sotonjoe Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Source close to the club has claimed that De Ridder has been told he will only rarely feature this season and he is welcome to move on if he finds himself a club willing to meet Saints' valuation. He is keen to be playing football so it looks possible that he could move, but things have come a bit late in the window for him unfortunately. Continental destination would be the most likely. I always thought he needed more of a chance last season tbh. I wouldn't throw him into the Prem side, but I'd like to perhaps see him out on loan in the Champ which would give us time to see whether he can develop in the right way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 He's 25 years old, the chances of him developing his game to any significant degree at this stage of his career are slim. He's an archetypcal run around merchant, plenty of pace and potential but extremely lacking in end product. He didn't make it anywhere near the first team with us in the Championship so there's very little benefit in keeping him here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 He's not very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I really, really hope people have learnt their lesson and that YouTube compilations do not equate to a good player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Tries hard but has had chances to impress in the Championship and never quite delivered (although he never got a run of games). Wouldn't be suprised if he left back to Holland and then came over again in a couple of years and was decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 So many people on here got excited when they saw footage on him on YouTube when he signed. He has good pace but he can't cross and his decision making is very poor. I can see him going out on loan to a top half League One club/Championship relegation battler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Thought he was the dogs kahoonas when he first joined. Turned into a bit of a Nathan Dyer in terms of his end result - shame. Still, Dyer is a regular for Swansea so maybe we will see De Ridder terrorising PL defenses for some other club one day. I gather he was injured otherwise would have played last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Seems a good lad but Championship is his level at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Thought he was the dogs kahoonas when he first joined. Turned into a bit of a Nathan Dyer in terms of his end result - shame. Still, Dyer is a regular for Swansea so maybe we will see De Ridder terrorising PL defenses for some other club one day. This. Keep him on the books and loan him out, imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Whatever happens to him he has my thanks for that goal at Reading which sparked absolute bedlam in the away end. Was a great moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merrimd Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 No surprise unfortunately. When he came on against Wolves in the summer, NA was constantly screaming at him to do this, do that, do the other, whereas Punch just got on and done it. It seemed to me that either he is not the brightest bulb in the multipack, or that he was refusing to play the way NA wanted. Either was only going to end in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 This. Keep him on the books and loan him out, imho. Seems pointless, he had no effect even at Championship level. Get him off the wage bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I wonder what our valuation is? 500k? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sea Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I really, really hope people have learnt their lesson and that YouTube compilations do not equate to a good player. You've not seen the Mayuka thread I take it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bishop Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 You've not seen the Mayuka thread I take it? Oh dear. I have now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Tries hard, but not good enough. Arrival of Mayuka probably puts the final nail in the coffin. Thanks Steve, shame it didn't work out. All the best to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve Embarrassing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corky morris Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Embarrassing Agreed!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve Embarrassing Agreed!! That makes three of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 That makes three of us. +4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 +4. +5...along with shouting "you wotsit" I am still struggling to come to terms with the wotsit thing at London Rd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pingwing Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Shame he hasn't lived up to his potential but he got 32 appearances last season!!! Clearly giving him more game time should fix him but I don't think we have the time, money or are in the position to persist with him. There is only so far we can take a player and only so far it is worth trying to push him into being something he is not, that is a quick winger with an end product. Doubt he will be sold with so little time but ship him out on loan till January to Bournemouth or Coventry and sell next window (give him a chance to do well in L1 followed by a well priced move) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I don't think we've seen anything close to his best last season. I'd be inclined to loan him out to an NpC club where he can get regular football, then make a judgement next season on what to do with him. If he goes on loan and plays a blinder, he could be pretty useful next year should we get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Rick Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 That makes three of us. four Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Shame if so. I've liked what I've seen of him and don't think he has been given enough of a chance. Granted I haven't seen many of the reserve games he has has mostly featured in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delboy Dave Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Managed to get 3.4m for him on Fifa12. Anything less than that and the club as a whole will have failed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Shame if so. I've liked what I've seen of him and don't think he has been given enough of a chance. Granted I haven't seen many of the reserve games he has has mostly featured in. He was with the 1st team far more than the "reserves" last season. He featured in 32 games for Saints in 2011/12, the vast majority coming on as a sub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 He was with the 1st team far more than the "reserves" last season. He featured in 32 games for Saints in 2011/12, the vast majority coming on as a sub. The prob is as I remember it he always came on too late with 10 or so mins to go. Hardly fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 (edited) The prob is as I remember it he always came on too late with 10 or so mins to go. Hardly fair. That's what I thought. His erratic delivery would have been a lot more useful than the slow motion non delivery last Saturday. Maybe a decent attacking playmaker and a footballing fullback would have brought him into the game more. It doesn't matter how pacy players are, if they don't get the passes that exploit the pace they won't be a success. I'm not sure the present midfield can do this. Edited 29 August, 2012 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 29 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2012 That's what I thought. His erratic delivery would have been a lot more useful than the slow motion non delivery last Saturday. Personally I thought he would have been worth a go later on last Saturday (if he wasn't already injured by then). The game was begging out for somebody to