Baj Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 here please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 "Welcome to the Premier League" *I expect we'll see a few Skates on here this evening... not that they've got anything to laugh about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Looked very poor second half! No plan B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yate Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Oh dear. Didn't seem to get going!! Plenty more games left yet though.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Adkins out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 This is how I remember the Premiership. No doubt we'll beat Man U next Saturday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Any illusions people had about us doing "ok" this season can now be quashed. It's going to be a long hard few months. We are very unlikely to get anything against Man Utd or Arsenal. Season starts at game 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Poor display, expect a few incomings this week in regards to personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brightspark Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Good enough first half display, but Wigan came out in the 2nd half and Martinez proved how good he was as a manager. Played to our weaknesses. We were far too slow on the ball, and didn't have much creativity in the team. Lallana was outstanding today however! Hopefully we can pull off a shock next week, but I have a feeling we will be coming from a long way behind.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiansaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Let's hope the leanring curve is not too steep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 2nd to everything today,sloppy passes,caught in possesion,no pace in the team,Wigan are a bottom half team,but they have made us look below average today,we should be looking to get a draw at the very least against Wigan at home. I am always optimistic but I took no positives out of that today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Simply not good enough. One paced and lacking in invention, we didn't have enough in the locker to break them down and got punished at the other end. Massive wake up call that the squad isn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Well what a ****e result - but fair play to Wigan - they scored - we didn´t even if we had better chanses... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Too slow, too pedestrian. Players looked lost. Crowd was flat, no passion whatsoever. Why spend money all that money on Rodriguez and then shove him out of position on the left wing where he is totally ineffectual? Why have weyet to sign a centre back when its been glaringly obvious to all but the deluded few that we need one? Boys against Men today and it's going to be a long hard season unless we can sign 5 or 6 quality players in the next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Hate to say it but Martinez won the tactical duel, knew exactly how to stop us doing anything and made sure our best passer in the midfield couldn't do anything. Still early in the season, but we need more quality at the back and pace and quality out wide and we also need to wise up to the fact we aren't playing **** FL teams who kick and rush for 90 mins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joneth Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Not good at all. Never really looked a threat, always looked a man light in defense. They passed us off the park second half. Hate to start the Guly-bashing so early but did he not lose the ball every time he had it today? Still don't see what he offers us apart from slowing down play long enough for our midfielders to get forward leaving us woefully exposed when he inevitably gets caught in possession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Wigan were very good against Chelsea and had lots of chances. In this game we were undone by the fact we don't move the ball quick enough, we let defences get set. The only players coming out of this game with credit are Lallana, Morgan and Clyne. Our set pieces should be much better. We need a CB (we already knew that) Jay Rod needs more time and Billy Sharp should start ahead of him. I don't like to slate Guly but he looked very average today. We need to get in behind teams, we need a winger desperately. Defensivily we're being undone by quick passing. The second goal shouldn't have counted. We will get better as the season goes on. What we don't need is knee-jerk reactions, this was always going to be a banana skin. Just a game we earmarked ourselves as winning but Wigan deserved all 3 points and we need to be able to learn from the way they played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney Fudpucker the 3rd Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 This is what happens when you don't prepare for life in the premiership & only sign average players like, clyne, j-rod and Davies. We lack any REAL quality. A proven premiership goal scorer would be a start & 2 CB's and a midfielder with experience at this level. I'm not convinced that Lambert, J-Rod, Sharpe or Lee are good enough for the prem. if we can't beat Wigan then what hope is there for the next 4 games? Man Utd, Arsenal, Villa & Everton. We're gonna be a laughing stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 NOt a lot to say - poor second half after looking v comfortable in teh first, just not ebnough in final third - we can bang on all we like about formations, but we lost our way 2nd half and bit dissappointing teh heads went down a bit/sluggish etc after going 0-1 down. We created a few chances and on anothjer some those go your way, but defensively still a little suspect and struggled to break down a well organised wigan. It may have been a more defensive side in Wigan than in City last week, but we still seemed to have lost that spark that saw us break swiftly and decisively last week - in numbers... oh well lets get to the Emirates and take the first points there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.comsaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 9 shots on target to their 8 5 shots off target to their 4 10 corners to their 4 We hit the bar twice. Not the best day at the office - but you have to finish your chances in this division. