doddisalegend Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Such mouthwatering fixtures?!? The fact is that until we start to becoming successful in our own right -something that won't happen overnight- our attendances will be hostage to who we're playing -and for your average daytripper, there are only 4-5 truly glamorous ties in this league. That is a spot on assement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 But we do play Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, Everton, Liverpool, Newcastle, Sunderland, West Ham, Aston Villa etc. All large clubs which will sell out St Mary's. Even fixtures vs Reading will probably sell out as they will fill the away end and Saints will sell 29,000 home tickets. So against Sunderland and Everton (not entirely sure how glamourous that one is as you claim we are bigger than Everton)....anyway...are we going to a) just about sell the 29k in the days leading up to the match day b) sell these tickets weeks in advance with tickets really hard to come by and massive demand because of the feel good factor and this is the greatest time ever to be a Saints fan and we've "maxed out" the stadium. Because lets remember people like me fully expect a) to happen. Fully expect. That happening won't start making you right so don't get any ideas of giving it the big one. It's b) that you've been banging on about all summer. How likely is that going to happen now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Who? Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Just seen it on the tv, very strange because when I bought my tickets there were not any for sale at the front of the chapel, only right near the back. Clearly on the tv there were plenty of empty seats at the front of the chapel. Oh yes and Fonte was fouled. We will be fine :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 The OP is spot on about ticket information though. Our final game of cricket got called off about 1:30 and having already given my season ticket to a mate, I thought about taking my dad. He thought it was sold out, couldn't really find anything easily on the terrible OS and thought that with first day glitches of the new cards the ticket office would be a nightmare, so gave it a miss and watched one of the few games of cricket that survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 It's not just a question of unsold seats, I noticed yesterday that plenty of corporate boxes were also empty. I expect Man Utd will be a sell out again as our manc mates besiege SFC fans with ticket requests, but you have to wonder at the clubs marketing and ticket pricing policy if this situation continues. Needless to say winning football games does also help to shift tickets ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 To put into context it was 2k up on our last 'first home game' in the Prem. http://www.11v11.com/matches/southampton-v-blackburn-rovers-21-august-2004-24929/ Agree with Um Pahars, the ticketing information and ability to collect in this modern age is gash. Has no one invented a system where you have a smartcard, that you get at the start of the year and you can simply buy a ticket and it get loaded on to your card? The club would get better utilisation, have less collections in ticket office and fans would be happier. Stuff it, I am off to file a patent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 To put into context it was 2k up on our last 'first home game' in the Prem. http://www.11v11.com/matches/southampton-v-blackburn-rovers-21-august-2004-24929/ This was back in the day when it was impossible to get tickets for home games though. People on here remember it so clearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 And we never had the ambition and investment we've got now. Or all these causal fans from all over England which will come here for premier league football. But only when we are established in the premier league, not playing unattractive opposition which isn't during the holidays or on bank holiday weekends or when it's raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilko Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 1. I tried to buy in the Northam, on Friday morning, but was told it was sold out and I could only get one in the Itchen. 2. The low attendance was clearly due to Wigan having very few fans. 3. The stewards in the Itchen block 1 and 2 are ****s. I won't be going back there. 4. We don't need to extend the ground until we're established in the Prem and sell out most weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 How does Wigan having few fans account for the large blocks of empty seats in the chapel, chapel/itchen corner, block 43 and behind me in block 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 I wonder how many people can't afford 2 games in a week & have therefore opted, understandably, for the Utd game?? B-i-L has done just that for him & his 2 lads & he will continue to do it through the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 The ticketing website is showing no available seats for the game. Surely it's not sold out? We would have heard about it if it was sold out by now. Is the ticket website just being predictably sh*t as usual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Sometimes you just make it too easy Turks - Usually you are the first to highlight everyone else as a bunch of 'mongs' on an internet 'mongboard' who all take it far toooo seriously - yet here you are 'worried' about it being seen as 'pathetic' and 'embarrasing' - which is it to be? Either its a 'mongboard', in which case how can anythinganything said on here be taken seriously enough to threaten you with embarassment, or IT IS taken serious enough to warrant it? Please make up your mind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Sometimes you just make it too easy Turks - Usually you are the first to highlight everyone else as a bunch of 'mongs' on an internet 'mongboard' who all take it far toooo seriously - yet here you are 'worried' about it being seen as 'pathetic' and 'embarrasing' - which is it to be? Either its a 'mongboard', in which case how can anythinganything said on here be taken seriously enough to threaten you with embarassment, or IT IS