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Exactly. We've signed nothing but championship standard players. We sign J-Rod. WHU get Carroll. I know who I'd rather have had. That's a real statement of intent from West Ham and exactly the sort of thing Saints should be looking to do if they're serious about staying up.

 

Speechless.

 

Sorry but what exactly has Andy Carroll done? Is his record any more impressive than say, Grant Holt's? No. Everyone likes evidence so here goes:

 

 

Andy Carroll Championship Record 18 goals in 50 games (1 goal every 2.77 matches)

Grant Holt Championship Record 21 goals in 49 games (1 goal every 2.33 matches)

Andy Carroll Premier League Record 20 goals in 85 games (1 goal every 4.25 matches)

Grant Holt Premier League Record 15 goals in 35 games (1 goal every 2.33 matches)

 

I accept stats aren't everything. There's also team contribution to consider, but I'm pretty sure that if I was to bother canvassing opinion of Norwich fans about Grant Holt's all round play and Liverpool/Newcastle fans about Andy Carroll's all round play, then Grant Holt would still come out on top.

 

The only reason Carroll is considered a 'top' striker is because Liverpool were stupid enough to pay £35 million for him in a panic buy. Well, two seasons on and they've realised their mistake and they're basically cutting their losses.

 

Your post was comparing J-Rod and Andy Carroll though and I realise I've gone off on a tangent comparing Andy Carroll to Grant Holt, but my point is Andy Carroll is not some superstar striker. He's distinctly average, over-hyped, has had off the field troubles, not got recent scoring form, and, as someone else has mentioned, he has the touch of a rapist. Frankly, suggesting that Saints, in signing J-Rod over Andy Carroll, are risking their future in the Premier League is complete nonsense. You also said that Saints are only signing Championship standard players. Take a look again at the stats above and tell me that you have absolutely no doubt that Andy Carroll isn't out of his depth in the Premier League? I'm not saying that he is, but there's surely a doubt there. He's hardly set the world on fire in the Premier League. A case could be made that he's a Championship standard player (again though, I'm not making that case).

 

Maybe I wasn't speechless after all.

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Speechless.

 

Sorry but what exactly has Andy Carroll done? Is his record any more impressive than say, Grant Holt's? No. Everyone likes evidence so here goes:

 

 

Andy Carroll Championship Record 18 goals in 50 games (1 goal every 2.77 matches)

Grant Holt Championship Record 21 goals in 49 games (1 goal every 2.33 matches)

Andy Carroll Premier League Record 20 goals in 85 games (1 goal every 4.25 matches)

Grant Holt Premier League Record 15 goals in 35 games (1 goal every 2.33 matches)

 

I accept stats aren't everything. There's also team contribution to consider, but I'm pretty sure that if I was to bother canvassing opinion of Norwich fans about Grant Holt's all round play and Liverpool/Newcastle fans about Andy Carroll's all round play, then Grant Holt would still come out on top.

 

The only reason Carroll is considered a 'top' striker is because Liverpool were stupid enough to pay £35 million for him in a panic buy. Well, two seasons on and they've realised their mistake and they're basically cutting their losses.

 

Your post was comparing J-Rod and Andy Carroll though and I realise I've gone off on a tangent comparing Andy Carroll to Grant Holt, but my point is Andy Carroll is not some superstar striker. He's distinctly average, over-hyped, has had off the field troubles, not got recent scoring form, and, as someone else has mentioned, he has the touch of a rapist. Frankly, suggesting that Saints, in signing J-Rod over Andy Carroll, are risking their future in the Premier League is complete nonsense. You also said that Saints are only signing Championship standard players. Take a look again at the stats above and tell me that you have absolutely no doubt that Andy Carroll isn't out of his depth in the Premier League? I'm not saying that he is, but there's surely a doubt there. He's hardly set the world on fire in the Premier League. A case could be made that he's a Championship standard player (again though, I'm not making that case).

 

Maybe I wasn't speechless after all.

