scotty Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 At least he'll have more points than the team :lol: Fixed it for you ;-) I wouldn't put your mortgage on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 He won't get points for drink driving, just a statatory ban;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mouldy Coat Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 He won't get points for drink driving, just a statutory ban ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I was nicked for drunk in charge years ago. All spent now. Problem with drink driving is that no-one sets out to do it. No-one was hurt, but made a stupid mistake, and paid for it. With a bit of distance, probably one of the best things hat happened to me. Happened in my mid 20s. Thought I was invincible. Quick trip to the beak, fine, 6 month ban and seven years of having to declare yourself a criminal is not fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 The point about this is - it's 4.30 in the morning - I take it even if he wasn't going to Stevenage he would be training at some point and there is no way on this eath he is going to be properly fit for training the next day or the same day come to that so yes it is unproffesional as well as stupid. Also, considering he often lacks sharpness I would have thought early nights were essential for him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Windmill Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 No reason to get too worked up about this... yes it's bad behaviour but I bet we all know someone who has done it. Everyone has their off days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I don't think it's fair all this criticism the Porsche Panamera is getting. It's a great car, I have two little 'uns that fit in the back nicely, the ride is quality whether it's a trip into town, a long tour or guzzling the juice around the A roads! and the 2013 version is suppose to be even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dellgirl Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I had hope we had got rid of the heavy drinking culture in the Club during the season , they had very long holidays to be stupid this year. We have a shocking reputation at home and abroad for not being able to handle our booze intake. The foreign players who come to British clubs get sucked into a culture they are not used to and I feel rather sorry for Guly, many are on his back every match , we had lost a match we should have won and he was probably feeling down and was encouraged to stay later and drink much more than he should and possibly getting angry texts from his missus . Does anyone know who the hardcore drinkers at the club are now,they do no-one any favours to their team mates or to us who pay the money to watch them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Essruu Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 So, had he had two or three glasses of wine during and after a meal with friends and assumed he was under the limit? Or had he driven from bar to bar, club to club, getting steadily more smashed, downing shots and champagne on top of 14 pints of lager, then getting in his car whilst mumbling f*** the law? Two very different attitudes and scenarios; I'm sure all of you getting on your moral high horses know exactly what happened and what he'd been doing all night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 He does. All the time. Most of the players do. I have driven him since the incident and, although my professionalism meant we didn't talk about it, he is clearly down about what happened. I can assure you that, knowing him as I do, this was totally out of character. He's a family man, not a boozy big-time Charlie. As you say later on in the thread, it may have just been a silly mistake, we'll have to see when it goes to court what the alcohol reading was. If he regularly gets a driver I'd have to err on the side of an error rather than screw the law of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctoroncall Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 So, had he had two or three glasses of wine during and after a meal with friends and assumed he was under the limit? Or had he driven from bar to bar, club to club, getting steadily more smashed, downing shots and champagne on top of 14 pints of lager, then getting in his car whilst mumbling f*** the law? Two very different attitudes and scenarios; I'm sure all of you getting on your moral high horses know exactly what happened and what he'd been doing all night... I think for me it's more to do with the fact that for a PL footballer it's easy to pay a few hundred quid for a chauffeur car if not a taxi than to take a chance of drink driving than the amount he was drinking. I'm sure the backroom guys and Adkins will have plenty to say regarding his performances if he's drinking too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 So, had he had two or three glasses of wine during and after a meal with friends and assumed he was under the limit? Or had he driven from bar to bar, club to club, getting steadily more smashed, downing shots and champagne on top of 14 pints of lager, then getting in his car whilst mumbling f*** the law? Two very different attitudes and scenarios; I'm sure all of you getting on your moral high horses know exactly what happened and what he'd been doing all night... I think the real question is; what on earth is a professional athlete doing out in his car with alcohol in his system at 4.45 in the morning? No matter whether he was leathered or just slightly over the limit, its an extremely poor decision by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 :lol: I wouldn't put your mortgage on that. What's a