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On paper weaker than the two Manc clubs but I still don't see us getting anything from them. Will be interesting to see how our new signings fit into the team.

 

I'd go with a team of

 

Davis

 

Clyne - Yoshida - Hooiveld - Fox (if fit)

 

Davis - Morgan - JWP

 

Puncheon - Lambert - Lallana

 

 

Subs: Gazza, Fonte, Chaplow, Ramirez, Yukka, J Rod, Lee

 

What a bench that is BTW.

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This could be a really good game.

 

If we play as well as we can do then it should be great entertainment. One for the loss column I reckon, but a chance for Saints to impress people and continue up the learning curve.

 

2-4 loss in a cracking match.

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3-1 Arse. They will be too much for us. They play in a style that is similar to ours - keep ball. But with a team that probably averages 10% better than ours and can turn on pace into channels (something we don't seem capable of). If Ramirez is available for selection and fit, does anyone really think he will sit on the bench for 75 minutes against Arse? I don't believe NC will want to see £12m sat on the bench - do you? I would hope for...

 

Mayuka Rodrigues (Lambo) Ramirez

 

(Chappers) Lallana Morgan Davis

 

Fox (if fit) Jos Fonte (Yoshi) Clyne

 

.............. Davis

 

Lambert (JRod), Yoshi (Fonte) and Chappers (Mayuka) on as subs to see out the game. Easy eh?! ;)

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-----------Davis

Clyne - Fonte - Hooiveld - Fox

-----------Schneiderlin-----------

--------Davis--------JWP--------

Ramirez----Lambert----Lallana

 

Gazza, Frazer, Yoshi, Puncheon, J-Rod, Mayuka, Lee

 

If Cork isn;t fit yet that is what we should do! Maybe give Yoshi a go instead of Fonte but only maybe...

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3-1 Arse. They will be too much for us. They play in a style that is similar to ours - keep ball. But with a team that probably averages 10% better than ours and can turn on pace into channels (something we don't seem capable of). If Ramirez is available for selection and fit, does anyone really think he will sit on the bench for 75 minutes against Arse? I don't believe NC will want to see £12m sat on the bench - do you? I would hope for...

 

Mayuka Rodrigues (Lambo) Ramirez

 

(Chappers) Lallana Morgan Davis

 

Fox (if fit) Jos Fonte (Yoshi) Clyne

 

.............. Davis

 

Lambert (JRod), Yoshi (Fonte) and Chappers (Mayuka) on as subs to see out the game. Easy eh?! ;)

 

Lambert on bench? Mental

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I'd play one of these two lineups:

 

........................Davis

Clyne - Yoshida - Hooiveld - Fox

-------------Schneiderlin-----------

-----------Davis-------JWP--------

Ramirez------Lambert----Lallana

 

..........................Davis

Clyne - Yoshida - Hooiveld - Fox

Schneiderlin - Davis

Puncheon - Ramirez - Lallana

Lambert

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I'd play Shaw ahead of Fox, he's simply a better defender.

 

Gaston should play as should Yoshida.

 

He's not a better defender on any evidence I've seen so far, he was bloody rubbish at defending at Stevenage, only decent going forward with the ball. Though as noted above, he was ill the following day. Though it didn't stop him making one Balesque driving run.

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I'd play one of these two lineups:

 

........................Davis

Clyne - Yoshida - Hooiveld - Fox

-------------Schneiderlin-----------

-----------Davis-------JWP--------

Ramirez------Lambert----Lallana

 

..........................Davis

Clyne - Yoshida - Hooiveld - Fox

Schneiderlin - Davis

Puncheon - Ramirez - Lallana

Lambert

 

 

Yep, I'd go with that........................

................ Davis

Clyne - Yoshida - Hooiveld - Fox

.........Schneiderlin - Davis

Puncheon - Ramirez - Lallana

..............Lambert

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He was hospitalised through illness soon after this game. Do you not think that this may have contributed a little towards his average display?

 

edit: refering to Shaw v Stevenage

 

so ur evidence that he's better is he might have been affected by a mysterious illness in his only first team start?

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I've given up trying to predict our starting line-up, Lambert has his limitations but evidently can still score goals (and even his favourite far post header) if we win possession in the opposition's half when we have numbers forward (viz Man U) which is something I wasn't expecting us to have as a threat.

 

So with that in mind, it depends entirely on whether Adkins wants to use Ramirez as a foil to Lambert's big man stuff to attack Arsenal with a varied attack, or whether we are able to get the coaching in place to enable the team to benefit from Mayuka's obvious pace.

 

I suspect we won't be ready to unleash Mayuka yet, just us Lee and Sharp's penetrating runs were ignored in the second half of last season. We don't play many through balls, though that's at least partially due to that not being one of Lambert's strengths. So for now, Lambert is the safer option.

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so ur evidence that he's better is he might have been affected by a mysterious illness in his only first team start?

 

That was not the first team by any stretch of the imagination, but he looked about as comfortable at left back as Richardson did at CB, which was "not very". Lots of hoofing, some terrible decision making (letting the ball bounce, played at least one dubious backpass and put Seaborne under pressure as well) and generally much better attacking than defending, against a League One side who signed two strikers the following week.

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so ur evidence that he's better is he might have been affected by a mysterious illness in his only first team start?

 

I was asking if it's a consideration. He was hosptialised soon after the game, may not have been 100%. Never said it was evidence that he's better than anyone

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-----------------DAVIS---------------------

CLYNE---YOSHI---HOOIVELD---FOX

---------------MORGAN------------------

---------DAVIS----------JWP--------------

RAMIREZ----------------------LALLANA

---------------LAMBERT-------------------

 

Subs: Gazza, Frazer, Fonte, Cork, Puncheon, Mayuka, Rodriguez

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-----------------DAVIS---------------------

CLYNE---YOSHI---HOOIVELD---FOX

---------------MORGAN------------------

---------DAVIS----------JWP--------------

RAMIREZ----------------------LALLANA

---------------LAMBERT-------------------

 

Subs: Gazza, Frazer, Fonte, Cork, Puncheon, Mayuka, Rodriguez

 

How the hell could you drop punch after the other day?

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It's amazing how quickly the eye returns to it's old habits of looking at the bottom of the table first. I mean it took 2 years to get used to looking for us at the top, but I was straight back into the old routine soon as we lost the wigan game. Like riding a bicycle!

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Last years start was something special, I haven't seen a start like that in all my years supporting Saints. As long as the table come the end of the year looks much better, then I suppose thats all the matters :)

 

 

And if I remember correctly, this place was full of people saying that we still have the best sides in the division to play, we're only an injury or two away from the wheels coming off, should have done better in the transfer market, it won't last etc etc....... just shows that a lot of **** spouted off on here is often not close to the truth at all, despite how highly some rate their own opinions....quite comforting actually : )

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How the hell could you drop punch after the other day?

 

He did play very well, but so did everyone else in our midfield. Lallana was great out wide and the trio of Davis, Schneiderlin and JWP in the middle was also very good. Ramirez will start. Punch may feel aggrieved but he's not guaranteed a place.

 

I'm more worried about dropping Lee from the bench than dropping Punch from the Starting XI.

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He did play very well, but so did everyone else in our midfield. Lallana was great out wide and the trio of Davis, Schneiderlin and JWP in the middle was also very good. Ramirez will start. Punch may feel aggrieved but he's not guaranteed a place.

 

I'm more worried about dropping Lee from the bench than dropping Punch from the Starting XI.

I thought puncheon was a lot better than lallana...maybe lallana to miss out..?

 

I would not drop Lee from the bench..GULY to be dropped from the bench

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