MOSaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 was hoping we would sign him, glad we now have as i think he can do well for us. certainly better than jrod out wide left has done so far. When you mentioned Mayuka the other day you said you'd heard about interest in Aubameyang, heard anymore on him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Another striker? any chance he can play CB as well? I'm really not sure forwards are where we need strengthening but hey maybe he's the next Demba ba or something..... I...am....utterly flabbergasted that this has gone through. Nothing against Mayuka, but whilst we are running around like headless chickens about reinforcing our defence, we've bought another striker. Has Cortese taken lessons from George Burley about obsessive transfer activity or something ? FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Lee, Rodriguez, Lambert and Sharp will all play a part. We need them all. This guy comes in as an alternative to what we don't have at the moment. I honestly don't know what's hard to understand about that. We're improving the squad by adding something EVERYONE was saying we lacked. Come on. We now have 5 first team strikers fighting for one position unless they are played out of position on the wing. I'm sure when Lee & Sharp signed last season they didn't intend on just playing a part & didnt expect us to sign another two strikers this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 This is laughable. Why are we signing more 'inexperienced' players in positions where we have plenty of options? I hope he proves me wrong but he hardly has the sort of experience that we need in the Premier league. I'm also getting increasingly concerned at how NA intends on keeping everybody happy. Oh, and how about we sign some ****ing defenders who can hack it at this level. PLEASE! Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Will definitely add something we don't have at the moment and that is pace. Pace frightens defenders. Wouldn't be surprised to see one forward moved on before the weekend though. Possibly Sharp, though I hope not. All our players will play a part but going to be tough keeping them all happy. Sign Ramirez and 2 defenders and we have the squad to stay up. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 stfuayt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 If Lee, Rodriguez and Sharp arent the players we need we shouldnt have signed them. Still think Sharp was signed to get us promoted as we couldn't get Hooper or Rodriguez - it worked by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 We now have 5 first team strikers fighting for one position unless they are played out of position on the wing. I'm sure when Lee & Sharp signed last season they didn't intend on just playing a part & didnt expect us to sign another two strikers this summer. Well now they'll have to earn a place in the team, if they can't do that or get stroppy they'll be moved on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K,Billy's supersound Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 When you mentioned Mayuka the other day you said you'd heard about interest in Aubameyang, heard anymore on him? nothing on him. but a name floating about is Yoshida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Still think Sharp was signed to get us promoted as we couldn't get Hooper or Rodriguez - it worked by the way. I thought Sharp had a big role to play this season - seems I was mistaken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Still think Sharp was signed to get us promoted as we couldn't get Hooper or Rodriguez - it worked by the way. True. I rate him as more than a championship though, Tadanari potentially has what it takes too. When people moan about our lack of pace up front what they mean is RL is painfully slow. Thats the issue, not simply signing more strikers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Lets just ignore him and talk about the signing. I wonder where he will play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Seems to me that we have several transfers in place, once the shirt numbers were announced this became quite obvious. This week seems to be about finalising deals that have been nearing completion for some time. Mayuka take the #24, Ramirez #10, #3 & #15 (LB & CB) hopefully to be announced soon to placate the folks screaming for defenders (and justifiably so to a large extent). Personally I hope there is still another GK to come. Must admit this bloke does look the dogs ******** on YouTube, his pace looks awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Watching the 10 min clip on YouTube this guy seems comfortable on the left wing, an area where we aren't strong. He also looks bloody amazing, you can't really turn down talent like that even if you need defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Watching the 10 min clip on YouTube this guy seems comfortable on the left wing, an area where we aren't strong. He also looks bloody amazing, you can't really turn down talent like that even if you need defenders Does look good - suggests one forward may leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Let's be honest here this could be another of Niges gambles. Naturally I hope the lad does well and he has potential but we all thought that about other players like Deridder. By all accounts he is a striker, not a winger. We are already playing players