Mr X Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I know it's early days but he really does remind me of de ridder from what I've seen so far lots of aimless running with the ball in circles only to immediately lose possession. Opinions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I find his signing more and more bizarre with every game I see him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Been played completely out of position imho so difficult to judge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 He is a centre forward. he has not played as a centre forward yet so it is impossible to judge. Thing is with Lambert proving already he will score goals in this league Jay Rod looks an expensive sub to me. I think if he continues to be plonked out on the left it will destroy his confidence cos he just isnt very good in that position. NA has had two chances to play him in his favoured position, against Man City from the start then again today as a straight swap for Rickie. He has not taken either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I was surprised he came onto the wing position today - I thought the Mayuka signing, coupled with Sharp leaving on loan mean't he was nailed onto be Rickie's alternative option down the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Long term Lambert replacement. Remember he's only a nipper and wasted out of position so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Lambert's successor! Play Lambert on the left wing and how do you think he will fare? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Wasted completely on the wing. De Ridder on the other hand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 So if J-rod is Lambert's successor why is he being played out wide rather than a straight swap for Lambert when Lambert is knackered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Much happier with al on the left finally. Does not look comfortable, I think he must be pretty frustrated playing there. Needs to be rickies understudy. Guly should have gone right, mayuka left, jrod central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 So if J-rod is Lambert's successor why is he being played out wide rather than a straight swap for Lambert when Lambert is knackered? I thought he should've played through the middle when Rickie came off today, but you could see that Kelvin's distribution switched very much to that left wing with Jay Rod where he was winning those headers against Rafael and starting play from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Long term Lambert replacement. Remember he's only a nipper and wasted out of position so far. He's 23. Hardly in the same bracket as someone like JWP, he's a year younger than Lallana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I think this is what happened to Kevin Davies when sold him to Blackburn, funnily enough for a similar sum. Couldn't dislodge the incumbent centre forward and marooned off to the wing. Doesn't score, what a waste of money, good riddance. Lets hope manager and player find a way, although now we have 57 forwards to choose from I am not sure this will end well for our Jay. Who remembers being excited when we signed him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 If he continues to be played on the wing then it is a waste of money,we should of actually bought a player that is used to playing there,the boy looks miserable in the photo on the side of st Mary's and he looks miserable when he comes on,I bet he wishes he was back up north and had never signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 (edited) Even when he's got the ball, his touch has been poor. And this idea that he's being used as a winger is b@ll@ck$ - he's used as a target man/outball, exploiting the mismatch between him and the fullback. Its not as if this is new. While Rickie has played down the middle, he's been happy to roam/drift to the sides for the same reason. With Jrod the role is more fixed and ideally he would be played down the middle but the position still plays to a number of his strengths. Thats to say, I dont buy the argument that his performances are wholly down to where he's being played. Edited 2 September, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I find his signing more and more bizarre with every game I see him in. I find it biazzare that he plays wide left...I also find it odd how many attackers we now have Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I find his signing more and more bizarre with every game I see him in. Imagine that money going on a proven, experienced solid Left Back, Centre Back or Goal Keeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Imagine that money going on a proven, experienced solid Left Back, Centre Back or Goal Keeper. Unless Lambert is out for a fair few games I can see Rodriguez leaving by this time next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 He's got Rickie to learn from, he'll be fine long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Even when he's got the ball, his touch has been poor. And this idea that he's being used as a winger is b@ll@ck$ - he's used as a target man/outball, exploiting the mismatch between him and the fullback. Its not as if this is new to any of us. While Rickie has played predominantly down the middle, he's been happy to roam/drift to the sides for the same reason. With Jrod the role is more fixed and ideally he would be played down the middle but the position still plays to a number of his strengths. Thats to say, claims that his performances are wholly down to where he's being played are unconvincing. Saw him play against us last year, in pre season a bit and then for the games so far this term and I still don't really get it. Odd signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 As others have said, I was underwhelmed by his signing and particularly for the money we paid. He really needs to be Rickie's back-up now we've got so many alternatives. Today at 2-1 up, I would rather have seen Chaplow come on than see JayRod look lost out on the wing - it just ain't