not already knowing that.

The9

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Nope, cant be bothered with your trolling, as exemplified by the highlighted section...

 

Oh come on, I had to specifically click on "View this Post" to see who you were referring to as well. I don't know why you have assumed people would know who you mean ?

 

Do you mean Beattie, whose England "career" led to him moving to Everton but isn't one of our best ever ? You can't mean Matt Le Tissier, who played for Saints for years after his brief dalliance with England in the mid-late 90s, as England had nothing to do with his eventual retirement ? Mick Channon ? CB Fry ? Steve Williams ? Mark Wright ?

 

Admittedly thousands was an exaggeration. Hundreds probably.

The9

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I wasn't at the game and missed seeing Hodgson on TV. So consider me scolded by you for not already knowing that.

 

I said I was surprised, I didn't say there was anything wrong with it.

ecuk268

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There did seem to be a period in the 80s when, if a Saints player got in the England squad, they developed itchy feet and wanted to move eg. Steve Williams, Mark Wright, Danny Wallace.

 

Lallana seems like an intelligent, level-headed chap and, as long as we stay in this division, hopefully will be happy to stay here.

Soggy Bottom

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There did seem to be a period in the 80s when, if a Saints player got in the England squad, they developed itchy feet and wanted to move eg. Steve Williams, Mark Wright, Danny Wallace.

 

Lallana seems like an intelligent, level-headed chap and, as long as we stay in this division, hopefully will be happy to stay here.

 

Crouch

The9

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I doubt we'll ever get an answer, you know how he doesn't like having to follow up his random spoutings with anything resembling rational thought. I should have known better than to try to engage in a discussion, especially when I'd already gone to the trouble of blocking him due to ill-thinking nonsense like this. :facepalm:

 

Come to think of it, a simple "I meant ..." from him would result in a load of just people saying "oh", rather than granting the troll his craved "look at me" status. Still, I can live without knowing, and if he doesn't want to share that's his prerogative, so I won't mention it again.

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Colinjb

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You have to laugh though. Lallana had to wait for his chance at Saints, struggle through with a team of no-hopers and cheap managers, go down to League 1, stay in League 1 despite proving infinitely too good for it, do it all over again, get used to a new manager, 'prove' himself in the championship despite already having played well there, play nearly every game for a club in the top 2 all season, get promoted to the premier league and made captain, THEN he can have a spot in a heavily injured England squad.

 

A quicker rise would have been a) make a sub appearance for Liverpool.

 

I would expect this to mean that this will actually mean something more to Adam then.

The9

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I would expect this to mean that this will actually mean something more to Adam then.

 

You'd hope so, Oxlade-Chamberlain's "shortcut to England" last season slightly bothered me because it was exactly the kind of example that you'd hope wouldn't be followed by academy scholars at Saints.

 

I guess the overall decision-making process is a lot more complex on a day-to-day level, and I can understand that careers are short, but seeing Oxlade-Chamberlain leap from League One prospect to England starter in a couple of months just by getting a transfer to Arsenal's bench said a lot about the money and the opportunity that goes with being involved with certain top-flight teams compared to working your guts off to achieve something at a smaller club - not just Saints but anywhere.

 

It's the kind of warped thinking that underpins the new academy rules, which will make stockpiling of kids at the top clubs much more likely. For as long as we're one of them we'll be ok, but there's no way that kind of dumping of talent makes for a more competitive league or helps anyone except the financial elite maintain their position. See Scott Sinclair at Chelsea and now Man City - clearly decent from what he did at Swansea, but who's going to see it now ?

pingwing

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Now I'm thinking I might want to watch the England game tommorrow where is it being shown on the telly I Just assumed it would be on the BBC but the beeb website suggests not...is it on Sky or something?

 

It'll be on ITV, the BBC tend not to like to mention that...

Faz

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If he does well there will be interest in him though. He's very good and clearly would be better around better players. Wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal or Liverpool took an interest.

 

Does this make him as valuable as, say, ......Matt Jarvis?

The9

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If he does well there will be interest in him though. He's very good and clearly would be better around better players. Wouldn't be surprised if Arsenal or Liverpool took an interest.

 

Liverpool have no need to sign him, they have a player in the same position of getting his first call up who has as much Prem experience and is therefore of exactly the same ability already. ;)

 

It is a little bizarre to think that there's an implication that Lallana and Sterling probably have equivalent amounts of experience to some people.

Dimond Geezer

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Now I'm thinking I might want to watch the England game tommorrow where is it being shown on the telly I Just assumed it would be on the BBC but the beeb website suggests not...is it on Sky or something?

 

ITV 7.30pm

The9

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Does this make him as valuable as, say, ......Matt Jarvis?

 

Liverpool would probably take your arm off for Michael Ricketts or Kevin Davies at the moment. :D

The Kraken

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From BBC:

 

He [Hodgson] said the trio who had been drafted into the squad were unlikely to feature in Tuesday's match.

 

"It was a good opportunity to invite some young players to come in and be part of the atmosphere," said Hodgson.

The9

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Funny that Lallana is considered a young player. I reckon of the 23 or so players he has more career apps than at least 7 or 8 of them.

 

But not in the Premier League, hence my amusement regarding the parallels with similarly-featured rising Premier League star Raheem Sterling.

Saint J 77

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Absolutely made up for him.

 

League 1. Stayed with the club and gets a call up

 

Absolutely fantastic

 

I was thinking exactly the same. His loyalty has been repaid, really pleased for him!

 

When was the last time we actually had a saints player who wasn't just about to leave in the England team?

Chez

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Excellent news, for him. Since signing the 5 year deal the club has not looked back and now he get the recognition he deserves, all be it probably not a run out.

 

Does England recognition really help or hinder? I guess it shows you can play for England if you play for Saints, but the last time I said that on here Bridge ****ed off five minutes later to Chelsea.

The9

The9

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I was thinking exactly the same. His loyalty has been repaid, really pleased for him!

 

When was the last time we actually had a saints player who wasn't just about to leave in the England team?

 

The last time one got named 3 months from a transfer window being opened, I guess. Arguably Beattie...

The9

The9

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Does that mean that numpty Chiles will be doing the punditry with Roy Keane:(....maybe I don't want to watch after all

 

They don't usually use Keane for the England matches, and they have Dixon now. Still Chiles-heavy though.

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