Saints Warrior Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 What is the point playing him, please explain in under 500 words, is he actually a non league player, did Atkins not tell him its a Prem game today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Actually thought Guly made a big differnce when he came on!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judge_B Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 *dials 999* "Yes, WAAAAAAAAH-mbulance please. As quick as you can, thanks..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 His record last season would suggest he's pretty handy. Stop being a mong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Donovan Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 WTF did he do wrong today????? Tracked back well, and kept possession. Where's your JRod thread? Surely he done less. T W A T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 What is the point playing him, please explain in under 500 words, is he actually a non league player, did Atkins not tell him its a Prem game today Come back when you know our manager's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Hate player bashing, whether it's Benali, Telf or now Guly. But I've got to say, having about 8 other good options now we have Gaston and Mayuka is going to make it that much more difficult for him to get in the team and for that I'm grateful. Sorry Mr Guly. A nice fella but not up to this level of football (just my opinion of course ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronnie radford's boots Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 YAWN !!! So much to discuss today and this is the best you can do ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Think we just need one Guly sticky thread.. Think he will earn alot of abuse this season Do one for Fonte, Fox and KD too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Richard head.........some people are clearly of limited intellect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Richard head.........some people are clearly of limited intellect. I dont think Guly is dumb, just not good at soccer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 So out of all the players that played today you decide to pick on one player, who had the 2nd least amount of time on the pitch. Bearing in mind our schoolboy defending? you are a ****, please shut up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 What is the point playing him, please explain in under 500 words, is he actually a non league player, did Atkins not tell him its a Prem game today What on earth makes you think somebody would try to do it in 500 words or more? It is "Adkins" by the way. Perhaps you can explain why he was the reason we lost (less than 500 words please). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Sorry, what did he do wrong today? Can someone please answer that? Is he a scapegoat or what??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Thought Guly did V.well when he came on....... Dont understand the abuse he gets sometimes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Sorry, what did he do wrong today? Can someone please answer that? Is he a scapegoat or what??? Take another look at their third goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Take another look at their third goal. Oh come on, if you're going to pick him out for that then you're looking for faults specifically. Where was fox? Why was Jay Rod beaten so easily? They're more culpable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Take another look at their third goal. I've just watched it again.....what was Guly at fault for in particular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Silly thread some people need to grow up.we lost today because of 2 free headers and a slip.up. this is scacegoating at its worst.reminds me of the old puncheon threads.get behind saints for a change. Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 So out of all the players that played today you decide to pick on one player, who had the 2nd least amount of time on the pitch. Bearing in mind our schoolboy defending? you are a ****, please shut up. Agree expect he never even saw the game or was to beered up. Sent from my HTC Desire using Tapatalk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Take another look at their third goal. Saw it live and on a replay. What did I miss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 LOL even if Guly had stayed on the bench someone would have found away to blame him for today:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 ****, I just stubbed my toe. Bloody Guly's fault Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Saw it live and on a replay. What did I miss? I'm mystified. Fonte gave the corner away, Fonte and it looks like Schneiderlin were "marking" the two United players by the front post. I think Canada is throughly confused on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Wow, Guly may not be be the greatest player to pull on the red and white shirt, but sending him up north - you cruel ****er. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Oh come on, if you're going to pick him out for that then you're looking for faults specifically. Where was fox? Why was Jay Rod beaten so easily? They're more culpable. I've just watched it again.....what was Guly at fault for in particular? Saw it live and on a replay. What did I miss? Sorry, second goal. Weak defensive header (not a huge deal) followed by a p*ss poor attempt to close down Raphael - Rodriguez was trying to mark two out there. Guly and Fox stood marking space and ball-watching when it was vital to close the wide man down early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I'm mystified. Fonte gave the corner away, Fonte and it looks like Schneiderlin were "marking" the two United players by the front post. I think Canada is throughly confused on this one. I think he's referring to their 2nd goal, where Valencia crosses into the box but Guly is just stood inside the penalty area. I'm still mystified as to why he's criticized though, the first people you should ask questions to are Fox and Jay Rodriguez on that one. But hey, it's the theme to blame Guly, so let's do it. Crap, I've just dropped my tea. Bloody Guly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I think he's referring to their 2nd goal, where Valencia crosses into the box but Guly is just stood inside the penalty area. I'm still mystified as to why he's criticized though, the first people you should ask questions to are Fox and Jay