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Dissapointing, of course. We started best, and it was a quite even match which could have gone both ways. I think we looked well organized in defense, but we really struggled to break wigan down at times, which is worrying. Fonte at fault for both goals in my opinion, all tough he has to share the blame with Jos for the first goal. Hopefully we'll see some new blood coming in this week. COYR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett24 Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 We will be ok, long old season. Couple of signings in and things will look rosie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Lol at all those that said we would beat Wigan,they are seasoned survivors who contrary to popular belief are well organised.....us on the other hand are Ill prepared for the fight at the moment and we look very disjointed and uncomfortable. A very stark contrast to the man city game. We need to learn quick or we will be left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redkeith Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Don't often agree with Birtles, but we needed to move the ball a lot quicker. Definate foul for the 2nd, but he still took too long on the ball. I think there will be a few new faces in this week, as today we looked a bit like Swansea without their wingers. We did hit the post twice though, so it could all have been very different. Nigel needs to show them a video of that Channon goal against Liverpool. One touch training all week for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTONS EAST SIDE Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Poor second half. No idea, no energy, no clue and no new signings!! Oh dear !! but only 2 games in so hope yet!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintsmike25 Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 We can beat other teams and raise our game. You forget we were 2-1 up against Man City. It was a poor poor performance. We can play ALOT better, Adkins knows what the problem is, pace. That will be sorted by the end of the transfer window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 One week and counting before the window closes - needs to get some quality players in and some players to leave. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 The problem isn't that the formation is a flawed one, it's that NA is playing it while lacking players who fit into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Typical saints from bygone years, cannot seem to raise their game against so called less atractive opposition. Dig deep NC! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese on Toast Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 This is what happens when you don't prepare for life in the premiership & only sign average players like, clyne, j-rod and Davies. We lack any REAL quality. A proven premiership goal scorer would be a start & 2 CB's and a midfielder with experience at this level. I'm not convinced that Lambert, J-Rod, Sharpe or Lee are good enough for the prem. if we can't beat Wigan then what hope is there for the next 4 games? Man Utd, Arsenal, Villa & Everton. We're gonna be a laughing stock. I hope this is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belgiansaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Forget the top 6 teams, but if you don't beat the Wigans and like, you might struggle. Now, the season is young and there's no obvious reason to press the panic button, but you have to adapt very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaSaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 That angled ball past Fonte and Jos has accounted for two goals and a penalty. Sharp should have replaced Rodriguez fifteen minutes earlier. Our inability to play an early ball - not a hoof - is killing us. We always - ALWAYS - have someone up our arses when we receive the ball. Nigel looked a bit paralysed with indecision to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjphilsaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Not the best way to put the club in the shopping window is it? Imagine what Ollie @Bpool must be whispering into Ince/Phillips' ears tonight! Also IF Ramierez is on his way.. I should imagine that any advantage that NC had with bargaining will be evaporating by the second as we are creating an image of desperation.... "5 or 6 players needed"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 We're gonna be a laughing stock. Ha ha ha - laughing at you already with ridiculous shiete like that. We were incontrol 1st half, not greta but better chnaces and - 2nd we got found out - we learn from it and move on - cant believe anyone cares what others think of us.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 No need to despair : 14 Tottenham 2 -1 1 15 Reading 2 -2 1 16 Norwich 2 -5 1 17 QPR 2 -5 1 18 Southampton 2 -3 0 19 Aston Villa 2 -3 0 20 Liverpool 1 -3 0 Last year after 13 games Wigan had 6 points and yet stayed up. We need to learn fast, certainly faster than our build up play today, and not linger so long on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milton_saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Agree with all the comments so far. Thought we might have been good enough for a draw. The second goal was clearly a foul by Kone before his free run on goal. And Fonte should have converted his effort. Agree that Lallana was immense. Just so worried if he gets injured. Can anyone understand why the crowd was 29,604 when it looked like there were far more empty seats.