ART Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 I wonder if someone, namely David from Sweden or another who keeps all the club records would be so kind and post the first 10 results from our 27 years in top flight. I recall that most years we were pretty poor getting off th mark, but having the records for all to ponder over might put some prospective into how our first season back in the Premier League might pan out. Many thanks in advance to whoever fulfills my request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 I wonder if someone, namely David from Sweden or another who keeps all the club records would be so kind and post the first 10 results from our 27 years in top flight. I recall that most years we were pretty poor getting off th mark, but having the records for all to ponder over might put some prospective into how our first season back in the Premier League might pan out. Many thanks in advance to whoever fulfills my request. I certainly recall us having poor starts almost as the rule rather than the exception. Perhaps some have selective memories and have grown unused to us having faltering starts like this. But personally I'm much happier getting the top teams out of the way earlier like this. Although there was disappointment at losing to Wigan, the TV pundits generally have been impressed with how we have played both Manc teams and surmise that if we continue to play as well as we did against them, we'll have few worries about survival. A bit of a run against the lesser lights in the division and we'll soon start climbing the table and our chances of doing that will be increased once we have the full squad available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Last time we were promoted. 2 wins from first 10 games ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 19Aug 1978 Norwich 3 - 1 Southampton ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Tu 22Aug 1978 Southampton 2 - 2 Bolton ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 26Aug 1978 Southampton 2 - 1 Middlesbro ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 02Sep 1978 Aston Villa 1 - 1 Southampton ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 09Sep 1978 Southampton 3 - 2 Wolves ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 16Sep 1978 Bristol C 3 - 1 Southampton ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 23Sep 1978 Derby 2 - 1 Southampton ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 30Sep 1978 Southampton 1 - 2 Ipswich ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 07Oct 1978 Everton 0 - 0 Southampton ENGLISH DIV 1 (OLD) Sa 14Oct 1978 Southampton 1 - 1 QPR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 (edited) Think this accurate, last 15 years in top flight. 98/99 lost 7 out of the first 8 games!!! 22 team league 91/92 LLWLDLDL FINAL POSITION 16TH 92/93 DLDLWDLL FINAL POSITION 18TH 93/94 LLLWLLLL FINAL POSITION 18TH 94/95 DDLLWDWW FINAL POSITION 10TH 20 TEAM LEAGUE 95/96 LLDWDLLD FINAL POSITION 17TH 96/97 DLLDLLLW FINAL POSITION 16TH 97/98 LLLWLLDL FINAL POSITION 12TH 98/99 LLLLLDLL FINAL POSITION 17TH 99/00 WLWLWLLD FINAL POSITION 15TH 00/01 DLDDLWWL FINAL POSITION 10TH 01/02 LLLWLWLL FINAL POSITION 11TH 02/03 DLDLWLDD FINAL POSITION 8TH 03/04 DDDWWWLL FINAL POSITION 12TH 04/05 LWLLDLLD FINAL POSITION 20TH Edited 3 September, 2012 by Ian the Red Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonnyLove Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 97/98 LLLWLLDL FINAL POSITION 12TH i'd take that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 97/98 LLLWLLDL FINAL POSITION 12TH i'd take that Lowe/Jones first season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Here's the 27 seasons in the top flight, first 8 games: 20 Team League 04/05 LWLLDLLD FINAL POSITION 20TH 03/04 DDDWWWLL FINAL POSITION 12TH 02/03 DLDLWLDD FINAL POSITION 8TH 01/02 LLLWLWLL FINAL POSITION 11TH 00/01 DLDDLWWL FINAL POSITION 10TH 99/00 WLWLWLLD FINAL POSITION 15TH 98/99 LLLLLDLL FINAL POSITION 17TH 97/98 LLLWLLDL FINAL POSITION 12TH 96/97 DLLDLLLW FINAL POSITION 16TH 95/96 LLDWDLLD FINAL POSITION 17TH 22 Team League 94/95 DDLLWDWW FINAL POSITION 10TH 93/94 LLLWLLLL FINAL POSITION 18TH 92/93 DLDLWDLL FINAL POSITION 18TH 91/92 LLWLDLDL FINAL POSITION 16TH 20 Team League 90/91 DWLLWLLD FINAL POSITION 14TH 89/90 LWLWDDWD FINAL POSITION 7TH 88/89 WWWDLDLL FINAL POSITION 13TH 21 Team League 87/88 DWDLDDLL FINAL POSITION 12TH 22 Team League 86/87 WLLWLLWD FINAL POSITION 12TH 85/86 DLLDDDWL FINAL POSITION 14TH 84/85 LDLLDWDD FINAL POSITION 5TH 83/84 WDWDWWLW FINAL POSITION 2ND 82/83 LLWLDLLW FINAL POSITION 12TH 81/82 LWWDWLLW FINAL POSITION 7TH 80/81 WDWWWLDL FINAL POSITION 6TH 79/80 DDLWWWDW FINAL POSITION 8TH 78/79 LDWDWLLL FINAL POSITION 14TH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 (edited) I wonder if someone, namely David from Sweden or another who keeps all the club records would be so kind and post the first 10 results from our 27 years in top flight. I recall that most years we were pretty poor getting off th mark, but having the records for all to ponder over might put some prospective into how our first season back in the Premier League might pan out. Many thanks in advance to whoever fulfills my request. This was a he** of a question ART ..but I happened to be on a free afternoon, and I'd recently considered the same thing... .so here goes (with explanatory notes) Hee is the list of the first ten games played since 1978, Firstly theOld Div.1 table was based on 42 games and only 2pts./win.and Prem. from 1992 season...W-D-L .....pts.... .position...........................final position 1978-79 ...2-4-4 ...... 8......... 18 first win game 3 .......14 1979-80 ....5-3-2 ......13..........6 first win game 4.........7 1980-81.....5-2-3.......12..........5 first win game 1.........5 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1981.82.....5-2-3.......17.......... 