Our Claus Posted 9 September, 2012 Share Posted 9 September, 2012 Tired of all these "look like Liverpool" comments. With traditional stripes you could just say "it looks like Sunderland / Stoke". With stripes you could also say "it looks like Southampton". No danger of that with this year's kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 September, 2012 Share Posted 9 September, 2012 Yep I like it. Dare to do something a bit different. Tired of all these "look like Liverpool" comments. With traditional stripes you could just say "it looks like Sunderland / Stoke". Dear oh dear. With stripes you could also say "it looks like Southampton". No danger of that with this year's kit. Perfect response. How on earth is looking like Stoke and Sunderland some terrible horrible thing all of a sudden, but looking like Liverpool, Notts Forest and Swindon is "daring to do something different"? What is this logic? As Our Claus says, why not just worry about looking like Southampton Football Club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SB Posted 9 September, 2012 Share Posted 9 September, 2012 Dear oh dear. Perfect response. How on earth is looking like Stoke and Sunderland some terrible horrible thing all of a sudden, but looking like Liverpool, Notts Forest and Swindon is "daring to do something different"? What is this logic? As Our Claus says, why not just worry about looking like Southampton Football Club? CB Fry, as my good friend Ronan once said: 'Life is a rollercoaster, Just gotta ride it.' HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfdelsur Posted 9 September, 2012 Share Posted 9 September, 2012 Got new shirt for me and my two boys this week, best shirt since the keegan kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 9 September, 2012 Share Posted 9 September, 2012 I still think it is awful. Saints have red and white stripes. The Sash was a nice touch for a year without the sponsor and so on, but we should play in red and white stripes because we are Southampton and that is that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 9 September, 2012 Share Posted 9 September, 2012 At least we've not had to change colour to suit the mass market - don't mind it personally, not classic by any means but it's SAINTS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Dear oh dear. Perfect response. How on earth is looking like Stoke and Sunderland some terrible horrible thing all of a sudden, but looking like Liverpool, Notts Forest and Swindon is "daring to do something different"? What is this logic? As Our Claus says, why not just worry about looking like Southampton Football Club? it's pretty simple logic but I think u confused urself by reversing the logic there, it's not liked because it looks like forest or Liverpool, it's liked for other reasons, but then it happens to look like that. and the stoke/Sunderland thing is just an example of wot u COULD say about stripes, if u are a hater, simples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 it's pretty simple logic but I think u confused urself by reversing the logic there, it's not liked because it looks like forest or Liverpool, it's liked for other reasons, but then it happens to look like that. and the stoke/Sunderland thing is just an example of wot u COULD say about stripes, if u are a hater, simples.Translation please. Tried Google Translate but it just got worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Saint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I have to say that I actually like the new red kit. I don't know what all the fuss is about. I liked the "sash" too. Maybe next year we can return to the 1960's classic red and white stripes...that would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Still dont like it. I dont mind doing away with the stripes- but we should always have red white and black imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Translation please. Tried Google Translate but it just got worse. if u need a translation then I'm guessing u clearly remember the Liverpool and forest shirts from the 80s. although I did write that on my fone whilst taking my morning ****, perhaps I have irritated vowel syndrome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Well I like it,wear mine with pride...don't understand all the moaning. What is it you have pride in though ? "The club" - but what is that exactly ? Is it the players on the pitch - most of whom leave within a few years ? The stadium is fixed (for the moment) - but we've only been there for 10 years and The Dell was also a "symbol of Saints". How about the chairman or owner - but they've only been here 3 years so far and surely can't embody the club, they didn't before they were involved, and other chairmen were never help us as the source of pride ? What about the badge - it's just an icon and also changes at the whim of a marketeer. How about the fans - though they are changing every season, both in number and composition. What about "the Southampton Way" - I'd love to see that defined in a way that doesn't also relate to a pile of other clubs you have no affinity with. If it is the shirt itself you're having pride in, based on the symbolism of that representing Saints - I'd ask how can it, when a lot of people won't even recognise it as representing Saints ? For some reason it has only been traditional stripes in 1 of the past 3 seasons. I love a good bit of design, but (unlike the sash) that isn't it - and where's the "pride" in mindlessly wearing whatever marketing crap they churn out to make themselves more money ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 if u need a translation then I'm guessing u clearly remember the Liverpool and forest shirts from the 80s.I vaguely remember their shirts in the 70's too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 What is it you have pride in though ? "The club" - but what is that exactly ? Is it the