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 That game really demonstrated our lack of flair and creative players coincided with our inability to play at different speeds. Lallana played well but you cant beat a PL team on your own. Chances like the one Fonte missed at 0-2 are unforgivable at this level and we were punished for not taking our chances today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggface Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 This is a ****ing terrible result, wigan are no pushovers but we needed one point bare minimum on the board today with 2 tough games coming up. Why totally ditch formation which has served us so well. We could be rooted in a couple of games. Character and lots of signings required this week or we are going to be in a very very tough position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Fan Dan Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Anybody know the attendance? The Beeb seem to be all about "sparseley-filled St Mary's". Maybe it's that massive vendetta they have against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingsbridge Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 West Ham looked ****ing terrible whereas we just looked flat. Long way to go yet and I trust the team at Saints to get it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Only watched the stream, but we looked ponderous throughout. Decision-making was slow, so never really got anything together in the final third. Limited to a single long range effort in the first half, and scraps in the second. Thought Rodriguez looked poor in possession and pretty useless out left. Guly had a dire second half and I was amazed that he was kept on. At present that's our best 11, and I don't actually think you can really say that we played beneath ourselves or Wigan played above themselves - last week we could've been hammered, but rode our luck and got quite a lot of praise for being plucky despite losing. In retrospect, it now feels a bit patronising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Not trying to be to negative - but if Adkins says after this game that hes positive and everything is soooo good - then I´m worried. Some positive stuff to take from today offcourse but - we lost at HOME to Wigan - and thats not OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 ah tits... another 2 defeats on the cards too.......going to be hard to get going watched the game on the web...looked good in most parts...just lacked that killer ball and a touch of pace up top. if we don't address this, withe a CB then a long season ahead.... I'm sure we will address it though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Yes I also looked up last years table. QPR stayed up despite losing 21 games Norwich (who I'd like to think we can model) lost 15 (W12 D11) No need to despair : Last year after 13 games Wigan had 6 points and yet stayed up. We need to learn fast, certainly faster than our build up play today, and not linger so long on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokky_saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 First half we were matching them, second half we played sloppy, so many missed passes, Fonte thinking he's got days on the ball being last man back. Lallana shone through as ever but fair play to Wigan, very disciplined and too witty for us at times. Don't think it warrants a cause for panic though, the boys are still getting used to the ropes and perhaps start Punch and Guly on the flanks around Lambert, a sturdy CB wouldn't go amiss either but even if we get one in before Arsenal and Man U doubt Nige would play him as he wont settle in that quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornhill_saints Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Just back, What a crock of ****! We need a player with pace (yes we have Tad but he is injured) Fox needs to do one. Guly was shocking - lazy! - no closing down No closing down at all, we were on top for 20 mins but thats it... hit the bar twice left at 87 mins said to the daughter we have no chance, bang 2 - 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 What we don't need is the bed wetters to start their hysterical posts ! We only lost by 2 goals against a Premier side that is used to taking points off relegation rivals. They did a good job on one of the League's new boys. We may get relegated, we may not. We have had time to prepare for the new season we have made a few signings and I think the squad that we have now is more or less it. If we go down it is not the end of the world as we get the Premier parachute and can rebuild next year. FWIW, I see no point in breaking the bank or depleting our financial resources. Enjoy the Premier League, take each game one at a time and who cares about the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 If we still play like that after the window has shut and Adkins has brought in more players I'll be worried. But I would hope that once a few players come in 3 or 4 of those that lined up today will spend the rest of the season as squad players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thornhill_saints Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 First half we were matching them, second half we played sloppy, so many missed passes, Fonte thinking he's got days on the ball being last man back. Lallana shone through as ever but fair play to Wigan, very disciplined and too witty for us at times. Don't think it warrants a cause for panic though, the boys are still getting used to the ropes and perhaps start Punch and Guly on the flanks around Lambert, a sturdy CB wouldn't go amiss either but even if we get one in before Arsenal and Man U doubt Nige would play him as he wont settle in that quick. Shone through, his corners were ****, he should not be taking corners, he is shocking at them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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