Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Gazump, gazumped, gazumption... Many of these phrases have been used about the Ramirez deal and it got me thinking - when have we actually been gazumped in a sitatuon that was public knowledge? I'm sure it happens behind the scenes when you think you have someone and then they go elsewhere but the public ones are what im thinking of. Probably a lot less than some think. I can remember that Halls had pretty much agreed to come here and it had been on the OS I think and then he went to Reading. Can anyone remember any others? Has to be a genuine gazumping not where the club decides not to buy the player. Note: Leave Buttner out of this as nobody really knows what happened apart from he signed for United over a month after our deal stalled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 There was a CB that ended up at Cardiff I think which I can't remember the name of. Dawson and Reid when they left Forest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Darren Purse? Spurs def gazumped us for Reid - think they added Dawson to the deal but he wasnt ever coming here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Elliott Ward and Kaspars Gorkšs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Depends how far back we're looking. I can't really think of any under NC but Dawson and Reid spring to mind when they went to Spurs from Forest. Maybe the Mido deal as well but can't really remember what happened there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 DaMarcus Beasley. Sturrock actually used the term too to describe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Elliott Ward and Kaspars Gorkšs Pretty sure with Ward we dropped out rather than were gazumped by another team. Very sure in fact. This is not a gazumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Elliott Ward and Kaspars Gorkšs Gazumped or pulled out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I seem to recall we were going to sign Tore Andre Flo at the same time as Egil Ostenstad but something happened then... struggling to remember it now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Drogba and Adebayor count? Saha? Malbranque ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Gazumped or pulled out? Gazumped! Didier Drogba & Emmanuel Adebayor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 There was a CB that ended up at Cardiff I think which I can't remember the name of. Darren Purse. No big deal that we missed out there Dawson and Reid when they left Forest... From memory, while Spurs came in with a joint bid for the two, we were only ever interested in Reid and had a £4m bid accepted. However, he told us in no uncertain terms that he wasn't interested, mainly due to our rather one-dimensional approach in our relegation season where everything was launched to Crouch in the hope that someone would do something with the knockdowns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I seem to recall we were going to sign Tore Andre Flo at the same time as Egil Ostenstad but something happened then... struggling to remember it now though. Spot on. It was when Souness came in and we had about 11 foreign lads on trial. Can remember watching it on South Today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Nicky Maynard and Sam Baldock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Baldock possibly a gazumption - Maynard we never went for apparantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Baldock possibly a gazumption - Maynard we never went for apparantly. Maynard wanted a £1,000,000 signing on fee. Fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Baldock possibly a gazumption - Maynard we never went for apparantly. Maynard wanted a £1,000,000 signing on fee. Fact. How do we know that if we never went for him? I smell a rat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Matt Elliott. Pretty sure we pretty much had him tied up in a deal from Oxford, then at the last minute Leicester came in for him and he went there. Andy Reid pretty much laughed in our faces when we had an offer for him accepted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guan 2.0 Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 John Hartson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Matt Elliott. Pretty sure we pretty much had him tied up in a deal from Oxford, then at the last minute Leicester came in for him and he went there. Andy Reid pretty much laughed in our faces when we had an offer for him accepted. Michael Dawson was meant to be part of that deal, I recall. I seem to remember we also wanted Anthony Gerrard from Walsall but he ended up at Cardiff. Now plays for Huddersfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Alun Armstrong from Stockport all but done and suddenly signed for Boro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the scud Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Maybe wrong what about Danny Collins when he was at Stoke ended up at West Ham Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 One thing is for sure.....we've been gazumped for some terrible players in the past! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Alun Armstrong from Stockport all but done and suddenly signed for Boro. Ha Ha! I remember ringing up teamtalk when i was at work and they had announced on there that he had signed for us, then the next day he signed for Boro! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Ha Ha! I remember ringing up teamtalk when i was at work and they had announced on there that he had signed for us, then the next day he signed for Boro! I loved TeamTALK. Remember the Vialli rumours? Used to phone it all the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Ha Ha! I remember ringing up teamtalk when i was at work and they had announced on there that he had signed for us, then the next day he signed for Boro! Ah yes teamtalk 0898 12 11 78 from memory - spent hours on the work phone listening to reports of Petter Rudi (and most other Norwegian players it seemed) who were signing for us. If my company at the time had ever run a phone report of numbers dialled and the cost I would have been in serious s***. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Ah yes teamtalk 0898 12 11 78 from memory - spent hours on the work phone listening to reports of Petter Rudi (and most other Norwegian players it seemed) who were signing for us. If my company at the time had ever run a phone report of numbers dialled and the cost I would have been in serious s***. You've just named another 'gazumpee' I can remember that. He went to Sheff Weds, and Norway were playing a day or 2 later on Eurosport, so I settled down to watch it to see what we missed out on and he scored a damn 40 yard thunder-bolt volley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Could you also include players that were already here but at the end of their contract (or loan)? Thinking about Eyal Berkovic (loan) who went to West Ham and Hassan Kachloul who went to Villa (agreed with Ipswich first so a double gazumped). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 You've just named another 'gazumpee' I can remember that. He went to Sheff Weds, and Norway were playing a day or 2 later on Eurosport, so I settled down to watch it to see what we missed out on and he scored a damn 40 yard thunder-bolt volley! Looking back I wonder if the Norwegian reporter they kept speaking to actually existed or was just someone putting on an accent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granadino Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Matt Piper was definitely a gazumping (and as it turned out a very lucky escape!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Matt Piper was definitely a gazumping (and as it turned out a very lucky escape!) Good one - he was a good player but injuries ruined him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecuk268 Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Matt Elliott. Pretty sure we pretty much had him tied up in a deal from Oxford, then at the last minute Leicester came in for him and he went there. Rumour had it that his missus didn't want to come to Southampton. Rumour also had it that WGS had the deal for Saha and Malbranque lined up with Fulham but Rupert wouldn't come up with the cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Rumour had it that his missus didn't want to come to Southampton. Rumour also had it that WGS had the deal for Saha and Malbranque lined up with Fulham but Rupert wouldn't come up with the cash. £7m for the pair but Lowe put the question to WGS "Why make our rivals financially stronger?" - source: WGS' autobiography. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Matt Piper...went to retire in sunderland instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 What aboout Max Gradel. Weren't we linked to him but he ended up at Leeds instead ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Mido??? Then went to Spurs... Thank god!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 David Weatherall went to bradford instead of saints for around £1m he went flying down the leagues and instead, we sign Dean Richards for nothing... if I remember rightly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc oli Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Ah yes teamtalk 0898 12 11 78 from memory - spent hours on the work phone listening to reports of Petter Rudi (and most other Norwegian players it seemed) who were signing for us. If my company at the time had ever run a phone report of numbers dialled and the cost I would have been in serious s***. The pay phone in our school allowed you to call these numbers for free as you only needed to put money in when you wanted to talk. At least i assume it was free.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Matt Piper was definitely a gazumping (and as it turned out a very lucky escape!) Jesus, forgot all about him. Very lucky indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonian Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I seem to recall we were going to sign Tore Andre Flo at the same time as Egil Ostenstad but something happened then... struggling to remember it now though. With flo, the deal was done and agreed, but we couldn't get granted a work permit from the home office, a few months later Chelsea got him and the work permit was granted for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I think Colin Bell had Lawrie over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 With flo, the deal was done and agreed, but we couldn't get granted a work permit from the home office, a few months later Chelsea got him and the work permit was granted for them London-centric, Chelsea supporting Home Office staff; or good, old fashioned bribery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 John Halls. Was going to be one of our first signings under Burley iirc, he was shown around the training ground and passed his medical. All done. Then Reading came in and it was over, he then joined them instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 John Halls. Was going to be one of our first signings under Burley iirc, he was shown around the training ground and passed his medical. All done. Then Reading came in and it was over, he then joined them instead. Christ, that's a good one! - I barely remember that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 We Did Gazump that there Dirty Leeds for Lee Barnard from Southend, they silly whatsits did have a big welcome spread in they midweek programme but we did have him bought and paid fur from roight under they noses that very same night............... Sorry Gazumped always sounds a bit agricultural to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Dune Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Dune Have you got tourettes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 have you got tourettes? aaahhhh a mod!! Run!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Rumour had it that his missus didn't want to come to Southampton. Rumour also had it that WGS had the deal for Saha and Malbranque lined up with Fulham but Rupert wouldn't come up with the cash. That was absolute ******. I remember Coleman commenting from the training ground on Sky Sports *That's the 3rd time they (Saints) have come in for him (Malbranque). He does not want to leave and we want to keep him". We definitely wanted Malbranque but he was not interested in joining Saints. Saha at that time was one of the hottest prospects in the Premier and we had absolutely no chance of landing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWY Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I think Colin Bell had Lawrie over. I think that was Colin Todd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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