players on the pitch - most of whom leave within a few years ? The stadium is fixed (for the moment) - but we've only been there for 10 years and The Dell was also a "symbol of Saints". How about the chairman or owner - but they've only been here 3 years so far and surely can't embody the club, they didn't before they were involved, and other chairmen were never help us as the source of pride ? What about the badge - it's just an icon and also changes at the whim of a marketeer. How about the fans - though they are changing every season, both in number and composition. What about "the Southampton Way" - I'd love to see that defined in a way that doesn't also relate to a pile of other clubs you have no affinity with. If it is the shirt itself you're having pride in, based on the symbolism of that representing Saints - I'd ask how can it, when a lot of people won't even recognise it as representing Saints ? For some reason it has only been traditional stripes in 1 of the past 3 seasons. I love a good bit of design, but (unlike the sash) that isn't it - and where's the "pride" in mindlessly wearing whatever marketing crap they churn out to make themselves more money ? I realise it's been done to death, but we are not like Newcastle, a club that has never played in anything but stripes in living memory. I have been a Saints fan since the early 80s and we went almost all of that decade without playing in 'stripes'. I like a red and white striped kit but lets see what the next kit brings before we moan too much. If we are going to alternate red and white stripes with a non-striped kit I don't think many will have too much of an issue. It certainly makes more sense from a sense of how many can be sold as we won't have a red and white striped home kit, followed by a red and white striped home kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I realise it's been done to death, but we are not like Newcastle, a club that has never played in anything but stripes in living memory. I have been a Saints fan since the early 80s and we went almost all of that decade without playing in 'stripes'. I like a red and white striped kit but lets see what the next kit brings before we moan too much. If we are going to alternate red and white stripes with a non-striped kit I don't think many will have too much of an issue. It certainly makes more sense from a sense of how many can be sold as we won't have a red and white striped home kit, followed by a red and white striped home kit. It has been done to death, and the counter argument of course is that only in 2 of those seasons did we not play in something containing stripes of some sort. And the counter argument to THAT is that this season's kit is therefore stripes as well, to which the counters are that Liverpool didn't play in stripes in the 80s when they had a very similar kit (same for Forest in 1992), and the other argument is that if you count the white (pin)stripes you have to count the grey ones as well. As we said, done to death. I'm just trying to identify how wearing the shirt relates to "pride" from someone who has said that's what they get when they do that, which thankfully is a different discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Absolutely hate it and to have to listen to Wednesday, United and Rotherham fans take the mick is too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travelling Saint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 The shirts ok, still prefer red and white stripes though. I just wish we had black shorts and white socks as I feel that would look so much better and we wouldn't look so much like Liverpool from the 80's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I realise it's been done to death, but we are not like Newcastle, a club that has never played in anything but stripes in living memory. I have been a Saints fan since the early 80s and we went almost all of that decade without playing in 'stripes'. I like a red and white striped kit but lets see what the next kit brings before we moan too much. If we are going to alternate red and white stripes with a non-striped kit I don't think many will have too much of an issue. It certainly makes more sense from a sense of how many can be sold as we won't have a red and white striped home kit, followed by a red and white striped home kit. I'm pretty sure this is exactly what will happen. Especially given that football kits now change every single year (as opposed to every 2 years or even more in the not too distant past). So, from purely a commercial point of view, it makes entire sense to switch from stripes every year, there's really not a great deal different that you can do with standard red and white stripes with such a short turnaround of kit timings. I was never too bothered by the all red shirt, just the red shorts and socks are not my cup of tea. I often buy the team short just for use at 5-a-side; I'm not a fan of this one so I won't, which is really how it should work, I'd have thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Presumably, the boss thought Swiss Red would be a great tribute to Marcus Liebherr upon reaching te PL and for one season and one season only I'll support that but..... We are Southampton, we are red & white! Let's hope normal service will be resumed asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Presumably, the boss thought Swiss Red would be a great tribute to Marcus Liebherr upon reaching te PL and for one season and one season only I'll support that but..... We are Southampton, we are red & white! Let's hope normal service will be resumed asap. Well are red and white stripes Apart from when we have played in quarters, halves, other red solid kit, Be are Southampton we play in black shorts... Apart from nearly half of our existence where we had blue shorts etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints4everChris Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Everything