Colbury Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I've never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcontinent#_ Yes you are right to say India/Pakistan but I can't recall a single player from either country featuring in the top division of English football so in a sense they don't really count much like Antarctica. Maybe just stick to the standard continents then? So just one needed from North America to complete the set. I await my infraction. Has he signed yet? Any news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 this aint happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 What about Antarctica? Don Cortese is planning to p-p-pick up a penguin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 this aint happening. Ah well, injury has killed it I guess. Any other news from your side on anything imminent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 My thoughts exactly. I missed Skrtel off that list too. They just seem to breed world class defenders in that part of Europe and are sold for next to nothing. The fella that's just joined Man City, Nastasic is Serbian, an international at 19 and meant it be quality. Only joined Fiorentina a year or so ago, not sure how much Fiorentina got him for but can't imagine it was much, relatively obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 The fella that's just joined Man City, Nastasic is Serbian, an international at 19 and meant it be quality. Only joined Fiorentina a year or so ago, not sure how much Fiorentina got him for but can't imagine it was much, relatively obviously. I think he only cost city £11million too which you have to take with a pinch of salt considering how much they get mugged off transfer fee wise. Kid looks good though saw a few Serie A games last year on ESPN and he looked on another level to most other defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I think he only cost city £11million too which you have to take with a pinch of salt considering how much they get mugged off transfer fee wise. Kid looks good though saw a few Serie A games last year on ESPN and he looked on another level to most other defenders. That's what I mean, scout these areas and we get in there first. Could probably pick them up from their first clubs in their home country for bargains prices. Mind you given th choice of living in Florence or Southampton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Been told Ramirez and Yoshida deals nearly done. The latter might already be done and dusted medical been completed. Not expecting anymore signings other than these two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 The fella that's just joined Man City, Nastasic is Serbian, an international at 19 and meant it be quality. Only joined Fiorentina a year or so ago, not sure how much Fiorentina got him for but can't imagine it was much, relatively obviously. We missed the boat with this bloke, servet cetin, now 31. Turkish international. At one time chased by Arsenal - appropriately named the bear killer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfc4prem Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Been told Ramirez and Yoshida deals nearly done. The latter might already be done and dusted medical been completed. Not expecting anymore signings other than these two. Oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Oh... Disappointing defensive wise if so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Not that keen on Williams, but overrated I think. Would be happy with Yoshida and Ramirez, if we get those 2 then it would be a successful week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Disappointing defensive wise if so... Still a left back short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Still a left back short. And Yoshida is an unproven CB. Really need some quality in there or it's a gamble. Came off last season but might not be so lucky this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 And Yoshida is an unproven CB. Really need some quality in there or it's a gamble. Came off last season but might not be so lucky this year... I maintain for a team like us the centre backs and keeper are the main positions, you don't stay up by outscoring teams, you do it by being solid, able to defend well and not giving away silly goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Been told Ramirez and Yoshida deals nearly done. The latter might already be done and dusted medical been completed. Not expecting anymore signings other than these two. Will be good to complete the deals for those two. Hopefully we might change our mind and have a little flurry on deadline day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Disappointing defensive wise if so... Disappointing in that Alpine promised he'd stop posting if we signed a winger, 2 centre backs and a left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I maintain for a team like us the centre backs and keeper are the main positions, you don't stay up by outscoring teams, you do it by being solid, able to defend well and not giving away silly goals. And there is still a question mark over Davis in the Prem and there will be over half of our defense. COncerning if this is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 In fact, in my opinion if we get just this one defender and no one else (even on loan) then we will get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 In fact, in my opinion if we get just this one defender and no one else (even on loan) then we will get relegated. Think this is a bit premature. Fonte and Jos are not as bad as some make out. Both capable of mistakes but how many CB pairings aren't? They were both good against City and Wigan didn't really create much. They have played a lot of games together and are decent if not spectacular players and the urgency people have created over these positions is a little OTT. We're short in numbers there for sure and we should always look to improve what we have but I think it's too early to write them off