taken serious enough to warrant it? Please make up your mind... Pretty sure it is the opinion of the wider footballing community that he is talking about rather than the views of the 'mongs' on here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Pretty sure it is the opinion of the wider footballing community that he is talking about rather than the views of the 'mongs' on here... Does anyone believe the wider footballing community gives feck what we are talking about on here? and even if they do, its only teenagers who are 'embarrased' by a bunch of scrotes on a web forum... or it should be anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Does anyone believe the wider footballing community gives feck what we are talking about on here? and even if they do' date=' its only teenagers who are 'embarrased' by a bunch of scrotes on a web forum... or it should be anyway[/quote'] Thought you were talking about our failure to sell out and the dire atmosphere at the game rather than anything on here. Or have I misunderstood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Thought you were talking about our failure to sell out and the dire atmosphere at the game rather than anything on here. Or have I misunderstood? Was responding to this Gem by the Turkmeister - quote thing did not work before - on page 2 Talking about challenging Man City for the title is pathetic and embarassing when you are buying players from the championship and are out of your depth at home to Wigan. Talking about expand the stadium when on your glorious return to the premier league after 7 years over 10% of the stadium us empty despite Apparantly having the most ambitious and well funded chairman in our history, being the best time ever to be a Saints fan and being told you have a catchment area which covers most of England and are going to be welcoming thousands of new fans here to see Premeir league football ever week is pathetic and embaassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Why are you mongs wetting yourself because we didn't sell out against Wigan? It's Wigan FFS, there are more glamorous sides in League 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 I think someone was telling porkies about our attendance yesterday. I don't think there was as many there as the official attendance claims. The attendance was poor for several reasons that the club can't do anything about, rescission, holidays, unattractive opposition. But also poor for several reasons it can do something about. Poor ticketing system, poor communication/ promotion within local press (yes the club does need the Echo), and bad pricing policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 I think someone was telling porkies about our attendance yesterday. I don't think there was as many there as the official attendance claims. The attendance was poor for several reasons that the club can't do anything about, rescission, holidays, unattractive opposition. But also poor for several reasons it can do something about. Poor ticketing system, poor communication/ promotion within local press (yes the club does need the Echo), and bad pricing policy. Agree, the fact that so many corporate seats/boxes remain empty suggests that the club have still not got the commercial side right. Or maybe having high prices and some empty seats will still maximise revenue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 I think someone was telling porkies about our attendance yesterday. I don't think there was as many there as the official attendance claims. Unfortunately these days clubs are allowed to announce the official attendance based on number of tickets sold rather than turnstile clicks. I had a look through all the blocks on the online ticket system on Friday morning and there were around 15 tickets available in total in blocks 1-5, and every single one of them was an individual ticket, i.e. you couldn't get 2 seats together in blocks 1-5. Yet when it comes to the game, there are hundreds of empty seats, especially lower down in the stand. Either the online ticket system doesn't actually reflect reality (in which case the ticket office need to get their arses in gear), or hundreds of people with tickets (either season tickets or matchday ones) didn't turn up to the game, for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Unfortunately these days clubs are allowed to announce the official attendance based on number of tickets sold rather than turnstile clicks. I had a look through all the blocks on the online ticket system on Friday morning and there were around 15 tickets available in total in blocks 1-5, and every single one of them was an individual ticket, i.e. you couldn't get 2 seats together in blocks 1-5. Yet when it comes to the game, there are hundreds of empty seats, especially lower down in the stand. Either the online ticket system doesn't actually reflect reality (in which case the ticket office need to get their arses in gear), or hundreds of people with tickets (either season tickets or matchday ones) didn't turn up to the game, for whatever reason. If its this one it's an amazing coincidence that all the people that bought tickets but didn't bother were all sitting in the same place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Was responding to this Gem by the Turkmeister - quote thing did not work before - on page 2 I was of our course referring toour glorious leader talking about European football and stadium expansions which some mongs lap up, yet actions don't seem to back up all these big talk do they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 What was more telling was the empty boxes etc. The club have seriously overpriced everything corporate. Do the ex saints and crouch still have box, could not see from the chapel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 We will sell out most games this season less any away fans being under allocation. The first home game is always low it attendance - and always results in posts debating the point like this. Key factors in this are: - school holidays, people away - doubled up because it is a bank holiday - and add a few more for Reading festival - ditto corporates are affected too, no one does jolies on a bank holiday. No