about the Liebherr/Cortese takeover has been excellent EXCEPT the strange notion that the club didn't exist before 2009. The red shirts are symptomatic of that and it wouldn't surprise me if we never see a red and white striped shirt again. If only Nicola Cortese would accept the history of the club, the achievements of former teams and players (i.e. MLT) and our traditional red, white and black colours. There is no need to try to re-brand Southampton FC and it would not weaken Nicola Cortese's standing with the club and the supporters, it would strengthen it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Everything about the Liebherr/Cortese takeover has been excellent EXCEPT the strange notion that the club didn't exist before 2009. The red shirts are symptomatic of that and it wouldn't surprise me if we never see a red and white striped shirt again. If only Nicola Cortese would accept the history of the club, the achievements of former teams and players (i.e. MLT) and our traditional red, white and black colours. There is no need to try to re-brand Southampton FC and it would not weaken Nicola Cortese's standing with the club and the supporters, it would strengthen it. Do you not think you're going a bit overboard there? Cortese has had a fairly public spat with Lawrie, MLT and Benali. And, to be fair, most of it went public when those parties and not Cortese went to the papers about it. Cortese has certainly acted like a bit of a d*ck on a few occasions, but he has rarely been the one to stoke it all up in the press. Terry Paine was a guest of the club for the Man United game. As was Micky Channon. Jason Dodd works for the club in a coaching role. So lets not portray a figure of big bad Nicky eradicating every single part of Saints history prior to the takeover; its not altogether true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I realise it's been done to death, but we are not like Newcastle, a club that has never played in anything but stripes in living memory. I have been a Saints fan since the early 80s and we went almost all of that decade without playing in 'stripes'. I like a red and white striped kit but lets see what the next kit brings before we moan too much. If we are going to alternate red and white stripes with a non-striped kit I don't think many will have too much of an issue. It certainly makes more sense from a sense of how many can be sold as we won't have a red and white striped home kit, followed by a red and white striped home kit. I have already posted that I detest the new kit What bugs me most is when some people "insist" that it still has white stripes. Bullsh*t IMHO. Just makes it look like the seams of sewing various red bits together Cortese has not done much wrong, but he has no grip of Saints tradition. We may not always have had "purist" stripes, but it has always bee a relatively Red and White combo I DETEST looking like Liverpool in second hand hand me downs BRING BACK THE STRIPES ..... SAINTS STRIPES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1885 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I'd like to know if those people saying "it's just a kit", "it's just the stripes gone" or "don't understand what the fuss is about" would also say "no need to get upset, it's just a ground" if we should start playing our home matches at Fratton Park. Crest, kit, city, history + ground are the unique characteristics that build a club's identity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I'd like to know if those people saying "it's just a kit", "it's just the stripes gone" or "don't understand what the fuss is about" would also say "no need to get upset, it's just a ground" if we should start playing our home matches at Fratton Park. Crest, kit, city, history + ground are the unique characteristics that build a club's identity. I don't like the kit but that's a bit silly. I'm sure everyone would be up in arms about it if we were playing in blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I'd like to know if those people saying "it's just a kit", "it's just the stripes gone" or "don't understand what the fuss is about" would also say "no need to get upset, it's just a ground" if we should start playing our home matches at Fratton Park. Yes, that's entirely the same thing Crest, kit, city, history + ground are the unique characteristics that build a club's identity. We moved ground just over ten years ago; did we surrender all our history after that? We changed our badge in the 70s; was all previous history suddenly binned? Our kit in the 80s bore little relation to red and white stripes. Our original striped kit was with blue shorts and socks, gradually these evolved to the more familar black shorts and white socks. The kit is pretty sh*t, which is why I don't like it. I do have to laugh at the over-reaction of the "its a kick in the teeth of our history" brigade though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 As I've already said, it's no more "red and white" stripes than it is "red and grey". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Yes, that's entirely the same thing We moved ground just over ten years ago; did we surrender all our history after that? We changed our badge in the 70s; was all previous history suddenly binned? Our kit in the 80s bore little relation to red and white stripes. Our original striped kit was with blue shorts and socks, gradually these evolved to the more familar black shorts and white socks. The kit is pretty sh*t, which is why I don't like it. I do have to laugh at the over-reaction of the "its a kick in the teeth of our history" brigade though. Well, at least this is starting to address the "what actually constitutes the thing we support ?" question I raised earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Everything about the Liebherr/Cortese takeover has been excellent EXCEPT the strange notion that the club didn't exist before 2009. The red shirts are symptomatic of that and it wouldn't surprise me if we never see a red and white striped shirt again. If only Nicola Cortese would accept the history of the club, the achievements of former teams and players (i.e. MLT) and our traditional red, white and black colours. There is no need to try to re-brand Southampton FC and it would not weaken Nicola Cortese's standing with the club and the supporters, it would strengthen it. Complete tosh! 125th anniversary shirt/celebrations etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Complete tosh! 125th anniversary shirt/celebrations etc. I believe you may have opened a can of worms with the reference to "celebrations" - for instance, what exactly did the club do that the vast majority would have been aware of or bought into as a genuine celebration ? I'd have been delighted to have some kind of museum-type event, free attendance, ongoing publicity of the anniversary, introduction to key players from the club's history or a history recap every game for that season, or any other, better, club-instigated ideas. But none of those things happened (outside the usual confines of our excellent historians in the programme, and they do that every season). The 125 was basically just an excuse to sell a different football shirt to more people (it worked well too) and barely merited a mention all season. They've also since proven they don't need any reason at all to change the kit to something unrecognisable, making my cynicism a little more well-founded. The only celebration I can remember came as a result of promotion from League One, not the club's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 It's no more red and white striped than red and grey striped. And it clearly isn't red and grey striped, is it ? Or for the alternative angle, ask Liverpool fans about their red and white striped kits of the 1980s and see if they think you're insane. Stripes are Stripes, it's red and white striped. It's not plain red is it? therefore it's not a Liverpool kit. Our kit - Liverpool Kit - Don't even look vaguely similar, they aren't even the same colour. People are too fussy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 (edited) Stripes are Stripes, it's red and white striped. It's not plain red is it? therefore it's not a Liverpool kit. Our kit - Liverpool Kit - Don't even look vaguely similar, they aren't even the same colour. People are too fussy. I think you'll find people are referring to the early 1980s kit, made by Umbro and featuring pinstripes (but definitely not proper stripes). As was I, had you read it properly. Also, any team playing in all red looks vaguely like Liverpool, I've rechecked the cover of my WSC Season Preview about 4 times in the last 2 months to see which Saints player is on the front in the collage. It's Steven Gerrard. Finally, that's not actually our kit you've posted a link to. The collar is wrong, there's no contrast colour on the cuff and one of each pair of the pinstripes is the wrong colour too. As I've pointed out repeatedly, it's not red and white stripes, it's either "red", or it's "red and grey and white stripes". Edited 10 September, 2012 by The9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djharvey Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I believe you may have opened a can of worms with the reference to "celebrations" - for instance, what exactly did the club do that the vast majority would have been aware of or bought into as a genuine celebration ? I'd have been delighted to have some kind of museum-type event, free attendance, ongoing publicity of the anniversary, introduction to key players from the club's history or a history recap every game for that season, or any other, better, club-instigated ideas. But none of those things happened (outside the usual confines of our excellent historians in the programme, and they do that every season). The 125 was basically just an excuse to sell a different football shirt to more people (it worked well too) and barely merited a mention all season. They've also since proven they don't need any reason at all to change the kit to something unrecognisable, making my cynicism a little more well-founded. The only celebration I can remember came as a result of promotion from League One, not the club's history. Completely agree more could & should have been done to celebrate the 125 year anniversary. But for someone (not you) to say that NC does not accept any history of the club prior to 2009 is talking Complete Tosh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Completely agree more could & should have been done to celebrate the 125 year anniversary. But for someone (not you) to say that NC does not accept any history of the club prior to 2009 is talking Complete Tosh! It's difficult to know, IMHO, so not worth speculating. The evidence (including the Anniversary) suggests it's not high on his list of priorities. Not much of a problem when we're talking about developing a ground we've only had for 10 years or an academy setup that most people never see, but a little more spiky when it comes to ignoring (or otherwise) some of the club's most popular ex-players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 For me the best comparision is with Bath Rugby. Bath have this season completly changed their kit design (yet retained their colours) yet are still instantly identifiable as being Bath. Whilst we have retained our colours, we are not instantly recognisable as being Saints. For me that is the failing. It just doesn't feel like I'm watching Saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Rooney Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Love the new kit, at least its something a bit different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Before discussing the design of next years kit, we probably should be giving thought to