Deano6 Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Yes, it's the annual Jackson's Farm thread, but I can't for the life of me remember what happened with it. Did Liebherr purchase it as part of the "Saints package" in taking us out of administration, or did it go to someone else? I remember there was a time when it was thought it was going to be worthless (was that just a bookkeeping thing because it would have been subject to a distressed sale in administration), as well as being part of an argument as to why the Saints HoldCo in admin had other ventures than just the club (so not "intrinsically linked"). And if we do still have it, are there any developments on having it turned into a block of flats or whatever to unlock its value? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Yes, it's the annual Jackson's Farm thread, but I can't for the life of me remember what happened with it. Did Liebherr purchase it as part of the "Saints package" in taking us out of administration, or did it go to someone else? I remember there was a time when it was thought it was going to be worthless (was that just a bookkeeping thing because it would have been subject to a distressed sale in administration), as well as being part of an argument as to why the Saints HoldCo in admin had other ventures than just the club (so not "intrinsically linked"). And if we do still have it, are there any developments on having it turned into a block of flats or whatever to unlock its value? ML bought all the assets of SLH including the farm. New government guidelines could unlock it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Although now owned by us, its value currently is only as agricultural land. And it is currently deemed by EBC to be part of the strategic gap between Hedge End/West End and Durley. But the housing at Grange Park goes pretty well right up to the boundaries of Jacksons Farm. If additional housing were to be required in that general area, Jackson's Farm would be a good candidate for it and the land value would soar. Another remote possibility is that there could be oil under the land, or maybe under the Grange Park development and access to it could come via JF. So it could be that sometime in the future that land could indeed bring in quite a substantial return to the club and to the Liebherrs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 ML bought all the assets of SLH including the farm. New government guidelines could unlock it. Derry .. Do you know if such guidelines would make the site a suitable location for a future new stadium, should NC decide to go down that route? Already owning the land would be a major advantage if NC is thinking new build and he has certainly mentioned this possibility in past missives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Been valued at everything between £500k to £50m on this forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffy Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Although now owned by us, its value currently is only as agricultural land. And it is currently deemed by EBC to be part of the strategic gap between Hedge End/West End and Durley. But the housing at Grange Park goes pretty well right up to the boundaries of Jacksons Farm. If additional housing were to be required in that general area, Jackson's Farm would be a good candidate for it and the land value would soar. Another remote possibility is that there could be oil under the land, or maybe under the Grange Park development and access to it could come via JF. So it could be that sometime in the future that land could indeed bring in quite a substantial return to the club and to the Liebherrs. I live on Grange Park, I'm going to get my drill out in the back garden and look for oil. If I become rich I'll pay everyones SWF fees for a whole year, and that's a promise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Although now owned by us, its value currently is only as agricultural land. And it is currently deemed by EBC to be part of the strategic gap between Hedge End/West End and Durley. But the housing at Grange Park goes pretty well right up to the boundaries of Jacksons Farm. If additional housing were to be required in that general area, Jackson's Farm would be a good candidate for it and the land value would soar. Another remote possibility is that there could be oil under the land, or maybe under the Grange Park development and access to it could come via JF. So it could be that sometime in the future that land could indeed bring in quite a substantial return to the club and to the Liebherrs. You say Wes the land belongs to us but surely you mean ML's estate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 You say Wes the land belongs to us but surely you mean ML's estate? Figure of speech. As far as I know the land was bought by ML as part of the package when he bought the club, so technically everything is part of his estate, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Where on a map is this land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Derry .. Do you know if such guidelines would make the site a suitable location for a future new stadium, should NC decide to go down that route? Already owning the land would be a major advantage if NC is thinking new build and he has certainly mentioned this possibility in past missives. There is going to be a consultation document published which will I presume show the detail. I'm not sure apart from employment that's what they have in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Figure of speech. As far as I know the land was bought by ML as part of the package when he bought the club, so technically everything is part of his estate, isn't it? Indeed - it was ours of course in the days we all had shares but, those days don't exist any more and I for one am not gonna give a view whether that is a good or bad thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Derry .. Do you know if such guidelines would make the site a suitable location for a future new stadium, should NC decide to go down that route? Already owning the land would be a major advantage if NC is thinking new build and he has certainly mentioned this possibility in past missives. Sounds good to me wouldn't mind the stadium being a 10 min drive from my house:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RonManager Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Sounds good to me wouldn't mind the stadium being a 10 min drive from my house:) The closer it gets to Somerset, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 7 September, 2012 Share Posted 7 September, 2012 Derry .. Do you know if such guidelines would make the site a suitable location for a future new stadium, should NC decide to go down that route? Already owning the land would be a major advantage if NC is thinking new build and he has certainly mentioned this possibility in past missives. I'm no expect but I guess going from 'farmland only' to 50,000 seater football stadium development is a bit of a big leap. Think they will do well to get permission for some nicely landscaped luxury housing development there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 I'm no expect but I guess going from 'farmland only' to 50,000 seater football stadium development is a bit of a big leap. Think they will do well to get permission for some nicely landscaped luxury housing development there. Good point, but what about the Rose Bowl (or whatever it's called now)? Bransgrove seemed to have the necessary clout to push that through in a strictly rural location, when you would have expected your above dictum to apply. Further developments no problem, and the council even pays for them! Cortese is fiercely determined when he wants something and the prestige, employment and money generated for the city by SFC must surely give him considerable influence in any negotiations with SCC. Not saying NC will want a stadium at JF and indeed it does currently look as if he is lining up an expanded SMS. However, there are issues and he may look outside the city if, for example, a redeveloped waterfront does not materialize or he cannot acquire land adjacent to the current stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 Where on a map is this land? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 Figure of speech. As far as I know the land was bought by ML as part of the package when he bought the club, so technically everything is part of his estate, isn't it? It's a good point though! Something bought as an asset of SLH is not necessarily kept as an asset of SFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 That is Wessex Vale Crematorium. Only holds about 120 people, and the atmosphere is terrible. Couldn't use that for a new ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 That is Wessex Vale Crematorium. Only holds about 120 people, and the atmosphere is terrible. Couldn't use that for a new ground. Not according to this... http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/jacksons-farm/bubb-lane/west-end/southampton/so30-2hl/28238662 And it is that postcode I put into Google Maps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 If it is under the control of the city council they would be mental to grant planning permission for a new stadium out there. No need, unnessessary transport ball-ache, taking footfall out of the city, and we've already got a ruddy new stadium. The local response would be very anti- and the whole thing completely lacks any logic at all. The city council would hate it. And I very much doubt Cortese is even considering it. If that land has value, it's not as a football stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 It won't be anything to do with the city. It is within the borough of Eastleigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrypward Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 I live very near to that. May I be the first to offer matchday parking. £150 (PL prices) to SWF members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 Not in my backyard thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 If it is under the control of the city council they would be mental to grant planning permission for a new stadium out there. No need, unnessessary transport ball-ache, taking footfall out of the city, and we've already got a ruddy new stadium. The local response would be very anti- and the whole thing completely lacks any logic at all. The city council would hate it. And I very much doubt Cortese is even considering it. If that land has value, it's not as a football stadium. Not for local saints fans:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 It won't be anything to do with the city. It is within the borough of Eastleigh. ...which makes it a slightly different case, although still a completely mental thing to do for myriad reasons. It won't happen anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 Not according to this... http://www.zoopla.co.uk/property/jacksons-farm/bubb-lane/west-end/southampton/so30-2hl/28238662 And it is that postcode I put into Google Maps. That is the Crematorium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 Not for local saints fans:) Don't you believe it! Lots of Saints fans living in nice areas don't neccessarily want the club at the bottom of their long garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 That is the Crematorium A crematorium with "3 Bedrooms, 1 Bathroom & 1 Reception room"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 That is the Crematorium Correct, I live on that road. Jackson's Farm is across the railway line and road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Steve Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 Hedge Ends ugly badly planned housing developments are spreading closer to the farm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 8 September, 2012 Share Posted 8 September, 2012 Been at a wedding reception at Mc Donalds Botley park hotel. And all the talk from the Golfers was about it being sold on , for a 3000 home development. :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 9 September, 2012 Share Posted 9 September, 2012 Been at a wedding reception at Mc Donalds Botley park hotel. And all the talk from the Golfers was about it being sold on , for a 3000 home development. :0 That's been in the pipeline for around 5 years and is nearing fruition as is development at Woodhouse Lane. Neither of which impact on Jacksons Farm though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NostalgicSheepFarmer Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 Does anyone have any news on Jacksons Farm? They started demolishing the farm buildings at the weekend! Don’t think they’ve touched the house yet. Thought it was a listed building but a Google search suggests not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 I dont see it listed on the eastleigh local plan for the next decade and the land is worth peanuts anyway, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daft Kerplunk Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 If it were Michael Jackson’s theme park, would that be valuable than Jackson’s farm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 On 07/09/2012 at 17:31, CB Fry said: Been valued at everything between £500k to £50m on this forum. But like James Ward Prowse 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 2 hours ago, NostalgicSheepFarmer said: Does anyone have any news on Jacksons Farm? They started demolishing the farm buildings at the weekend! Don’t think they’ve touched the house yet. Thought it was a listed building but a Google search suggests not! 11 year bump. Impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 Relegation is getting real if Jacksons Farm is a topic of conversation. What next - will we walk the championship? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 We’re not building the 60,000 seater then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 24 April, 2023 Share Posted 24 April, 2023 (edited) Quick, put the Rémy Martin back on ice... #HelpMeRhonda Edited 24 April, 2023 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 8 hours ago, St Chalet said: 11 year bump. Impressive. Skate 'humour.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 On 07/09/2012 at 17:31, CB Fry said: Been valued at everything between £500k to £50m on this forum. Not going to improve us much then is it? Only worth a James Bree on the low-side or a Tall-Paul, Sulemana and a Mara on the up-side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 11 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Administration is getting real if Jacksons Farm is a topic of conversation. What next - will we walk the championship? Edited for accuracy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 Thousands of houses are being built all around it and i dont see that green gap being used for it. Do we even own it anymore ? Like i said, its want £10M tops, whats that in the grand scheme of things these days ? I sky live match Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
do i not like fizzy pop Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 It's the ideal place for a monkey-chicken petting zoo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
so22saint Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 Could we moor Paul Allen's yacht there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 34 minutes ago, so22saint said: Could we moor Paul Allen's yacht there? You can try but it's not his yacht any more. Last time I saw it was in Málaga harbour a couple of weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stud mark of doom Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 Has Skachel signed yet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 25 April, 2023 Share Posted 25 April, 2023 5 hours ago, do i not like fizzy pop said: It's the ideal place for a monkey-chicken petting zoo? Maybe a giraffe pen for tall Paul? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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