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So Man Utd hVe just signed Buttner and we were obviously so close to getting him!

 

Do you feel annoyed, upset, gutted and losing a potential top prospect? Or just relieved he's finally gone somewhere at least!!?

 

Thoughts...

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Just looking at an article on the bcc about it. It's one of those ones you can leave comments about the article. Man U fans seem rather underwhelmed a few people (ITK allegedly) saying Buttner is pretty average..... So I'm now thinking we had a lucky escape;)

 

I posted this on another thread, as I didn't see this one.

 

The Dutch talksport football bloke was on H & J this afternoon. He was asked about Buttner, "is he a good player for Man Utd" the reply was "Ummmmmmmmmmmm, I dont want to run the guy down"

 

Then went on to say "his "dream" move was Southampton, everybody here is surprised he ended up and Manchester". Guy was then asked "why did the Southampton deal fall through", replied "there were too many fingers in the pie, and they walked away. FIFA are all over international transfers and Vitesse Arnhem have been warned before" Dont know what this meant or what was implied, but defo said it fell through because we walked away.

 

Then said that he has been told he will have to play in the res for a year, while Utd work on his game, but he heard that from his father as the Man Utd machine had clicked into gear and he was not allowed to say anything, until he's unvieled. Which he thought would be Fri. Then said "you can normally tell which Dutch players will do well in England". One of H & J then said "well we can make out what you think of him".

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I posted this on another thread, as I didn't see this one.

 

The Dutch talksport football bloke was on H & J this afternoon. He was asked about Buttner, "is he a good player for Man Utd" the reply was "Ummmmmmmmmmmm, I dont want to run the guy down"

 

Then went on to say "his "dream" move was Southampton, everybody here is surprised he ended up and Manchester". Guy was then asked "why did the Southampton deal fall through", replied "there were too many fingers in the pie, and they walked away. FIFA are all over international transfers and Vitesse Arnhem have been warned before" Dont know what this meant or what was implied, but defo said it fell through because we walked away.

 

Then said that he has been told he will have to play in the res for a year, while Utd work on his game, but he heard that from his father as the Man Utd machine had clicked into gear and he was not allowed to say anything, until he's unvieled. Which he thought would be Fri. Then said "you can normally tell which Dutch players will do well in England". One of H & J then said "well we can make out what you think of him".

 

Ha Man U signing our rejects.....

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I posted this on another thread, as I didn't see this one.

 

The Dutch talksport football bloke was on H & J this afternoon. He was asked about Buttner, "is he a good player for Man Utd" the reply was "Ummmmmmmmmmmm, I dont want to run the guy down"

 

Then went on to say "his "dream" move was Southampton, everybody here is surprised he ended up and Manchester". Guy was then asked "why did the Southampton deal fall through", replied "there were too many fingers in the pie, and they walked away. FIFA are all over international transfers and Vitesse Arnhem have been warned before" Dont know what this meant or what was implied, but defo said it fell through because we walked away.

 

Then said that he has been told he will have to play in the res for a year, while Utd work on his game, but he heard that from his father as the Man Utd machine had clicked into gear and he was not allowed to say anything, until he's unvieled. Which he thought would be Fri. Then said "you can normally tell which Dutch players will do well in England". One of H & J then said "well we can make out what you think of him".

 

This is pretty similar to the comments of the PSV fans that were on here. Buttner might turn out to be a top PL player in 3 years but it sounds like he isn't one for the present, which is what Saints need so not disappointed there. I won't be too upset if the Ramirez one falls through either, it'd be a very exciting luxury signing but I'd be more comfortable about building on Sunday's display if we got Phillips, Curtis Davies and Scott Dann signed in the next 48 hours. Surely that's the priority?

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I think Saints interest in Buttner didn't go down well with Shaw's representatives. When all the stories about Shaw going elsewhere came out, Saints decided to have a rethink and based on Shaws strong preseason, came to an agreement with Shaws people and cooled their interest in Buttner. Buttner was left in limbo, Man United needed someone solid as cover for Evra, but also see Buttner as a bargaining chip for Shaw at some point in the future.

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Well if it means we can keep Shaw and bring him through quicker then I think we will be fine.

Worst case scenario we have to give Dickson a squad number ....if we can.

 

We can give him a squad number, that doesn't really mean anything. We might not be able to name him in our 23 man squad though. And I say 23 man squad because you have to name 3 goalkeepers as part of the 25, and as we have 2 under 21 GKs we can only name at most 23 over-21s in our squad.

 

"Clubs cannot name more than 17 non home grown players aged over 21" will not be a problem for us, but as I can't be bothered to work through checking how many are U21s and how many are home grown, I'm not going to be able to give you an answer on whether our 3rd choice LB will make the squad. However, as he's been playing with the Dev Squad and doesn't currently have a squad number, and 2 of the other 3 senior pros in that situation are now out on loan, that would tell its own story.

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We can give him a squad number, that doesn't really mean anything. We might not be able to name him in our 23 man squad though.

And I say 23 man squad because you have to name 3 goalkeepers as part of the 25, and as we have 2 under 21 GKs

 

 

I think that might even be two U18 keepers btw... The 9.

I don't think either of them is past 19.?

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