crisis, just a question of timing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 If its this one it's an amazing coincidence that all the people that bought tickets but didn't bother were all sitting in the same place. Agreed, although we've no way of knowing whether local Man United fans bought blocks of tickets among a group of friends in those areas on the twinned ticket. It seems as if anything's possible with our ticket office and online system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 ... I know there are several companies that buy STs in the normal stands as corporate freebies and giveaways etc - where I used to sit in te Itchen the 8 seets in the row behind where like this... not sure hiow this would work now with the smart card - but seems like there is something a bit odd with the ticketing process. Re Granty's point on the clubs quoting the tickets sold v actual turn up - They must have an official turnstile number somewhere, would have thought this was a requirement for fire/health and safety so would be interesting to know what it is... ... maybe an odd thought, but the whole red strip thing did sort of blend into the seats especially when watching on teh fuzzy online stream - made it look really empty in some places - contrast against those in stripey tops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasoneuelllfanclub Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 the club need to employ a decent marketing team which will help for starters. club are far to secretive when it comes to tickets sold. surely if sales are low they need there PR machine to entice fans including making it widely known tickets are available on the day by using not just the OS. the new website is absolute dog ****e, most people like to access the website via their phone which is cumbersome at the moment due to their being no mobile version so that doesnt help fans keep up to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 I was of our course referring toour glorious leader talking about European football and stadium expansions which some mongs lap up, yet actions don't seem to back up all these big talk do they. Delivered on everything else he has suggested Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 I was of our course referring toour glorious leader talking about European football and stadium expansions which some mongs lap up, yet actions don't seem to back up all these big talk do they. We; I think you need to be better able to differentiate between active planning and aspirational goals.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Delivered on everything else he has suggested It's one thing to take a club like Saints out of league one and the championship. Quite a other for us to finish above Livepool and Arsenal In the league. Would you not agree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 It's one thing to take a club like Saints out of league one and the championship. Quite a other for us to finish above Livepool and Arsenal In the league. Would you not agree? Rome was not built in a day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 I think most will agree that Turkish's comments can be ignored and taken as rude do to the disrespectful levels of sarcasm used. It would be hard to sell out the game in the first instance when large blocks of each stand were unavailable to sell. Huge chunks of Itchen Were barren. Same again in kingsland. Add to that the poor Wigan attendance, the late returns of their tickets and it being the last bank holiday of school holiday and I am not surprised tbh. Considering that the home capacity is roughly 29600 seats the attendance was not bad. And there were more empty seat blocks listed for sale than Wigan fans. Only a mong would base our future attendance on that match with the apparent rudeness of the usual few on here. This is not aime at all of the negative posters because most of you put well worded polite arguments acros,. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 (edited) I think most will agree that Turkish's comments can be ignored and taken as rude do to the disrespectful levels of sarcasm used. It would be hard to sell out the game in the first instance when large blocks of each stand were unavailable to sell. Huge chunks of Itchen Were barren. Same again in kingsland. Add to that the poor Wigan attendance, the late returns of their tickets and it being the last bank holiday of school holiday and I am not surprised tbh. Considering that the home capacity is roughly 29600 seats the attendance was not bad. And there were more empty seat blocks listed for sale than Wigan fans. Only a mong would base our future attendance on that match with the apparent rudeness of the usual few on here. This is not aime at all of the negative posters because most of you put well worded polite arguments acros,. Where have i been rude or disrespectful? Just because you don't like a post it doesn't mean it's untrue. I respect your right to a view, but in the main you talk a lot of boll*cks, Edited 27 August, 2012 by Turkish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 The ticket prices are too high for one thing. And it's not as easy to buy matchday tickets as it shoul be for another. And people are forgetting it was Wigan - Probably the smallest draw in the Premier League for opposition fans and a club with probably the smallest away support. They brought less than 1000 fans and returned a load of tickets. It was the bank holiday weekend and a lot of people were away for the weekend or are still away oh holiday - including season ticket holders - it happens every season. Added to that some people would have bought tickets for Man Utd and Wigan but not bothered with the Wigan game for a number of reasons - they are on holiday, it was Wigan - something like that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 27 August, 2012 Share Posted 27 August, 2012 Do the ex saints and crouch still have box' date=' could not see from the chapel[/quote'] The ex-Saints don't have their box any more. It was previously provided to them at a reduced rate but this was then scrapped by the current regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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