out of position and its not going so well. Adam should of stayed on the wing and Jay should be up front. If Burley made signings and played them out of position he would of got slated for it. I don't see why we should be any different with Adkins. The guy comes from a lot less competitive league and making the leap to premiership is huge in my opinion. We can't keep buying players and hope they Can convert to a winger. We need to buy someone who is experienced and specialises in that position. Phillips would of been ideal but if not him then the Ramirez deal has to go through or we will basically be going half the season hoping somE strikers can play on the wing. Experimenting in the championship is one thing but doing it in the premier league is something else. I got nothing against the lad and wish him all the best but should we really be looking at more strikers? Of all the positions its the one we have most cover in already Lambert, Lee, Sharp, Jay Rod, Guly, and now Myuka. That's before you consider 2 strikers are still on the books and are out on loan. We shouldn't be happy that we are signing people simply for the sake of signing people. We should be happy we are signing people to make our weak areas more stronger. I fail to see how this signing does that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi7s Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Sharp is not good enough to start in the PL. Too slow, poor first touch, and struggles to hold up the ball (crucial when playing 3 attacking midfielders). Good finisher mind and would be a shame to see him moved on as he helped get us here, but such is football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 (edited) The people moaning about us signing another attacking player obviously did not see the Wigan game,can you not see that if you play 433 you have to have pace on the wings,none of the players that played against Wigan had pace and that was our first team. For this formation to work we will have to adapt,if that means getting players in that can play there then so be it. Everyone is a armchair manager myself included so don't worry about no cb signings yet they will come. NA and NC will know what we need and will get them Edited 28 August, 2012 by pangy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Let's be honest here this could be another of Niges gambles. Naturally I hope the lad does well and he has potential but we all thought that about other players like Deridder. By all accounts he is a striker, not a winger. We are already playing players out of position and its not going so well. Adam should of stayed on the wing and Jay should be up front. If Burley made signings and played them out of position he would of got slated for it. I don't see why we should be any different with Adkins. The guy comes from a lot less competitive league and making the leap to premiership is huge in my opinion. We can't keep buying players and hope they Can convert to a winger. We need to buy someone who is experienced and specialises in that position. Phillips would of been ideal but if not him then the Ramirez deal has to go through or we will basically be going half the season hoping somE strikers can play on the wing. Experimenting in the championship is one thing but doing it in the premier league is something else. I got nothing against the lad and wish him all the best but should we really be looking at more strikers? Of all the positions its the one we have most cover in already Lambert, Lee, Sharp, Jay Rod, Guly, and now Myuka. That's before you consider 2 strikers are still on the books and are out on loan. We shouldn't be happy that we are signing people simply for the sake of signing people. We should be happy we are signing people to make our weak areas more stronger. I fail to see how this signing does that? Good post. Maybe you wont get so screamed at for saying something similar to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 One reason to sign this guy..........plan B Not the singer/actor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Lambert/Rodriguez/Lee/Mayuka is a good four. Two target men and two skillful bags of pace. Sharp I'm afraid is going to struggle at Premiership level. He's just too much of an old school poacher that granted can tear up the c/ship but is just far too easy to defend against in the Prem. Kinda like my usernamesake really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 One reason to sign this guy..........plan B Not the singer/actor Lets get Plan A sorted out first. The one that means defending as well as attacking... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Lets get Plan A sorted out first. The one that means defending as well as attacking... What makes you think we can't work on signing more than one player at a time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Lets get Plan A sorted out first. The one that means defending as well as attacking... Good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinR Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 2 points ... He was top scorer at the last African cup of nations, Id say that means he's good enough. And he has an amazing back flip goal celebration, we need more back flips at st marys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 What makes you think we can't work on signing more than one player at a time? He won't have an answer to that, but it just fits his current agenda perfectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 2 points ... He was top scorer at the last African cup of nations, Id say that means he's good enough. And he has an amazing back flip goal celebration, we need more back flips at st marys Now we're PL - we need PL goal celebrations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 What makes you think we can't work on signing more than one player at a time? Only women can multitask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 As I said, ignore the troll and lets talk about the signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 What makes you think we can't work on signing more than one player at a time? We will see over the next 3 days, I presume... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 stfuayt . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 As I said, ignore the troll and lets talk about the signing. Yes, everyone, hypo wants to know where we will play a striker. Let me think......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I...am....utterly flabbergasted that this has gone through. Nothing against Mayuka, but whilst we are running around like headless chickens about reinforcing our defence, we've bought another striker. Has Cortese taken lessons from George Burley about obsessive transfer activity or something ? FFS. Maybe wait until the window closes before complaining about no other signings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COYR_CHEF Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 I can't believe how many idiots troll these boards.. Mayuka looks quality and his main asset is FINISHING! What did we lack against wigan? Ummm... FINISHING! Sharp is a championship player, he won't cut it against PL defenders.. Mayuka has pace to burn.. And he knows how to stick it in the back of the net.. Great signing, great price, believe in the bosses boys they got us here in the first place.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 As I said, ignore the troll and lets talk about the signing. Agree, let his current little worm wriggle around his brain for a couple of days. Like a screaming child who is having a tantrum, ignore them and they will get tired and stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Lets get Plan A sorted out first. The one that means defending as well as attacking... Yep. If only the window was still open for a few days to buy some more players for Plan A. Oh, wait... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 As said, this fella can play along the front 3. So he can operate frot he left, right or up front. He's got pace and trickery to beat a player and also provides plenty of assists for his team mates as illustrated in his stats for his country and clubs. Since pre-season I've looked at the way we setup, through the middle it's very pretty and we look incredibly impressive and tidy moving the ball around - it always seemed to grind to a halt as soon as we got to the final third though, as we lacked a player who could take someone on and beat them for pace. This guy will give us the attribute we lacked and it will go a long way to making this formation a success. This guy will be a bit of an unknown quality at first, so teams won't really know a great deal about him - so he'll be a great weapon. But I think we can all be assured that he won't be used as an out and out striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 All these posters willing to discard Billy Sharp to one side just because The Next Best Thing has arrived should be ashamed. What happened to loyalty to players who make big contributions to the teams success ? I am seriously troubled by my opinion that Fonte cannot cut it for us in the PL, because he made such a contribution 2 years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cascadia Saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Agree, let his current little worm wriggle around his brain for a couple of days. Like a screaming child who is having a tantrum, ignore them and they will get tired and stop What if the tantrum goes on and on in an endless loop for years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Kint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Let's be honest here this could be another of Niges gambles. Naturally I hope the lad does well and he has potential but we all thought that about other players like Deridder. By all accounts he is a striker, not a winger. We are already playing players out of position and its not going so well. Adam should of stayed on the wing and Jay should be up front. If Burley made signings and played them out of position he would of got slated for it. I don't see why we should be any different with Adkins. The guy comes from a lot less competitive league and making the leap to premiership is huge in my opinion. We can't keep buying players and hope they Can convert to a winger. We need to buy someone who is experienced and specialises in that position. Phillips would of been ideal but if not him then the Ramirez deal has to go through or we will basically be going half the season hoping somE strikers can play on the wing. Experimenting in the championship is one thing but doing it in the premier league is something else. I got nothing against the lad and wish him all the best but should we really be looking at more strikers? Of all the positions its the one we have most cover in already Lambert, Lee, Sharp, Jay