notnowcato Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 So much so in fact I will not go to see Saints this season. Or visit a Saints forum?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 This could be a ploy to make it easier for fans to buy tickets to away games... Sell SRL, watch certain fans throw toys out of prams and refuse to watch Saints ever again, tickets become much easier for everybody else to buy. SIMPLES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 This would be a bloody stupid idea if you ask me. Not only does he deserve the chance to play in the prem but he's so intelligent in his play that we need him for the others to rotate around. I also think it'd go down incredibly badly with some of the other players such as Lallana. We can't afford to ruin the team spirit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 We would get ridiculed in tgeb football world if we did. It won't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcjwills Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 What suprises me is all those that think Sharp will leave. We only bought him last season and he add to the bench as he is a dangerous player to come on when chasing the game. As much as I would hate to see SRL leave, I can see the logicin the clubs thinking if it was to come to pass, 4 to 5 million for player that is coming towards the end of his career is going to be good business. The clubs policy is tending towards a young side on fairly long contracts that are going to grow as a side together a la German or Spanish national side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 There is no logic in selling your star player and a club legend when you want to give yourself the best chance of staying up..no logic at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 You didn't understand what I said. seemed clear, but clarify if you feel the need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monk Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Egg on your face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 This type of top level move does happen ..occasionally. One Prem. club selling a good player to another. Rickie won't want to go to Blackburn .(now he's got to the Prem. and especially after their Cup performance, but VILLA is another thing... NA has made it plain that no-one has a guaranteed place in the start line-up, and one day RL will have " peaked " in his career. At 30 he knows his shelf life is very short compared to the 20-plusers we are signing now. ..but ASTON VILLA ...there is another proposition....still Prem. and willing to lay out £4 million - did I read? I don't expect NA to stand around waiting for RL to lose this permanent place which he might well be able to command at Villa Park. As an oldie myself, I can recall the fan-uproar when Lawrie McMenemy let Terry Paine go ............and years later Mick Channon the two biggest names in the clubs history at that time ...(it didn't make him more popular at the time,) but the timing was right. We've got new talent on the way. They may take time to settle, but the majority of people I read on this site throw doubts on the suitability of most of out Championship sides ability to make it in the Prem.... ...and the closer you look ..the more truth there is to that. We are planning long term (acc.to NA /NC) so the likes of KD and RL won't be around in 2-3 years time...most people are already to admit the future of Jos and Fonte is in doubt, so this is the "Generation Game " in reality. I don't expect everyone to exit in one go, but I seriously doubt if we will have 4, maybe 5 of the current start side stillas first choicers ..come May, and Rickie may well be the first to depart. I didn't say I liked the idea.. btw....but decades of following football has taught me that ...nothing is ever a surprise.... The worst one in my opinion was Shearer (plus others) to Blackburn. Yes we got a big price even if Askham forgot a selling on fee. We slid down the table and Blackburn won the league. I am not suggesting that we would have won the league as we were always short of three or four quality players but it marked our position in the League for years to come. I therefore cannot see SRL being sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Noone even tweeted about this ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Nonce sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 SSN now talking about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintSarah Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Villa want him apparently on SSN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Villa may well be interested but in Rickies mind he must be thinking; would I rather stay here at a club with financial backing and an ambitious chairman and manger. Go to villa a club falling apart at the seams who have to rely on filling a match day squad with youth players and the chairman that always cashes in on good talents. Obvious choice for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 There appears to be interest from Villa, but as Ricky is in his 1st season in the prem I'd be surprised if he wanted to leave. He is comfortable here has the full support of the manager & fans and is under little pressure. If he went for a fee of 4/5 million he'd be under intense pressure to perform. I just wonder if that sort of fee was offered would we be interested? I'd hope not but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddog Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 SRL is a legend for the goals he has scored getting us to the premier league but just because we love him doesn't mean he has any particular loyalty to Southampton. In the current football climate, loyalty has gone so it could be that SRL wants a move to an established prem club for the cash. He is 30 and a move to villa would see him guaranteed to start where as with Saints is see him floating in and out of the squad. If he feels he will only get 1 season in the big time he may rather play all the time than rotate and I feel Villa will give him that guaranteed start. I would hate to see him go, but if we replace with better then i don't see the problem. People need to look at both sides in these stories, could be the club want to sell as they feel we now have better and the price is right or could be the player actually wants to move. Just because SRL is a legend in our eyes, we shouldn't think this is at all the same the other way from SRL. Le Tiss was a one off, doesn't mean that every great player we have will be as loyal! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 The worst one in my opinion was Shearer (plus others) to Blackburn. Yes we got a big price even if Askham forgot a selling on fee. We slid down the table and Blackburn won the league. I am not suggesting that we would have won the league as we were always short of three or four quality players but it marked our position in the League for years to come. (that) .was partially due to the fact that we sold our other "star players " like Jeff Kenna and Tim Flowers at about the same time. It's no wonder Blackburn won the title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I'm as big a fan of Rickie as any but I just wonder if he does have a future here. Our game seems to now revolve around movement and pace, or at least that's how Nige seems to want it to. something Rickie doesn't have in his locker, he has a lot of strengths but not these. I still think he has an lot to offer us but im wondering if he'll get many starts once Rodriguez, Mayakua and Ramirez have bedded in and Lee is fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 There is no logic in selling your star player and a club legend when you want to give yourself the best chance of staying up..no logic at all Totally agree. There may be an argument that Adkins wants to move to a more fluid system with quicker, more mobile players but even if true there is no harm having Lambert on the bench to give us a different option when needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Very close to joining Blackburn. Breaking news on SSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Very close to joining Blackburn. Breaking news on SSN. Ah, they got there in the end then. They have been faffing around with Huddersfield all summer with rubbish bids. Should be £6m+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Very close to joining Blackburn. Breaking news on SSN. lier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Rhodes hugely overpriced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Didnt say he (Rhodes) was "close" simply said he had agreed personal terms but uddersfield have not accepted fee (they want 8m) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Didnt say he (Rhodes) was "close" simply said he had agreed personal terms but uddersfield have not accepted fee (they want 8m) ah, not rickie then... was about to GO MENTAL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleonothing Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Rhodes is a player I'd like to have seen us sign. Mrs OOO's brother is an Udders season ticket holder and really rates him. Though with promotion to the champ they'd keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I'm as big a fan of Rickie as any but I just wonder if he does have a future here. Our game seems to now revolve around movement and pace, or at least that's how Nige seems to want it to. something Rickie doesn't have in his locker, he has a lot of strengths but not these. I still think he has an lot to offer us but im wondering if he'll get many starts once Rodriguez, Mayakua and Ramirez have bedded in and Lee is fit. I can see him playing a deeper, link up type role between one or two out and out strikers. He may not be quick, but get the ball to him and it goes where he wants it to. Also having him there gives us the option to go route 1 if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Rhodes is a player I'd like to have seen us sign. Mrs OOO's brother is an Udders season ticket holder and really rates him. Though with promotion to the champ they'd keep him. Decent player but I would have Jay Rod over Rhodes. IMO Rhodes is a Sharp type player, good goals corer but not got the all round game or mobility for the top level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Rhodes is a player I'd like to have seen us sign. Mrs OOO's brother is an Udders season ticket holder and really rates him. Though with promotion to the champ they'd keep him. He'd have added nothing different to us to be honest. We've got Jay who is in the same bracket as him at the mo. (but a bit better IMO) And the new Mayuka fella adds rapid explosive pace, which he wouldn't have added. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Very close to joining Blackburn. Breaking news on SSN. Shat my pants there, then I saw "Jordan Rhodes". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericb Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 posted this in the wrong thread! To sell rickie this window would be madness, he's been our top scorer for since he joined and outscored both of our english signings last season (both of whom are untested in the prem). For all we know this new fella might take time to find his feet and Rickie has already shown he can score in this league. I'd expect it to be far more likely that he'll be given till christmas, that way he has time to prove himself in the prem so his cost rises and see if he fits in the team, i'm sure Nigel wouldn't take the risk to start without him in the squad now. It smacks of paper talk, or maybe Rickie's agent trying to show that if he's not a first choice he'll be happy to move, whatever it is i'd be very surprised if it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperMikey Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Oh