working and we'll get punished time and time again if it's not sorted out soon. And if NA doesn't sort it out then I will start to think NA has not got full charge of his team - woe betide NC if it's proven that NA is being tampered with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Unless Lambert is out for a fair few games I can see Rodriguez leaving by this time next year Mayuka ahead of him already though? I'll throw this out there now - Adkins signings v recent Cortese signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 As others have said, I was underwhelmed by his signing and particularly for the money we paid. He really needs to be Rickie's back-up now we've got so many alternatives. Today at 2-1 up, I would rather have seen Chaplow come on than see JayRod look lost out on the wing - it just ain't working and we'll get punished time and time again if it's not sorted out soon. And if NA doesn't sort it out then I will start to think NA has not got full charge of his team - woe betide NC if it's proven that NA is being tampered with. I'm not Chaplow's biggest fan by a long way, but I strangely felt he'd have done a top job as a sub for the last 10mins today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I'd actually have JRod up top and Lambert wide. OK, Lambert is an excellent target man, but he also has the footballing brain to create attacking moves, and his cross for Morgan was exquisite. That said, with Mayuka and Ramirez on board, and Puncheon seamingly in good form, it's touch to choose the front three. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I'm finding it hard not to say that we don't need him. The performances by Lallana, Puncheon and Lambert today, along with Gaston and Mayuka coming in too, will resign him to the bench I think, unless we have a spout of injuries/suspensions. Oh to have had £7million to spend on a LB/CB. I do feel sorry for him though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 (edited) I'm not Chaplow's biggest fan by a long way, but I strangely felt he'd have done a top job as a sub for the last 10mins today. Yep, pretty sure that if we had a midfielder on the bench, they would have been preferred to a striker. The addition of the Guly/Jrod made sense as both were fresh and are willing workers. We lost it, not because they came on but because the midfield ran out steam and we couldn't make like for like replacements. Chaplow, even Hammond would have offered something not to mention Cork. Edited 2 September, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swannymere Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 We never learn, please don't be judging a player who's only 3 games into his Saints career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stdavid Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Yes, give the boy a chance! I thought he played well at City, I was there and he won a lot of the ball in that game. We're only 3 games in, people need to chill out a bit. Long way to go yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggles31 Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 For me he is wasted on the wing and should play as a CF. Lambert's future replacement for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadgerBadger Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Loan J Rod - keep Sharp?????????????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 reminds me of us getting Beattie, I thought his first couple of seasons he was crap but improved remarkably in the following years. Think the price tag doesnt help JR here..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 I know it's early days but he really does remind me of de ridder from what I've seen so far lots of aimless running with the ball in circles only to immediately lose possession. Opinions? Its too early to say. I would argue he needs to be given time. Its not fair on the lad, espeically if he is being used in a strange manner. I do however question the priority in time and funds his transfer was given over addressing the defnesive issues. And I have already made my feelings known about the favouring of him over Billy Sharp (to much derision..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 He is a centre forward. he has not played as a centre forward yet so it is impossible to judge. Thing is with Lambert proving already he will score goals in this league Jay Rod looks an expensive sub to me. I think if he continues to be plonked out on the left it will destroy his confidence cos he just isnt very good in that position. NA has had two chances to play him in his favoured position, against Man City from the start then again today as a straight swap for Rickie. He has not taken either. Quite. I worry that we have signed a promising young centre forward, yet seem detemined to undermine his confidence by playing him out of position. The really weird thing was Nigel taking off Lambert yesterday but putting Mayuka in the middle and still JRod on the wing. I noticed that Kelvin's long kicks were all aimed to the left from then on, at JRod --because he is a target man. Surely it would have made more sense to put Guly and Mayuka on the wings with JRod in the middle? It's a bit like buying a Ferrari , using it as a tractor, then complaining it isn't very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surrey1saint Posted 3 September, 2012 Share Posted 3 September, 2012 Quite. I worry that we have signed a promising young centre forward, yet seem detemined to undermine his confidence by playing him out of position. The really weird thing was Nigel taking off Lambert yesterday but putting Mayuka in the middle and still JRod on the wing. I noticed that Kelvin's long kicks were all aimed to the left from then on, at JRod --because he is a target man. Surely it would have made more sense to put Guly and Mayuka on the wings with JRod in the middle? It's a bit like buying a Ferrari , using it as a tractor, then complaining it isn't very good. Great post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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