mortgage? :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 What's a mortgage? :-) Bastard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I think the real question is; what on earth is a professional athlete doing out in his car with alcohol in his system at 4.45 in the morning? No matter whether he was leathered or just slightly over the limit, its an extremely poor decision by him. This is the point - exactly! He should be fined by the club ......Unless of course this is classed as acceptable by the club and not considered a breach of discipline !!!! If it's acceptable behavior where is the line drawn ..............6.00 am in the morning??? Or is there no line? What is the point of all the millions being spent on the best scientific people and facilities if players are out all night on the razz? We have an international break coming up, perhaps allow them an all nighter then! Christ, you just had about 10 weeks off to do that! Very poor show - lost some respect for this fellow now..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 So, had he had two or three glasses of wine during and after a meal with friends and assumed he was under the limit? Or had he driven from bar to bar, club to club, getting steadily more smashed, downing shots and champagne on top of 14 pints of lager, then getting in his car whilst mumbling f*** the law? Two very different attitudes and scenarios; I'm sure all of you getting on your moral high horses know exactly what happened and what he'd been doing all night... He was over the limit, end of story. Your first scenario is no different from your second in my book. His driving ability would have been impaired either way. He was driving 'erratically' for f*cks sake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 He was over the limit, end of story. Your first scenario is no different from your second in my book. His driving ability would have been impaired either way. He was driving 'erratically' for f*cks sake. I wouldn't hold much store in that; I've been pulled over a couple of times and breathalysed before (I'd not been drinking) and on both occasions the police officer told me that it was because my driving had been "erratic" (it wasn't) and they suspected drink. I think its an excuse that gives the pulling over a bit more credibility than just "I suspect you've been drinking". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Perhaps three late night incidents in about the last year or so involving Saints players drinking and the law, all 'during the season' is painting a picture that requires some thought.............Perhaps the club are not concerned - perhaps there isn't a 'culture' - maybe it's just fine.................Maybe it's how Barcelona do it - I don't know.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 He was in a strip club as well apparently. That should get the holier than thou amongst you into more of a tizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Given the comments on here that as a prem footballer he could easily afford a limo and chauffeur, I'm amazed nobody has resurrected the "taxi for do prado" thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! This is great news! We need a few players on drink driving bans to give us credibility as a proper premier league club. If we can clinch the signings of a couple of useless foreigners for £5m+ on £50k a week or more and make the Sun on Sunday with a spit roast allegation story we are certain to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 (edited) YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! This is great news! We need a few players on drink driving bans to give us credibility as a proper premier league club. If we can clinch the signings of a couple of useless foreigners for £5m+ on £50k a week or more and make the Sun on Sunday with a spit roast allegation story we are certain to stay up. We wont have properly made it until at least 2 of our players have been caught kn*bbing Danielle Lloyd. My money is on Jos and Steve, they seem a pair of lads. Edited 28 August, 2012 by Lighthouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 We wont have properly made it until at least 2 of our players have been caught kn*bbing Daniel Lloyd. My money is on Jos and Steve, they seem a pair of lads. That really would be quite the scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 That really would be quite the scandal. Those cyclists are a filthy bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Makes me laugh the abuse he's getting on twitter. "Should never play for Saints again" "Lock him up for life" "Ban him for 3 games". I do wonder if the reaction would be the same for Lambert, Lallana or Sharp? I don't seem to remember Lambert getting so much abuse for being invloved in a bar fight. I seem to remember the exact opposite reaction for when Barnard allegedly got hammered and bottled someone. And then there was James Beattie who was done for drink driving. Nowhere near those sort of comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Nice little statement from him.... "Good morning everyone, I want to personally respond to the incident that happened on Monday 27 August. I can confirm that the police stopped me on the street after leaving a nightclub but I was not drunk, despite what the media have said. I celebrated with my friends and had drank a little more than authorised but I was still in a state that allowed me to drive my car. I have always been a responsible person and I would not have reached this level without this trait. On this occasion I was accused by someone who was in the same nightclub and I did not pay anything to the police. They asked me for my documents and I spent three hours with them at the station. However, I was not handcuffed like the media have reported. I was then summoned to a hearing taking place in September. I want to apologise to Southampton and the supporters of the club about what has happened. I know that the image of the club is at risk in this situation, but it really was an accident, and I repeat, I was not drunk and did not do anything violent. Football players are very exposed and we have to be more careful in this kind of situation, watching our every step because we are in the public eye. I know that this is an important year for Southampton and certainly the most important year of my career so I will completely dedicate myself for the club during training and helping Southampton to achieve our goals this year. Big hug to all, Guly do Prado" http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/34951_southampton_s_guly_do_prado_issues_statement_regarding_police_incident_.html? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Nice little statement from him.... "Good morning everyone, I want to personally respond to the incident that happened on Monday 27 August. I can confirm that the police stopped me on the street after leaving a nightclub but I was not drunk, despite what the media have said. I celebrated with my friends and had drank a little more than authorised but I was still in a state that allowed me to drive my car. I have always been a responsible person and I would not have reached this level without this trait. On this occasion I was accused by someone who was in the same nightclub and I did not pay anything to the police. They asked me for my documents and I spent three hours with them at the station. However, I was not handcuffed like the media have reported. I was then summoned to a hearing taking place in September. I want to apologise to Southampton and the supporters of the club about what has happened. I know that the image of the club is at risk in this situation, but it really was an accident, and I repeat, I was not drunk and did not do anything violent. Football players are very exposed and we have to be more careful in this kind of situation, watching our every step because we are in the public eye. I know that this is an important year for Southampton and certainly the most important year of my career so I will completely dedicate myself for the club during training and helping Southampton to achieve our goals this year. Big hug to all, Guly do Prado" http://www.sambafoot.com/en/news/34951_southampton_s_guly_do_prado_issues_statement_regarding_police_incident_.html? Interesting that he thinks he was OK to drive, but the breathalyser didn't agree with him. Careless and irresponsible at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Quote, ' had drank a little more than authorised but I was still in a state that allowed me to drive my car'. Wrong! If you were over the legal limit, you were not in a state to drive your car. Let me know if you need a number for a taxi after the hearing. Think I will pass on the hug, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Interesting that he thinks he was OK to drive, but the breathalyser didn't agree with him. Careless and irresponsible at best. Have to agree. We all do stupid things at times - but he should have held his hands up rather than try and justify it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 On this occasion I was accused by someone who was in the same nightclub and I did not pay anything to the police. What's he chattin bout there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 On this occasion I was accused by someone who was in the same nightclub and I did not pay anything to the police. What's he chattin bout there? Trying to imply he only got pulled because he didnt pay off the police by the sound of it Cant see that going down too well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 (edited) That statement is as loose as his touch. Edited 28 August, 2012 by shurlock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Trying to imply he only got pulled because he didnt pay off the police by the sound of it Cant see that going down too well. That's what I thought! Why mention it? I ain't ever been to Brazil but is that how it works down there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 (edited) Just by the by, with regards to me not being selected as a new forum Moderator I want to make it crystal clear that I did not pay any money to stevegrant. Congratulations to JustMike and Skint_Saint. Edited 28 August, 2012 by Bearsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shurlock Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Just by the by, with regards to me not being selected as a new forum Moderator I want to make it crystal clear that I did not pay any money to stevegrant. Congratulations to JustMike and Smirking_Saint. ...or payments in kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 That's what I thought! Why mention it? I ain't ever been to Brazil but is that how it works down there? By the wonders of google I am now an expert on Brazilian drink driving laws. Apparently zero alcohol in the blood is allowed - stricter than the UK - but that 30% of drivers have alcohol in the blood at the weekend - so maybe some do pay the police off. He's got no excuse in saying he didnt know it was illegal though. On June 19, 2008, Brazil passed a zero tolerance law for drivers with any measurable content of alcohol in their blood. Law 11.705 was proposed by the Brazilian Congress and passed by President Luiz Inácio da Silva. The law was proposed in view of studies which show that when it comes to driving under the influence, there is no such thing as a secure level of alcohol content in the blood. Law 11.705 cancels the previous law, which only determined penalties past a .06 BAC (blood alcohol content) level. Instead of only targeting drunk driving, Law 11.075 also targets impaired driving. Valid all over the Brazilian territory, the law also forbids the sale of alcoholic drinks at businesses along the rural stretches of federal roads. Traffic accidents caused by drunk drivers are one of the risks of driving in Brazil. A study conducted in Brazil by UNIAD, a center of studies about alcohol and drugs, revealed that 30% of drivers had alcohol in their blood on weekends.