run at Wigan with the ball at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 The prob is as I remember it he always came on too late with 10 or so mins to go. Hardly fair. Exactly. Not something MLG understands when he peddles his useless appearance stats. Next thing he'll be telling us is that our squad is chocabloc with premiership experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 pace but no end product, gets into decent positions but then seems to panic and not know whether to shoot or pass. Granted if he had more 1st team game time this could have improved but he is not a prem player imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benali Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Disappointed with him. Thought he was going to be good. But was poor when starting, ok off the bench. Not Premier league quality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 The prob is as I remember it he always came on too late with 10 or so mins to go. Hardly fair. More to the point he was often chucked into games which weren't going our way and needed to change things. In many of the 20 minute appearances in which he failed to impress, the rest of the team were crap for the full 90. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 He just completely lost confidence at the end of last season. For example - against Pompey at home - he was through on goal and instead of sticking his foot through when less than 10 yards out, he didn't look up and instead squared it. It all seemed to go downhill after a similar situation in that 2-2 home draw with Blackpool where one touch led to a poor rest of the season. We'd just made it 2-2 and he's racing down the right with 2/3 men open at the back post and a heavy touch meant the ball went out for a goal kick. Fans got on his back etc etc.... He'd probably still be a good player in the Championship if he started afresh at a new club but I suspect we'll want in the region of £500k for him considering the length of his contract. Got nothing against the lad, he's just not good enough for the Premier League and a loan would only be a temporary solution. Thanks for that goal at Reading though, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-cris Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Whatever happens to him he has my thanks for that goal at Reading which sparked absolute bedlam in the away end. Was a great moment. Amen to that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sour Mash Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Think Adkins just doesn't rate him or trust him, hence giving him very few opportunities. Pity, as he comes across as a good lad and at times his pace and directness has shaken things up a bit. Can see why many don't see a Premier League player there though. Must be a long, long way down the pecking order as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Not really good enough, IMO wasnt massively adept at NPC level and so for his career I think its time to move on. Nice bloke and wish him all the best, sometimes things just dont work out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 A real disappointment - I don't think he was given enough of a decent opportunity to show consistency in the team. He certainly gave defences something to think about instead of watching us fanny around with the ball in the final third taking one too many passes. As good a player as Guly IMO and look how much game time he's had. However, having said all that, I am reasonably confident that if he had shown more in training in terms of fitness etc, he would have featured more as a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 No way is he as good a player as Guly He has pace and some skill to take on Players but his technical ability is woeful akin to his decision making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doddisalegend Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Just goes to show pace (the holy grail) isn't much use if a player doesn't get the service......the rest of the team seemed to have a mental block when it came to passing to SDR either ignoring him or putting in totally the wrong sort of passes to play to SDRs strengths. SDR never seemed to click with NA or his team mates on the pitch so he might as well move on as he is unlikely to make much of an impact at saints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Just goes to show pace (the holy grail) isn't much use if a player doesn't get the service......the rest of the team seemed to have a mental block when it came to passing to SDR either ignoring him or putting in totally the wrong sort of passes to play to SDRs strengths. SDR never seemed to click with NA or his team mates on the pitch so he might as well move on as he is unlikely to make much of an impact at saints. Spot on, maybe it's the team that Adkins has given up on with regards to playing DeRidder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Just goes to show pace (the holy grail) isn't much use if a player doesn't get the service......the rest of the team seemed to have a mental block when it came to passing to SDR either ignoring him or putting in totally the wrong sort of passes to play to SDRs strengths. SDR never seemed to click with NA or his team mates on the pitch so he might as well move on as he is unlikely to make much of an impact at saints. Steve de ridder also had a mental block (mostly) of doing anything useful with the ball....he did now and then though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Whatever happens to him he has my thanks for that goal at Reading which sparked absolute bedlam in the away end. Was a great moment. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Spot on, maybe it's the team that Adkins has given up on with regards to playing DeRidder. Maybe the team realised that it's better to keep the ball rather than to give it to De Ridder and end up with the resulting goal kick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Maybe the team realised that it's better to keep the ball rather than to give it to De Ridder and end up with the resulting goal kick? We were dead and buried v Hull and he changed the game, there were several other games that he made decisive contributions that added up to us gaining enough points to be promoted rather than the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 We were dead and buried v Hull and he changed the game, there were several other games that he made decisive contributions that added up to us gaining enough points to be promoted rather than the playoffs. as much as I don't want to say it...lets not pretend de ridder has been good....made an impression in a few games but on the whole..been pretty poor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 We were dead and buried v Hull and he changed the game, there were several other games that he made decisive contributions that added up to us gaining enough points to be promoted rather than the playoffs. He's a an attacking player so undoubtedly will have his moments. However it's clear that Adkins didnt trust him and that probably transcended to the rest of the team. I saw Steve is good positions plenty of times where he was overlooked but you have to question why....maybe he was poor in training more consistently than others? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Just goes to show pace (the holy grail) isn't much use if a player doesn't get the service......the rest of the team seemed to have a mental block when it came to passing to SDR either ignoring him or putting in totally the wrong sort of passes to play to SDRs strengths. SDR never seemed to click with NA or his team mates on the pitch so he might as well move on as he is unlikely to make much of an impact at saints. Don't totally buy that - we had no problem getting the ball to AOC in decent, dangerous positions. I think its more that the rest of team has never really trusted the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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