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Since when did Fox go from one of the best Left Backs in the Championship last year to one of the worst left backs we've ever had.

Since it was decided on here. Pretty spectacular really. I'm all for a reasoned and constructive criticism but some of the stick Fox has had is ridiculous. People need to remember the likes of Lee Todd and Graham Potter before they start making silly judgements on Fox. He has made mistakes, he has been poor at times, but some of the reaction has been way OTT IMO.

 

Anyway, *if* Fox is injured then Clyne at left back is an option. Richardson won't be the best right back in the Prem but I suspect he can do a job and arguably deserves a chance if it comes his way.

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Has he even played a game this season? No.

 

He was our most unsung player last year. He had an excellent campaign. Would do a job for us for sure.

 

Yes he has he played CB against Stevenage....

 

He wasn't very good as CB, it was like having 2 right backs on the pitch and Seaborne being some sort of sweeper with no defensive line in front of him. Thankfully Stevenages forwards weren't all that.

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Why do fans make these outright judgements without any kind of justification (especially given that Richardson hasn't even played a game yet).

 

These threads are a bit pointless if that's all it's going to be:

 

Fox is ****.

 

No he's not.

 

Richardson is ****.

 

No he's not.

 

We need to recognise that the squad we have is the squad we have, and options like Clyne at left back may need to be looked at, not just dismissed out of hand.

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Since when did Fox go from one of the best Left Backs in the Championship last year to one of the worst left backs we've ever had. Yes we could do with another LB but I'd rather play a LB at LB and a RB at RB. Fox will do a job this season - is Fox the new Guly?

 

Fox was not one one of the 'best left backs in the Championship' - in fact he was a very long way from it and it's of little surprise that he's way off the pace in the Premier League.....The only surprise is that actually playing there!

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Fox was not one one of the 'best left backs in the Championship' - in fact he was a very long way from it and it's of little surprise that he's way off the pace in the Premier League.....The only surprise is that actually playing there!

 

Name better ones who were in the division last season ? McCartney ? Harte? Crainey? I'd much prefer Fox over them three.

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So Fox hasn't been great against the two best teams in the country, might it be better to judge him after he's played a few against some of the lesser lights in he league and had time to raise his game to the expected standard?

I do love how all fans write a player off after a couple of below par performances, i seem to remember Schneiderlin getting the same treatment in the last two seasons.

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So Fox hasn't been great against the two best teams in the country, might it be better to judge him after he's played a few against some of the lesser lights in he league and had time to raise his game to the expected standard?

I do love how all fans write a player off after a couple of below par performances, i seem to remember Schneiderlin getting the same treatment in the last two seasons.

 

Yeah and where's Schneiderlin now?

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Has he even played a game this season? No.

 

He was our most unsung player last year. He had an excellent campaign. Would do a job for us for sure.

 

Hmmmm, don't disagree that he had a good season but I have to agree with JPT and say that Richardsons short comings would be exposed in the prem, same as Fox. Neither really get tight enough and Richardson wouldnt be as effective going forwards IMO as he is a bit of a 1 trick pony. Think he'd get found out quickly

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http://www1.skysports.com/football/live/match/273495/facts

 

Suggesting here that Yoshida is playing left back for Japan against UAE on Thursday

 

Worth noting. Thanks for posting this. If accurate and yoshida can play LB, this could be our short term solution -- I reckon Fonte is a better CB than Fox is a LB (defensively to be fair. Fox is ok going forward) , so we might do better to put yoshida at LB until we sort out a longer term solution.

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Worth noting. Thanks for posting this. If accurate and yoshida can play LB, this could be our short term solution -- I reckon Fonte is a better CB than Fox is a LB (defensively to be fair. Fox is ok going forward) , so we might do better to put yoshida at LB until we sort out a longer term solution.

 

That could work. I Thought Richardson did a good job at RB last season so if Clyne can play at LB and things with Fox don't improve then I see no harm in switching Clyne to the left. That said, he's done a great job at RB, far better than I expected, so I don't think I'd want him to be over on the left as a long term solution.

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Shaw sounds like he will be the real deal, so i think the more he plays the better he will get and end up being our 1st choice LB next season, i thought foxs best game this season was man u.

 

Fox just needs a bit of support he cant handle too much pace, and to be honest he will be ok he just needs to learn hes got to defend more this season.

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Just found out that he played a few games for Palace and England age group teams as a left back.

If Fox continues to struggle, maybe he (Clyne) could play there and Richardson on the right QUOTE]

 

He maybe even better on the left.....it's not unknown and we have (historically) had a few full backs who could play on either flank.

 

Extra note: the list is longer than even I thought when I wrote it.

 

of course the legendary post war full backs Ellerington and Ramsey could play on either flank, as did Peter Sillett, and John Gregory in the 1950's...as well as John Page who also played CH.

 

Roy Patrick, Ken Jones and Stuart Williams also played in both shirts in the 60's. The (late / great) Steve Mills could play in either position ...as did Peter Rodrigues and Bob McCarthy on occasions.

 

One of my all time favourites... Jimmy Gabriel played in 4 different positions including CF in season 67/68, and even went as emergency goalie on one occasion.

 

FA Cup winning CH Jim Steele started with Saints as a LB as did Manny Adruszewski. Colin Waldron and Nick Holmes both played RB at times, as well as every left-sided role in the team, as did David Peach.

 

Dennis Rofe and Reuben Agboola could play on either side, and legendary RB Ivan Golac - even filled in as LB (in his second spell with Saints in 1984).

 

Both Dodd and Benali played both sides, and Ken Monkou and Claus Lundekvam both started as LB before converting to central defenders.

 

Why is it we can't ever think of players moving to another role / position in the team?

 

Who amongst us oldies can forget Lawrie McMenemy converting one-time apprentice goalie... Forbes Phillipson-Masters ... into a fairly respectable centre-half in one emergency situation?

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Just found out that he played a few games for Palace and England age group teams as a left back.

If Fox continues to struggle, maybe he could play there and Richardson on the right QUOTE]

 

he maybe even better on the left.....it's not unknown and we have (historically) had a few full backs who could play on either flank.

 

You've made a bloody hash of that quote dave

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