or in particular, Fonte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Think this is a bit premature. Fonte and Jos are not as bad as some make out. Both capable of mistakes but how many CB pairings aren't? They were both good against City and Wigan didn't really create much. They have played a lot of games together and are decent if not spectacular players and the urgency people have created over these positions is a little OTT. We're short in numbers there for sure and we should always look to improve what we have but I think it's too early to write them off or in particular, Fonte I respectfully disagree. I don't think those two are any way good enough to be regular players in the Prem. Possibly Jos maybe And that's before we get to fox and his obvious deficiencies. We neglected the defence last year and we got away with it because everyone stayed largely injury free. I don't want to see us do that again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I really hope this isn't true. £6m for a centre back with a worse injury record than Lee Holmes - no thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born In The 80s Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I really hope this isn't true. £6m for a centre back with a worse injury record than Lee Holmes - no thanks I can't possible believe this is true. As you say massively injury-prone, currently crocked and he's hardly a centre back either. Sure he has played there, but these days he operates as a holding midfielder (think Mowbrey was even thinking about pushing him forward into an attacking midfielder). For me we need 2 OUT AND OUT centre backs - time is rapidly running out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Think this is a bit premature. Fonte and Jos are not as bad as some make out. Both capable of mistakes but how many CB pairings aren't? They were both good against City and Wigan didn't really create much. They have played a lot of games together and are decent if not spectacular players and the urgency people have created over these positions is a little OTT. We're short in numbers there for sure and we should always look to improve what we have but I think it's too early to write them off or in particular, Fonte They've each made a significant basic errors, Hooiveld in the City game which gave away the penalty, Fonte in the Wigan game which gave away the second goal. We can't afford to make as many mistakes as that in this league, and the two of them (Fonte in particular) are far too prone to those types of mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I respectfully disagree. I don't think those two are any way good enough to be regular players in the Prem. Possibly Jos maybe And that's before we get to fox and his obvious deficiencies. We neglected the defence last year and we got away with it because everyone stayed largely injury free. I don't want to see us do that again. They are not as bad as you make out. They were one of the top CB pairings in the league last season, they are not going to be no way near good for the Prem. It's important that we don't have to resort to Seabourne or worse and no point bringing in players now who are worse than we have but still think the general reaction is a bit OTT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 They are not as bad as you make out. They were one of the top CB pairings in the league last season, they are not going to be no way near good for the Prem. It's important that we don't have to resort to Seabourne or worse and no point bringing in players now who are worse than we have but still think the general reaction is a bit OTT Its an opinion. What I have seen so far is enough to concern me and with just one new cb potentially, we would be wafer thin at the back with cb's who have question marks over the abilities to perform consistently at the highest level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 They've each made a significant basic errors, Hooiveld in the City game which gave away the penalty, Fonte in the Wigan game which gave away the second goal. We can't afford to make as many mistakes as that in this league, and the two of them (Fonte in particular) are far too prone to those types of mistakes. A lot of established prem defenders will give penalties away this season and many did that very weekend....7 I think. Fonte does need to cut out some mistakes and he's one I would look to replace but he's still a good player IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Its an opinion. What I have seen so far is enough to concern me and with just one new cb potentially, we would be wafer thin at the back with cb's who have question marks over the abilities to perform consistently at the highest level. I know it's your opinion. Didn't say you were wrong and just saying mine is that they aren't as bad as everybody is making out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 A lot of established prem defenders will give penalties away this season and many did that very weekend....7 I think. Fonte does need to cut out some mistakes and he's one I would look to replace but he's still a good player IMO. Its an either or for me. They're not good enough as a combo; perhaps one of them alongside someone stronger. Decent enough for backup but not first choice. My point was, we've only played 2 games but had a major error from each one in each game. Fonte also had his error against Ajax, its unfortunately systematic of his play, he got away with it slightly in the Championship but won't in the PL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Its an either or for me. They're not good enough as a combo; perhaps one of them alongside someone stronger. Decent enough for backup but not first choice. My point was, we've only played 2 games but had a major error from each one in each game. Fonte also had his error against Ajax, its unfortunately systematic of his play, he got away with it slightly in the Championship but won't in the PL. That's fair enough and I would like to see more strength and