Rod, Guly, and now Myuka. That's before you consider 2 strikers are still on the books and are out on loan. We shouldn't be happy that we are signing people simply for the sake of signing people. We should be happy we are signing people to make our weak areas more stronger. I fail to see how this signing does that? Good post. Maybe you wont get so screamed at for saying something similar to me. Tell me about Mayuka then Alpine? What are his strengths/weaknesses? Why do you think he can only play as a central striker? Why isn't he capable of playing in a 3 the way NA wants to play? And, more importantly considering i'm willing to bet you've never seen the bloke play, why do you instantly write him off as 'another striker' before actually seeing him play and then make a judgement? And you wonder why peaople get bored of your knee jerk reactions.... Signing Mayuka does not mean we won't sign a defender. You're an adult so start acting like one and show some patience. You come across as a child constantly banging on to their parents "are we there yet?" The window closes on Friday night so why don't you judge our transfer dealings as a whole on saturday morning like most normal people will? We need an injection of pace in our forward play, hopefully this lad will give us that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Tell me about Mayuka then Alpine? What are his strengths/weaknesses? Why do you think he can only play as a central striker? Why isn't he capable of playing in a 3 the way NA wants to play? And, more importantly considering i'm willing to bet you've never seen the bloke play, why do you instantly write him off as 'another striker' before actually seeing him play and then make a judgement? And you wonder why peaople get bored of your knee jerk reactions.... Signing Mayuka does not mean we won't sign a defender. You're an adult so start acting like one and show some patience. You come across as a child constantly banging on to their parents "are we there yet?" The window closes on Friday night so why don't you judge our transfer dealings as a whole on saturday morning like most normal people will? We need an injection of pace in our forward play, hopefully this lad will give us that Are you forgetting about the squad limit ? Which forward are you happy to see the back of in order to accommodate him plus the absolutely necessary defenders that MUST be in the pipeline for the next 72 hours ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 28 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 28 August, 2012 All these posters willing to discard Billy Sharp to one side just because The Next Best Thing has arrived should be ashamed. What happened to loyalty to players who make big contributions to the teams success ? I am seriously troubled by my opinion that Fonte cannot cut it for us in the PL, because he made such a contribution 2 years ago... It's all about the evolution of the squad, some players will continue with us and some will be left by the wayside. It's what happens if you're ambitious and want to keep pushing for the top. There will come a time where players like Lambert are left by the wayside. Billy scored massive goals for us, and I still think he'll play a role this season - but it will be a reduced one. I imagine he'll go out on loan after christmas to get some game time. For £1.5m though, we got our moneys worth as he helped us over the line. Sometimes that happens. Brum did it with Rowen Vine a few years back, scored some big goals as they secured 2nd - but was then left by the way side when they were in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 All these posters willing to discard Billy Sharp to one side just because The Next Best Thing has arrived should be ashamed. What happened to loyalty to players who make big contributions to the teams success ? I am seriously troubled by my opinion that Fonte cannot cut it for us in the PL, because he made such a contribution 2 years ago... Why? Yes he was good for us, but when you progress the best thing is to let such players go so they can continue to be successful at the appropriate level. We essentially play with 3 forwards so I don't think we've got too many anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COYR_CHEF Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 All these posters willing to discard Billy Sharp to one side just because The Next Best Thing has arrived should be ashamed. What happened to loyalty to players who make big contributions to the teams success ? I am seriously troubled by my opinion that Fonte cannot cut it for us in the PL, because he made such a contribution 2 years ago... Premier League is ruthless, we did the same thing when going from League 1 to championship, now it happens again, u need to upgrade to each level u rise to, and with this, u have players pushed to the side.. It's evolution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 As said, this fella can play along the front 3. So he can operate frot he left, right or up front. He's got pace and trickery to beat a player and also provides plenty of assists for his team mates as illustrated in his stats for his country and clubs. Since pre-season I've looked at the way we setup, through the middle it's very pretty and we look incredibly impressive and tidy moving the ball around - it always seemed to grind to a halt as soon as we got to the final third though, as we lacked a player who could take