come on, like we'll sell Rickie now. If he's not been up to par by the end of the season and we receive a few good offers from teams who aren't our direct rivals, we might consider it. He's been a key player for us in his career so far for us, and there's been nothing so far to suggest that'll change this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I'm as big a fan of Rickie as any but I just wonder if he does have a future here. Our game seems to now revolve around movement and pace, or at least that's how Nige seems to want it to. something Rickie doesn't have in his locker, he has a lot of strengths but not these. I still think he has an lot to offer us but im wondering if he'll get many starts once Rodriguez, Mayakua and Ramirez have bedded in and Lee is fit. The number grows by one. Give it 6 months and you'll all be on my side of the fence with this. Assuming we don't look like we'll need a proven Championship scorer by then... even West Brom kept Bednar for the yoyo seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Shat my pants there, then I saw "Jordan Rhodes". Ha ha! Sorry mate. Rhodes has got potential, but I said it before and I'll say it again (even with hind-sight) that Sharp for £2M was so much better value than Rhodes for £6M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Blackburn are paying £8m, plus £1.5m in bonuses for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Blackburn are paying £8m, plus £1.5m in bonuses for him. Holy sh*t!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 29 August, 2012 Author Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Dimitar Berbatov £4m Jordan Rhodes £8m :-o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Puts what we paid for Jay into context. A snip in comparison! Oh, and Ramirez @ 11.9m. Bloody over priced English players! Mental. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Blackburn are paying £8m, plus £1.5m in bonuses for him. "only" £4.5m up front, the rest depends on success / promotion etc. pretty good deal for Blackburn I would say, given his age and potential Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Jude Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 in which case Ricky at £4m is a snip... and when did a Championship club start paying nigh on 10M quid for a player... world's gone mad.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 I'm as big a fan of Rickie as any but I just wonder if he does have a future here. Our game seems to now revolve around movement and pace, or at least that's how Nige seems to want it to. something Rickie doesn't have in his locker, he has a lot of strengths but not these. I still think he has an lot to offer us but im wondering if he'll get many starts once Rodriguez, Mayakua and Ramirez have bedded in and Lee is fit. Its not just his goalscoring Turks, its his link-up play and knockdowns. I just can't see the club letting him go, and imho it would be utter insanity if we did. How long was he on the pitch against the champions before he scored his first prem goal? Cannot see this one happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Puts what we paid for Jay into context. A snip in comparison! Oh, and Ramirez @ 11.9m. Bloody over priced English players! Mental. Only slightly more than Jarvis. One cap and a decent player, or a bit more for one of the top talents in Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Much as I love Rickie, if we got decent cash 6m + and could sign a better player (e.g berbatov or of similar ilk), then why not. If we got 6mill and went out and signed someone not proven at the highest level then forget about it. Depends on what is available imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Its not just his goalscoring Turks, its his link-up play and knockdowns. I just can't see the club letting him go, and imho it would be utter insanity if we did. How long was he on the pitch against the champions before he scored his first prem goal? Cannot see this one happening. Yeah I get all that, I think Nige is going down the route of wanting quick mobile players who can rotate positions. As good as Rickie is and a legend, this is something he can't do. I don't think he'll go but I don't think he'll nessasairly be first name on the team sheet this season. In the past we've built a team around him and rightly so, we seem to be moving away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 29 August, 2012 Share Posted 29 August, 2012 Yeah I get all that, I think Nige is going down the route of wanting quick mobile players who can rotate positions. As good as Rickie is and a legend, this is something he can't do. I don't think he'll go but I don't think he'll nessasairly be first name on the team sheet this season. In the past we've built a team around him and rightly so, we seem to be moving away from that. Fair comment, but he's a game changer. Weren't newcastle and liverpool queuing up trying to nab him in the last couple of seasons? oh, btw, check your email about that muppet show thread you may or may not have a treat in store..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozzybear Posted 30 August, 2012 Share Posted 30 August, 2012 Blackburn spending big (ie their parachute finance) on a player like Rhodes shows they are ready to gamble on an instant return to the prem. Reminds me somewhat of saints in 2007, and we know what happened to us when the gamble backfired and the money was gone. Good luck Rovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Jeweller Posted 31 August, 2012 Share Posted 31 August, 2012 25mins left to make your mind up Rickie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Secret Site Agent Posted 31 August, 2012 Share Posted 31 August, 2012 25mins left to make your mind up Rickie 2 mins according to me and acurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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