Saint Stimp Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I meant the last ditch lunge that nearly conceded an own goal really... Skrtel fully passed the ball to Tevez yesterday, even the top defenders make mistakes. Luke Shaw would be off then if we sign up a younger LB. Profits to be made? How do you figure that?? Just because we buy another player who can play in his position doesn't mean we're getting rid, it's not a 1 in 1 out policy. My guess would be that this guy would primarily be LB but would also provide cover at CB for Jos. Hate to judge on the youtube video but he looks composed on the ball and a decent passer, fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Well, if shaw is good enough, he should be playing now. Fox is a liability, so he needs replacing. I'd let him Go personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Saints and Ajax have had links for a long time via academy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Spoke to My Bologna supporting mate earlier - says GR is very average and no better than Chaplow!!!! Spoke to My Barca supporting mate earlier - says AF is very average and no better than Seaborne What does your Ajax supporting mate say about Boilesen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 What does your Ajax supporting mate say about Boilesen? says NB is very average and no better than Dickson!!! Dont shoot the messenger, just passing on what ive been told! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 says NB is very average and no better than Dickson!!! Dont shoot the messenger, just passing on what ive been told! Thanks, prepare for the happy clappies to say you are making it up though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Boilesen looks a good left side player ay LB LM and LW.......Not sure about Centre Back... Video viewing only.. Personally I think we already have.. in Luke Shaw... a better player. Shaw is ready to star for Saints.. If given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Thanks, prepare for the happy clappies to say you are making it up though! Play the post not the poster ffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Thanks, prepare for the happy clappies to say you are making it up though! He is making it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainchris Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 We only have one useable left back in Shaw. Fox is so far from being a premier league player that you can totally discount him.....We need a quality left back ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I spent all last season thinking I must be missing something with Fox, as I didn't rate any higher than Harding personally, and others seemed to think he was good. He does have talent but hispositional sense just isn't up to scratch for me. So if we sign anther LB, I presume Fox will go leavong Luke Shaw in exactly the same place in the pecking order as he is now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 If we we're to sign his guy, maybe fox would be close to being moved on in this window or next. I don't think he's good enough for the prem. No pace, no desire to get forwards and never quick enough to close down....has anyone seen him actually tackle someone before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohwhenthesaints Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 He is making it up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Saints and Ajax have had links for a long time via academy. We have links with Barcalona as well after the mutal respect that was built up during the Ronnie Ekland transfer. It seems players from Ajax and Barcelona are queuing up to join us. Between the three giants of world football there are 52 domestic titles. 8 champions league titles, Five cup winners cups, Four UEFA cups, two world club cups, one FA cup and One Johnstones paint trophy. You can't help but feel any player that makes the switch would be swapping guaranteed success in one country for another so any deal should be seamless. The Ronnie Eklund and Johan Cruyff transfers seem to support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I don't follow you. He is clearly on a wind up as I imagine you have realised. Nothing from Saint Charlie's reply shows that he has realised that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I'll bet you a cheese sandwich that we don't sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 If we we're to sign his guy, maybe fox would be close to being moved on in this window or next. I don't think he's good enough for the prem. No pace, no desire to get forwards and never quick enough to close down....has anyone seen him actually tackle someone before? I'm really excited at the prospect of buying a promising Danish player, but just discarding a Scottish international with close to 300 league matches for a (currently injured) youngster with 10 league games for Ajax would be a rash move IMHO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I'll bet you a cheese sandwich that we don't sign him. How big is the cheese sandwich? For my kids, I'll cut it in 4 so it would be a quarter of the two bits of bread with the cheese in the middle. Are we talking the full two bits of bread, cheese (my fave is red leicester), u****? I need clarification before entering into any bet with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I'm really excited at the prospect of buying a promising Danish player, but just discarding a Scottish international with close to 300 league matches for a (currently injured) youngster with 10 league games for Ajax would be a rash move IMHO! Perhaps. I just don't see Fox as being the long term solution at LB at this level. If Boilsen or even Shaw can tackle, close down and be more progressive going forwards I would play them despite age and inexperience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Perhaps. I just don't see Fox as being the long term solution at LB at this level. If Boilsen or even Shaw can tackle, close down and be more progressive going forwards I would play them despite age and inexperience. I'm quite happy about Fox because of his determination and sweet left peg but not oblivious to his faults (and there are quite a few ) - I'm just not sure that Boilesen is ready for the Premier League just yet. He has been unlucky with injuries and has never had a longer run in the Ajax team, so it would be quite a gamble to rely on him from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 We have links with Barcalona as well after the mutal respect that was built up during the Ronnie Ekland transfer. It seems players from Ajax and Barcelona are queuing up to join us. Between the three giants of world football there are 52 domestic titles. 8 champions league titles, Five cup winners cups, Four UEFA cups, two world club cups, one FA cup and One Johnstones paint trophy. You can't help but feel any player that makes the switch would be swapping guaranteed success in one country for another so any deal should be seamless. The Ronnie Eklund and Johan Cruyff transfers seem to support this. you **** lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I'm really excited at the prospect of buying a promising Danish player, but just discarding a Scottish international with close to 300 league matches for a (currently injured) youngster with 10 league games for Ajax would be a rash move IMHO! I don't think "discarding a Scottish international" is really relevant. Boilesen has same number of caps as Fox, and Denmark are ranked 10th by FIFA while Scotland are ranked, oh I don't know I got down to 40th and gave up* :-) Your note about experience is more relevant, although clearly the experience has not resulted in Danny learning as much as one would expect, at 26 he is probably at his prime and is clearly struggling at PL level. I still think he will be very useful in the squad, and it will be good to have 2/3 FBs fighting for a place. But its also probably clear that NA does not think Fox is the