[/SIZE] http://gobrazil.about.com/od/gettingaroundbrazil/a/drylaw.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Thanks Tim. That's interesting, I thought maybe in Brazil drink driving is one of them things that is not technically illegal but just a bit frowned upon, like rape. Guess I had that the wrong way round! It is technically illegal but it sounds like no-one cares! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 maybe in Brazil drink driving is one of them things that is not technically illegal but just a bit frowned upon Bit like corned beef in the UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Sounds like he's probably guilty of doing exactly what most of us have prob all done once or twice before; no more. Doesn't make it right, but the 'holier than though' brigade probably need to get back to raising money for dying kiddies etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammysaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Still a nob after that letter, the fact he is having a hearing means he was over, sorry but fine him 2 weeks wages and leave him out of the squad during that time as well, disgrace to the club, i would be saying the same about Lambo or Lallana if they also were done for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Sounds like he's probably guilty of doing exactly what most of us have prob all done once or twice before; no more. Doesn't make it right, but the 'holier than though' brigade probably need to get back to raising money for dying kiddies etc. Speak for yourself. Nothing 'holier than thou' about chastising a drink driver. Maybe you'd feel different if you knew someone that had been a victim of it. I certainly do, and I'm sure I'm not alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Speak for yourself. Nothing 'holier than thou' about chastising a drink driver. Maybe you'd feel different if you knew someone that had been a victim of it. I certainly do, and I'm sure I'm not alone. I'd agree with that. Jordan Robertson orphaned a couple of children changing his ipod, so why people think drink driving is no big deal is beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John McGrath's Jockstrap Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Notwithstanding the point that you should never drive a car when consuming alcohol, it might have been helpful if Plod had tested him before the game on Saturday, as it would have explained his performance then..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Anybody that is stupid enough to drink and drive deserves what ever they get. That goes for all players be it Ricky, Adam, Jay, or Guly. If it was any of the first 3 I'd consider them just as stupid as I think Guly is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 there but by the grace of god goes me 35 years ago, just did not get caught Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Whats the fine for being drunkenly in charge of a football ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Craig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Before this news was common knowledge I was told by someone at work that they had seen Guly out in his Porsche sunday night, he rolled up outside 90 Degrees to pick up Nathaniel Clyne and obviously drove off. Makes me wonder whether Clyne was a passenger at the time of arrest. Taxi for Clyne? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 By the wonders of google I am now an expert on Brazilian drink driving laws. Apparently zero alcohol in the blood is allowed - stricter than the UK - but that 30% of drivers have alcohol in the blood at the weekend - so maybe some do pay the police off. He's got no excuse in saying he didnt know it was illegal though. On June 19, 2008, Brazil passed a zero tolerance law for drivers with any measurable content of alcohol in their blood. Law 11.705 was proposed by the Brazilian Congress and passed by President Luiz Inácio da Silva. The law was proposed in view of studies which show that when it comes to driving under the influence, there is no such thing as a secure level of alcohol content in the blood. Law 11.705 cancels the previous law, which only determined penalties past a .06 BAC (blood alcohol content) level. Instead of only targeting drunk driving, Law 11.075 also targets impaired driving. Valid all over the Brazilian territory, the law also forbids the sale of alcoholic drinks at businesses along the rural stretches of federal roads. Traffic accidents caused by drunk drivers are one of the risks of driving in Brazil. A study conducted in Brazil by UNIAD, a center of studies about alcohol and drugs, revealed that 30% of drivers had alcohol in their blood on weekends.[/SIZE] http://gobrazil.about.com/od/gettingaroundbrazil/a/drylaw.htm He's lived in Italy a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Well, Nigel was not happy at all when asked about Guly...Said when the police have finished he WILL face the consequences.. Simple as that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nigel=God-Poyet=Sod Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Nigel answered the Guly questioned very directly and sounded like he wasn't at all happy with him. Could be in a spot of bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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