simplicity in our central defence for sure. Just think they did really well as a partnership last year and plenty of pairs have stepped up from the championship to the prem. I wouldnt say they are as far off prem quality as some make out. Experts point fingers at defenders after nearly every goal and let's face it, there are still a fair few donkeys strolling around as CBs in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subcontinent#_ Yes you are right to say India/Pakistan but I can't recall a single player from either country featuring in the top division of English football so in a sense they don't really count much like Antarctica. According to the gospel that is Wikipedia, Rhys Williams' mum is Indian. That's close enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Yes when you put it in terms of 7 continents but when you take sub continents into account it is in fact set apart from North America. Have a look at a geographical text book and it will tell you that. no it wont because it isnt true. Mexico is in North America period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThaiSaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 I maintain for a team like us the centre backs and keeper are the main positions, you don't stay up by outscoring teams, you do it by being solid, able to defend well and not giving away silly goals. Huh? Have they changed the rules? Well there's another one that passed me by... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COYR_CHEF Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Huh? Have they changed the rules? Well there's another one that passed me by... So do we get 3 points for a 0-0 score line? Wow!!! How is that not all over the news!?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 We don't need him - get us a centre back and a winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Bolton fail with £6m apparently http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/31/middlesbrough-bolton-rhys-williams-bid?cat=football&type=article Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 I hope we are scouting in Serbia, Croatia and so on. They've produced some excellent players in recent years and can be picked up quite cheaply. When you think Vidic only cost £7m, a million more than Blackburn want for Scott Dann! yes of course, but that was a couple of seasons ago - wasn't it ? .and he was a bit on an unknown quantity in UK at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Don't know much about him, seemed decent when he came on against us last season, but pretty uninspired by this Can't see it going ahead anyway...a) hes injured and b) we wont bump it up over 6m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 (edited) Bolton fail with £6m apparently http://m.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jan/31/middlesbrough-bolton-rhys-williams-bid?cat=football&type=article .reading the last para. of this article, it seems that he had a spell at Burnley.....and we have one or two players with a similar background . Q. ......when you were at ******, who was the best player? ...(apart from you - that is ) (may sound daft but I might ask that if I were a manager...) Edited 30 August, 2012 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 This cant be Nixons 'big name' domestic CB surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Told ya Post number 53, yesterday lunch. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?39764-The-getting-a-bit-desparate-Centre-Back-thread/page2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 This cant be Nixons 'big name' domestic CB surely? Nixon is an attention seeker...... Some might say ( not me ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken With A Banjo Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 If Mexico isn't in north America why is it part of NAFTA then?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 He tweeted this today... Alan Nixon says... "2-3 week job. That includes international break. No biggie." Hairy kneecaps FFS? No thanks! Hairy legs fine, but kneecaps? Thats just weird. Plus I bet he can't play when it s the full moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 This cant be Nixons 'big name' domestic CB surely? maybe it is Curtis Davies then ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 In fact, in my opinion if we get just this one defender and no one else (even on loan) then we will get relegated. You really are the forum fool mate, seriously, get a life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 maybe it is Curtis Davies then ...? Pretty sure he confirmed it was this guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Huh? Have they changed the rules? Well there's another one that passed me by... So do we get 3 points for a 0-0 score line? Wow!!! How is that not all over the news!?! How many teams have stayed up in the last twenty years by being great gong forward but sh*t at the back? how many teams have won anything playing that way? Do you think wed have stayed up in 2005 if Svenson had stayed fit Or wed adequately replaced him with a quality defender not with Jackobson or Calum friggin' Davenport? Teams that do well have solid defences and don't give away sloppy goals. Its not a rule it's common sense. But I wouldn't expect any of the mugs on here to understand that. Just squeal something about it not being in the rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Cannot stress the importance of having a solid back four and goalkeepeer. It was the late Bill Shankly that siad you build the team from the back, starting with the GK. Wise words at the time and still true to day. In our past years we saw some of our most successful periods with Shilton and Niemi and as has been said with a solid back four. I am delighted with the front line and believe SRL will prove himself in te PL, but if we don't sign beofre the deadline it could fall apart at the back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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