7 first win game 2........7..........3 pts./win introduced 1982-83.....5-1-4.......16.........19 first win game 3.......12 1983-84.....6-2-2.......20 ..........5 first win game 1...... .2 1984-85.....2-4-4.......10..........12 first win game 6........5 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- End of McMenemy era. 1985-86 ....1-5-4....... ..8.........20 first win game 7........14-----first season Chris Nicholl as manager 1986-87.....4-1-5...... .13.........13 first win game 1....... 12-----Matt Le Tissier debut season 1987-88.....2-4-4....... 10.........17 first win game 2........12 ----won only game 2 after which 7 without a win.. 1988-89.....4-3-3........15...........6 won first 3 games.....13 ----won 1,2,3 ....then no win in next 6 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------League reduced to 38 games (20 teams) 1989-90.....5-3-2........18..........6 first win game 2........7------MLT 20 goals 1990-91.....3-2-5........11.........14 first win game 2...... 14-----MLT 19 goals (Chris Nicholl sacked -Ian Branfoot new manager). 1991-92.....2-2-6..........8.........19 first win game 3.......16----Alan Shearer 13 goals in his last season.. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------PREMIER LEAGUE introduced with 22 teams 1992-93.....2-4-4.........10........15 first win game 5.......18-----MLT 15 goals 1993-94.....1-1-8..........4.........21 first win game 4.......18 ----MLT 25 goals (despite only one win in first 10 games) Ian Branfoot sacked in March - Alan Ball appointed new manager 1994-95.....4-3-3.........15........10 first win game 5........10----MLT 20 goals 1995-96.....1-3-6..........6.........18 first win game 4........17----Alan Ball leaves, Dave Merrington one season as manager. Saints score only 34 league goals for - our lowest ever in Prem.. 1996-97.....2-3-5..........9.........17 first win game 8........16----Graeme Souness manager for one season. MLT 13 goals Östenstad 9. 1997-98.....2-1-7..........7.........19 first win game 4........12----new manager Dave Jones. MLT 11 goals, Östenstad 11, Kevin Davies 9, David Hirst 9 1998-99.....1-2-7..........5.........20 first win game 10......17----The Great Escape...Saints win last 3 games and stay up. New signing Marian Pahars scores 2 in our last League game. 1999-00.....3-2-5.........11........14 first win game 1........15 ---Pahars 13 goals. Dave Jones goes on leave. Glenn Hoddle takes over as manager. 2000-01.....2-4-4 ........10........17 first win game 6........10----Beattie 11 goals, Pahars 9 2001-02 ....2-1-7.........7..........18 first win game 4........11----Pahars 14 goals, Beattie 12, Stuart Gray sacked after 9 games . Gordon Strachan new manager. 2002-03.....3-4-3.........13........12 first win game 5..........8----Beattie 23 goals (all in space of only 26 games) ------after which Strachan left and the " managerial carousel" began. But things went form bad to worse and Saints were finally relegated in 2005. unfortunately, my info is very dependent on In that Number, and a poor memory and so I only have accurate stats. to 2003. I always say that stats. tell us something, but as we have had umpteen managers and a hundred plus players in this time, it's hard to blame either of those groups. However, the stats do show that we are notoriously poor starters - even in seasons when we eventually did well. We've had good ...and sometimes downright terrible squads - but if I had to give a typically English excuse I might blame... .the weather. If you think I'm joking...you can see from the lists that we rarely win much before game 4-5 and I can't remember how many times I've heard that a home game played on a blazing hot day with 25 deg C. in mid August ...made for a poor result in exhausting conditions. Don't take me too seriously ...but I've short of other ideas. David in Sweden. What you can predict is that if we have 10 points by October we stand a fair chance of staying above the "drop zone 2 .and that (historically at least) we tend to play better after New Year than before... Edited 4 September, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwaysaint Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Well, I can certainly see why some people had higher expectations for a better start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Am I reading that right? In premier league history we've only won one of our first 3 games (in 11 seasons of trying)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeather Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 It's all at Soccerbase - http://www.soccerbase.com/teams/team.sd?team_id=2471&comp_id=1&teamTabs=results (Use 'choose another season' to see other seasons - goes back to 1920/21 for league results) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Am I reading that right? In premier league history we've only won one of our first 3 games (in 11 seasons of trying)? And I dont expect they were all involving the two best sides in the league 2 seasons after League 1football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Am I reading that right? In premier league history we've only won one of our first 3 games (in 11 seasons of trying)? ..or putting it ANOTHER way... we have once won more than 3 of our first 10 games 1994-95 .....and 3 times since 1992 we only won ONE of the first 10 games....but we still survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ART Posted 3 September, 2012 Author Share Posted 3 September, 2012 I have to say a huge thank you to each and everyone for these statistics of our opening season results. It does give our current dilemma some prospective and few previous seasons saw so much money spent on improving our squad. Yet the Premier League standards have moved on and rarely was the standards higher than they are at present. It's not the end all but the fact we didn't address the goalkeeping position and defense does leave me concerned more than in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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