 

He's hardly been given the opportunity at Liverpool. Let's be honest, his form at Newcastle was what alerted Liverpool to him. It's not his fault that Kenny Dalglish tried to change him as a player as opposed to playing to his strengths. Allardyce knows what he's all about so let's see what he does at WHU. Personally I think it's a great bit of business for WHU. In my opinion a better option than Sharp or J-Rod.

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He's hardly been given the opportunity at Liverpool. Let's be honest, his form at Newcastle was what alerted Liverpool to him. It's not his fault that Kenny Dalglish tried to change him as a player as opposed to playing to his strengths. Allardyce knows what he's all about so let's see what he does at WHU. Personally I think it's a great bit of business for WHU. In my opinion a better option than Sharp or J-Rod.

 

Carroll scored 11 goals in 19 games in one half a season up to the end of January for Newcastle in the Premier League.

 

Michael Ricketts scored 15 goals for Bolton by February in his first Premier League season.

 

Form is temporary, class is permanent. Andy Carroll is severely lacking in class.

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Have to agree. Matt Jarvis put in more crosses last season than any other player in the premier. More of that service and dont be shocked if AC ends up as the top goal scorer. Actually just convinced myself to have a punt.:)

I do hope you dont have to eat those words when we play against him. IMO he is a superb centre forward and in the right team will be lethal.
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Just spoke to a mate who was at the game. Apparently Carroll ran the show today & completely tore Fulham's back 4 apart, setting up 2 of their 3 goals. Yes, he's **** that Andy Carroll, only good from the waist up. Blah, blah, blah.

 

What's this got to do with Saints?

 

...or Benayoun for that matter?

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Just spoke to a mate who was at the game. Apparently Carroll ran the show today & completely tore Fulham's back 4 apart, setting up 2 of their 3 goals. Yes, he's **** that Andy Carroll, only good from the waist up. Blah, blah, blah.

 

So you think we should pay someone 92k a week with a 32k ground....you would fit in well down the M27 did you learn nothing from their debacle?

Chelsea or Liverpool would hardly contribute to their massive wages yet we are reported to be paying about 38k a week to Ramirez lets see how this pans out over a season.

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What's this got to do with Saints?

 

...or Benayoun for that matter?

Keep up. Did you not read the other comments in this thread. Carroll was mentioned and a number of people said he was ****. his performance today Suggests otherwise.

 

Oh, and while we're on the subject of not having anything to do with Saints. What has sending private messages to forum members threatening to cut them got to do with saints? My mate is no longer a member on here because of your threatening behaviour.

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Keep up. Did you not read the other comments in this thread. Carroll was mentioned and a number of people said he was ****. his performance today Suggests otherwise.

 

Oh, and while we're on the subject of not having anything to do with Saints. What has sending private messages to forum members threatening to cut them got to do with saints? My mate is no longer a member on here because of your threatening behaviour.

 

Who exactly do you expect to believe that?

 

With your record on here, you must think everyone is as STUPID as you are!

 

Wierdo.

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Who exactly do you expect to believe that?

 

With your record on here, you must think everyone is as STUPID as you are!

 

Wierdo.

 

Admit it "Avenue Saint", if that is your real name, the game is up. Is now the best time to tell everyone you threatened to force feed me until I was morbidly obese and then Have sex with me. You have driven me away from this place.

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Admit it "Avenue Saint", if that is your real name, the game is up. Is now the best time to tell everyone you threatened to force feed me until I was morbidly obese and then Have sex with me. You have driven me away from this place.

 

Ha ha!

 

You loved every bite of those KEBABS Percy! Don't lie!!

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Who exactly do you expect to believe that?

 

With your record on here, you must think everyone is as STUPID as you are!

 

Wierdo.

 

I'll tell you what. I'll see if he still has a copy of the message you sent him so I can get a picture and post it on here for everybody to see.

 

Oh, and before you start calling me stupid, it's 'weirdo' So who's the stupid one who can't spell?

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