someone on and beat them for pace. This guy will give us the attribute we lacked and it will go a long way to making this formation a success. This guy will be a bit of an unknown quality at first, so teams won't really know a great deal about him - so he'll be a great weapon. But I think we can all be assured that he won't be used as an out and out striker. Agree with all this. It's amazing how many people don't seem to get your last point though. For me, we now have: Central strikers: 1 of Lambert, Rodriguez, Sharp Wide forwards: 3 of Mayuka, Lee, Guly, Puncheon, Ramirez or another. Doesnt seem excessive to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 As said, this fella can play along the front 3. So he can operate frot he left, right or up front. He's got pace and trickery to beat a player and also provides plenty of assists for his team mates as illustrated in his stats for his country and clubs. Since pre-season I've looked at the way we setup, through the middle it's very pretty and we look incredibly impressive and tidy moving the ball around - it always seemed to grind to a halt as soon as we got to the final third though, as we lacked a player who could take someone on and beat them for pace. This guy will give us the attribute we lacked and it will go a long way to making this formation a success. This guy will be a bit of an unknown quality at first, so teams won't really know a great deal about him - so he'll be a great weapon. But I think we can all be assured that he won't be used as an out and out striker. THIS. However, those that either don't watch us or have a poor lack of knowledge on the formation we're trying to play will dismiss it. We're getting there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 It's all about the evolution of the squad, some players will continue with us and some will be left by the wayside. It's what happens if you're ambitious and want to keep pushing for the top. There will come a time where players like Lambert are left by the wayside. Billy scored massive goals for us, and I still think he'll play a role this season - but it will be a reduced one. I imagine he'll go out on loan after christmas to get some game time. For £1.5m though, we got our moneys worth as he helped us over the line. Sometimes that happens. Brum did it with Rowen Vine a few years back, scored some big goals as they secured 2nd - but was then left by the way side when they were in the prem. "evolution" infers the passage of time. Billy only got here a few months ago. I am troubled that we got him in so recently and now some people see him as history. Have we already become so fickle as Man City and Chelsea fans ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 All these posters willing to discard Billy Sharp to one side just because The Next Best Thing has arrived should be ashamed. What happened to loyalty to players who make big contributions to the teams success ? I am seriously troubled by my opinion that Fonte cannot cut it for us in the PL, because he made such a contribution 2 years ago... Good, good. So I can assume you'll be happy when we're loyal to Fonte, Hoiveld (sp) and Fox... or doesn't loyalty count with defenders?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Cant help but laugh when ppl mention nixon he trolls twitter and forums and tweets sh1te Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2 As people have said he's been very accurate on transfers for Saints. I know there's a lot of *****s on Twitter but he seems to know what he's talking about. Don't like the sound of this.... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aston-villa-transfer-news-rickie-1283963 . I'd be VERY surprised if the club sold the fans favourite. Yes he's 30 and every player has a price, but Lambert is a modern legend of the club. There'd be uproar if he gets sold this week. Villa can find someone else. Lambert/Rodriguez/Lee/Mayuka is a good four. Two target men and two skillful bags of pace. Sharp I'm afraid is going to struggle at Premiership level. He's just too much of an old school poacher that granted can tear up the c/ship but is just far too easy to defend against in the Prem. Kinda like my usernamesake really. I think it's harsh to rule Sharp out before he's even been given a decent shot at this level. Granted he'll never move mountains in this league but he's got a knack for goals. I'd give him a bash at least to see how he copes. That said, if we do move a striker on this week, which I don't think we will, I would expect it to be Sharp more so than Rickie. As for Mayuka? Well besides from the stats and the YouTube vid, I know nothing about him, but he looks good, quick, skillful and an eye for goal, and it's a signing, so I'm happy. I can't believe people are moaning about this - the first signing we've made in what feels like months. Yes he's a striker not a centre back. So what? He's going to make us better, because he's better than what we have. Adkins philosophy on transfers. Centre backs will come, nobody in football is stupid enough to see our centre back situation and not change it before the deadline. I'm sure the club is working their ******** off to get more reinforcements in, and I expect them to do just that. Keep cool. 3 days remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 but is this new guy Johnno quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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