which manufacturer we will sign up with (and for how long?). According to the denizens of this thread our esteemed supplier Umbro (which always sounds to me like a rapper!) has been put out of business by its parent Nike. Does this mean we will automatically revert to Nike kits then? Well possibly, but our Umbro contract expires at seasons end so presumably NC can negotiate with whomever he likes. I suspect NC would like a prestige brand such as Adidas or Nike, but then his Italian heritage may direct him to one of their brands. Alternatively the German heritage of our owners may lead us in the direction of Adidas or Puma. Then again NC may simply source out the best financial deal available and that may end up being a newish brand like Liverpool have. Finding out the supplier seems to be first base before considering the actual kit design as many manufacturers utilise only limited templates and we will then be able to unleash The9 to unravel the mysteries for us! In any event the new supplier has very likely already been chosen as I believe it is around about October that the actual design for next season has to be signed off by NC to allow the manufacturing process to be programmed. I wonder how long before our spies can lean on their snouts hard enough to cough up the new kit suppliers identity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 (edited) He might bring it back in house again with our new far east contacts got to be able to find a little sweat shop in Thailand or here in the Philippines, to chuck out a few hundred thousand deckchairs with arms, at a little over a couple of quid each. Transportation by Slow boat so that they arrive just before next season. To keep the fans on edge and interested. Dodgy bird to wear one online then get the team to wear them for the fans on a sat / Sun / Mon (we will stay up) to show them at their best and a nice little profit of about 8,800,000 to be had. Edited 10 September, 2012 by PhilippineSaint Grammar police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 I quite like the current Liverpool kit... will we be wearing that in 30 years or whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 He might bring it back in house again with our new far east contacts got to be able to find a little sweat shop in Thailand or here in the Philippines, to chuck out a few hundred thousand deckchairs with arms, at a little over a couple of quid each. Transportation by Slow boat so that they arrive just before next season. To keep the fans on edge and interested. Dodgy bird to wear one online then get the team to wear them for the fans on a sat / Sun / Mon (we will stay up) to show them at their best and a nice little profit of about 8,800,000 to be had. That doesn't really fit the Liebherr moral and ethical Christian Democratic model really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilippineSaint Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 That doesn't really fit the Liebherr moral and ethical Christian Democratic model really. I would like to say you don't become a multibillionaire with Morals and Ethics but in ML's case I just can't do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Think the club were trying to be too clever. I thought it looked cheap when it was released and haven't changed my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 10 September, 2012 Share Posted 10 September, 2012 Don't even look vaguely similar, they aren't even the same colour. People are too fussy. Yes, you're right. I mean one of those kits is red. While the other one is red. Not even vaguely similar, as you say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 September, 2012 Share Posted 11 September, 2012 Stripes are Stripes, it's red and white striped. It's not plain red is it? therefore it's not a Liverpool kit. Don't even look vaguely similar, they aren't even the same colour. People are too fussy. Tell you what Do the Red and White Stripes of the USA Flag, in the same way as our "New" kit is, and then ask any American if he will still accept it as Red and White Stripes No brainer really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 11 September, 2012 Share Posted 11 September, 2012 Tell you what Do the Red and White Stripes of the USA Flag, in the same way as our "New" kit is, and then ask any American if he will still accept it as Red and White Stripes No brainer really Nail on head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 11 September, 2012 Share Posted 11 September, 2012 Tell you what Do the Red and White Stripes of the USA Flag, in the same way as our "New" kit is, and then ask any American if he will still accept it as Red and White Stripes No brainer really Americans are stupid, those are hoops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 September, 2012 Share Posted 11 September, 2012 Tell you what Do the Red and White Stripes of the USA Flag, in the same way as our "New" kit is, and then ask any American if he will still accept it as Red and White Stripes No brainer really that's a really good example to compare lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 11 September, 2012 Share Posted 11 September, 2012 Just for the lolz, I'd like to point out that if you turn our home kit inside out, it's white with red sleeves and side panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 September, 2012 Share Posted 11 September, 2012 Just for the lolz, I'd like to point out that if you turn our home kit inside out, it's white with red sleeves and side panels. Even that would be more acceptable than the "mini" stripe Cortese Krap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponto1963 Posted 11 September, 2012 Share Posted 11 September, 2012 Hate it, possibly the worst home kit in our history. The white away kit on the other hand looks great. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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