Rodriguez on that one. But hey, it's the theme to blame Guly, so let's do it. Crap, I've just dropped my tea. Bloody Guly. Yep, just watched it again. Looks like Rodriguez is putting in a challenge on the cross, so Guly is backup to that. Seems thoruoughly bizarre to blame Guly for that goal. More pertinent questions would be why did Rio Ferdinand have a free header and why did RVP have no-one near him when the ball rebounded off the post for him to tap in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alright Dave Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Don't post much, but this is really ****ing me off now! Guly despite being far from the best player in the world, is far from our worst! Today he was on the pitch barely 15 mins, and didn't do anything either positive or negative! I do agree he was the wrong choice of sub, but then that's hardly his fault, rather Nigel's! As others have mentioned, if we actually look at the 8 goals we have so far conceded, we can unanimously blame 3 players Fonte, Davis and Fox! Now i am not personally bashing any of them, but if we are going to be critical, then we may as well pick those who actually made clear mistakes that led to goals we conceded (And before the Wums confirm, yes Clyne slipped today, but since its a first offence i am letting him off). Lets hope that Yoshida will come in and improve on Fonte (who has not been awful, but lacks 90mins concentration and subsequently goals), but what concerns me even more is left back and and goalkeeper, though were we have 2 great prospects, the general opinion is they are not quite ready for the Premiership big time! Couple of loans perhaps? On the positive side, there is much to look forward too! So chin up lads, more performances like that and we'll do enough to stay up, which in the grand scheme is the most important thing this year! COYR's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I think he's referring to their 2nd goal, where Valencia crosses into the box but Guly is just stood inside the penalty area. I'm still mystified as to why he's criticized though, the first people you should ask questions to are Fox and Jay Rodriguez on that one. But hey, it's the theme to blame Guly, so let's do it. Crap, I've just dropped my tea. Bloody Guly. No, it hasn't been my theme - I've seen a lot of positives in him. Providing reliable defence isn't one of them. And we should leave Rodgriguez out of it - he was trying to mark two out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forever a red and white Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I feel sorry for the stick Guly gets, HOWEVER, he was incredibly slow to close down the cross that led to the second goal today, and as a fresh sub really should've been a bit sharper to the ball. But he was not the only player to make a mistake. Just read above, maybe I was wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Amazing. I had to tell the bloke behind me to shut his mouth re. Guly today. Ferdinand had the ball on the halfway line and "GET INTO HIM GULY!". - He's playing right wing, mate. He doesn't need to go running around chasing the ball over there, leaving a gap on this side. Get a grip. Some people just see what they want to see. He's not going to be a great premier league player, but it isn't a lack of effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick1976.4.38 Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 (edited) What is the point playing him, please explain in under 500 words, is he actually a non league player, did Atkins not tell him its a Prem game today seriously do you really believe todays defeat was gulys fault,ffs please go and troll somewhere else. by the way,its ADKINS Edited 2 September, 2012 by rick1976.4.38 add more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractor_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Didn't really see too much wrong with Guly's play today (apart from he annoys me by looking like he's just out for a mid-afternoon stroll). However, I thought NA was going to 'deal with him' regarding the drink driving. Well, that's certainly showed him hasn't it by playing him against Man U... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I feel sorry for the stick Guly gets, HOWEVER, he was incredibly slow to close down the cross that led to the second goal today, and as a fresh sub really should've been a bit sharper to the ball. But he was not the only player to make a mistake. Just read above, maybe I was wrong you'[re not, he didn't spot the two on one (Rodriguez) danger which led to the second goal. Plenty of other errors in the game though, it's just that Guly is the current wipping boy so his mistakes are highlighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Of all the things to complain about today Guly is not one of them. Try KD's distribution. two free headers inside our six yard box, Clyne's dodgy boots, Fox's inability to mark a player and defend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Sorry, second goal. Weak defensive header (not a huge deal) followed by a p*ss poor attempt to close down Raphael - Rodriguez was trying to mark two out there. Guly and Fox stood marking space and ball-watching when it was vital to close the wide man down early. He would have had to have been traveling at warp speed to close that cross down. I think you have been influenced by MLTs comment on Sky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfclegend Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Actually thought Guly made a big differnce when he came on!! um how? when he came on it was 2-1 when the game finished it was 3-2.. not blaming Guly for this but how did he a make a big difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 He would have had to have been traveling at warp speed to close that cross down. I think you have been influenced by MLTs comment on Sky. I didn't hear MLT's comment on Sky. You can't be serious with the "warp speed" comment. It was his weak defensive header that initiated the problem but that wasn't the big deal because that can happen. The big deal, for me, was that it should have heightened the onus on him to close down the resultant problem, and he was extremely slow to react. Fox didn't do much either but it was primarily Guly's responsibility to close Raphael down rather than leave Rodriguez with two. Raphael had a ton of time to pick out his target, and he delivered. Guly wasn't to blame for the loss but he was culpable in that goal, and moments like this in the PL are very, very costly. It bugs me that even legitimate criticisms