answer, hence the 3 shirt has been left vacant. *46th actually. Just winding Kraken up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I don't think "discarding a Scottish international" is really relevant. Boilesen has same number of caps as Fox, and Denmark are ranked 10th by FIFA while Scotland are ranked, oh I don't know I got down to 40th and gave up* :-) Your note about experience is more relevant, although clearly the experience has not resulted in Danny learning as much as one would expect, at 26 he is probably at his prime and is clearly struggling at PL level. I still think he will be very useful in the squad, and it will be good to have 2/3 FBs fighting for a place. But its also probably clear that NA does not think Fox is the answer, hence the 3 shirt has been left vacant. *46th actually. Just winding Kraken up. As I wrote in #70, it's not so much the greatness of Fox that should be scrutinised, rather the inexperience of Boilesen. Maybe, just maybe, Boilesen is already a better player than Fox, but it would be a gamble to rely on him with so few first team matches. Oh, and if Scotland and Denmark played today, I'm convinced that the Scottish would defy the FIFA rankings and win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintbletch Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 We have links with Barcalona as well after the mutal respect that was built up during the Ronnie Ekland transfer. It seems players from Ajax and Barcelona are queuing up to join us. Between the three giants of world football there are 52 domestic titles. 8 champions league titles, Five cup winners cups, Four UEFA cups, two world club cups, one FA cup and One Johnstones paint trophy. You can't help but feel any player that makes the switch would be swapping guaranteed success in one country for another so any deal should be seamless. The Ronnie Eklund and Johan Cruyff transfers seem to support this. Very good Turkish! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 3 of my mates are season tickets holders at Ajax, and according to them Boilesen has pace, has a good cross, can tackle, is strong and can play CB as LB. The major downside to him is that he is very injury prone, has had many muscle and ankle injuries. They also cant see Ajax selling him for as little as 5 million, if he can shake of his injuries he has the possibility to become a very good player. (the last LB we bought from Ajax was old Jelle van Damme) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 (the last LB we bought from Ajax was old Jelle van Damme) Really can't understand how come Ajax ever had JvD, one of the worst players we ever signed imho, and really has never made it that big since, despite 29 caps for Belgium. Odd thing is that he had only played 18 times for Ajax before he signed for us, only a few more than Boilesen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Danish interview with Boilesen: http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/udenlandsk_fodbold/holland/article1814599.ece It's just your usual circular news story. Player is linked to club, paper interviews player, other papers can quote interview etc. Basic rundown: - we're interested and want to pay £5,5M - he only heard about the interest from the Dutch press 10 minutes before being interviewed by Danish press - PL is interesting, happy at Ajax, no further comments - still injured and may be back in a month, though it could take longer - Arsenal and AC Milan also interested So this doesn't seem to be close to happening. Not saying it definitely won't happen, but it must be in the very early stages if there is anything to the rumour... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Mockles Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Why on earth would journalists be bothering to conjure names out of nowhere? We are talking about Southampton possibly signing a centre back or a left back. No journalist breathing air is that desperate for copy. What a world you live in. I think it's part of the forum mentality. Mental but par for the course. Some people moan at others for posting rumours, some moan for the intonation of posts, then some moan cos they're not confirmed or accuse members of making it up. Generally, they aren't confirmed until signed and the club announce it. I think a certain element struggle to comprehend the basic function of a sporting chat forum. Some post things they've heard and got chastised for being an attention seekers (which there are but it's expected as any comment on newspaper sites or youTube is met with vitriol and trolling). Live with it. If chatting about sport upsets you because you know nothing or have no contacts, I'd suggest to avoid chat forums and this isn't the platform for you. 2 baked hack making up sports headlines....whatever next! ;o) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 27 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Ajax full-back Nicolai Boilesen has been linked with Southampton and Arsenal, with reports in the Daily Mirror claiming the Saints have tabled a £5million bid for the Dane. The youngster says he is unaware of any interest but is flattered by the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy Diamond Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I'll bet you a cheese sandwich that we don't sign him. Grated or sliced cheese? In fact, what kind of cheese, what kind of bread, what kind of butter... I'm tempted if the right combo is provided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANISH Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 We should not sign him, not because I don't rate him but because he still is injured and no one knows when hes fit again. If he was healthy then I would choose him over Fox any day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 We should not sign him, not because I don't rate him but because he still is injured and no one knows when hes fit again. If he was healthy then I would choose him over Fox any day Whats wrong with him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 We should not sign him, not because I don't rate him but because he still is injured and no one knows when hes fit again. If he was healthy then I would choose him over Fox any day surely he'd fail the medical then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 surely he'd fail the medical then? Its not a question of passing or failing medical. The medics will assess the injury and whether he will recover fully or whether there would be some lasting damage. We would probably still sign him unless there was a serious risk that he would not fully recover. As long as we don't use the same medics as we did for Tin Man a few years back we should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANISH Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Whats wrong with him? Don't know, but he mentions in this article that he's not sure if would take him 3 weeks or 1,5 month to get fit enough to play matches again. http://ekstrabladet.dk/sport/fodbold/udenlandsk_fodbold/holland/article1814599.ece He is flattered by the interest though :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Hamstring injury according to a google search: http://espnfc.com/en/news/1060226/boilesen-injury-doubt.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 A 6foot 5" left back that can play CB too. Cool. He made 23 squad of the Tournament at the under 21's Finals in Denmark last year. Can't be that bad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 Personally I can't see this: the guy hadnt heard of the link until he was told about it and it has only appeared in the Mirror. For 5m I think the CB and wide positions have to be a priority and then if we get a LB its an added bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 28 August, 2012 Share Posted 28 August, 2012 We need a 433 left back that I know Fox is not a 433 LB, he is more suited 442 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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