of Guly (and I've been a Guly supporter - other than when he IMO was slow to react at Fratton Park) are dismissed with the lazy argument that they come from Guly haters or people who want to make him the whipping boy. He screwed up big-time on that goal. I'll bet that 90% of people who work in the game would watch that goal and immediately point a finger at Guly - even if there were other problems when the cross came over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 **** me, we have some totally and utterly clueless 'fans' You Sir have no idea of football and have just jumped on the Guly is **** bandwagon. Next time you go to a match (and I do mean GO to a match, not just watch it on sky) then you might see the bigger picture. If I'm wrong and you were at the game today, then you're probably the cock in front of me, who was screaming at the top of his voice "you're f'ing ****, f off, useless" and giving the w@nker sign etc as he was just running onto the pitch having not even kicked a ball yet. Or you could be the other clueless cock i over heard leaving the stadium saying "redknapp ain't the man i want, but i have serious doubts over Nigel and he's not the man to take us to where we want to be" I admit im not a football genius and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But ****ing el.... We have some total knobs as supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Mabes Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Of all the things to complain about today Guly is not one of them. Try KD's distribution. two free headers inside our six yard box, Clyne's dodgy boots, Fox's inability to mark a player and defend. I thought KD's distribution was fine to be fair, better than Lindegards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 It bugs me that even legitimate criticisms of Guly (and I've been a Guly supporter - other than when he IMO was slow to react at Fratton Park) are dismissed with the lazy argument that they come from Guly haters or people who want to make him the whipping boyWhere did I say that? I just disagree with your assessment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Tbf if you look closely Guly was the reason that we conceded the first goal aswell, and the reason we got relegated from the prem 7 years ago, and I find him accountable for world war 2 There are some clueless 'fans' around. Lol at blaming him for the Fratton header too, lets all conveniently forget that Lallana failed to track Ward who's man it was, as he is the golden boy and Guly the whipping boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 **** me, we have some totally and utterly clueless 'fans' You Sir have no idea of football and have just jumped on the Guly is **** bandwagon. Next time you go to a match (and I do mean GO to a match, not just watch it on sky) then you might see the bigger picture. If I'm wrong and you were at the game today, then you're probably the cock in front of me, who was screaming at the top of his voice "you're f'ing ****, f off, useless" and giving the w@nker sign etc as he was just running onto the pitch having not even kicked a ball yet. Or you could be the other clueless cock i over heard leaving the stadium saying "redknapp ain't the man i want, but i have serious doubts over Nigel and he's not the man to take us to where we want to be" I admit im not a football genius and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But ****ing el.... We have some total knobs as supporters. Do you have anything remotely resembling a counter-argument to put forward, or is that just a torrent of half-witted abuse all you've got? Don't bother responding - I already know the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 I thought KD's distribution was fine to be fair, better than Lindegards. Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Taxi for the OP. He had 15 mins on and was played in just the wrong place. Why for the life of me he didn't replace Lambert and do what he did against city is just beyond me Anyway of the people who need criticism Guly today just can't be a target unless your blind with the Guly mist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Where did I say that? I just disagree with your assessment. It was a generic comment, not one aimed at you. And I have no problem with your disagreement - I just don't agree with it. I was talking about those who reject criticism of Guly, however valid, by accusing the critic of being a Guly hater. There's plenty of it on this thread and it often descends into the pig-ignorant (Fordy) and the rather childish (Smirking). If they don't have a counter argument beyond "You're a Guly hater", perhaps they don't have a counter argument at all. Now, will somebody please put forward an argument for why he was not at fault (along with others, agreed) for the second goal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 YAWN !!! So much to discuss today and this is the best you can do ? Don't see you starting a thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 Now, will somebody please put forward an argument for why he was not at fault (along with others, agreed) for the second goal? Already have, post 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 2 September, 2012 Share Posted 2 September, 2012 It was a generic comment, not one aimed at you. And I have no problem with your disagreement - I just don't agree with it. I was talking about those who reject criticism of Guly, however valid, by accusing the critic of being a Guly hater. There's plenty of it on this thread and it often descends into the pig-ignorant (Fordy) and the rather childish (Smirking). If they don't have a counter argument beyond "You're a Guly hater", perhaps they don't have a counter argument at all. Now, will somebody please put forward an argument for why he was not at fault (along with others, agreed) for the second goal? Apart from the fact I countered your Guly arguement of course ? And the fact that Rio had a free header, a FREE header in the box, and that RVP reacted far quicker than the two saints players near the post ? Both far more critical than the fact that Guly failed to close down a man that Rodriguez really should have dealt with ? So yes, ignoring the other points, which obviously you need to do in order to suit tge point your making than Guly is at fault. As I said, similar to Fratton where Ward again had a free header as Adam failed to pick him up, conveniently forgotten as Guly didnt jump high enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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