alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Does NA saying we're searching for CBs count as a rumour bout our CB search? Nope, not imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I thought this was the summer transfers thread, not the Reading match thread. Stop with the updates people, no body cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 You troll ? Someone bites ? You try and get someone banned ? Yes, I am trolling when I express exasperation about our transfer activity, arent I ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I think if you polled most people on here they'd say we need one or two CBs. They'd also say that they'd have liked them signed in time for pre-season. As you say from what NA said he wanted the same. Now comes the part where I and others have a problem with Alpine and other posters with the same melodramatic style. Do you trust those that are in charge of the club? If not why not? Alright they may have ****ed one or two people off but in the grand scheme of things they've financed and steered us to two consecutive promotions, bought us the most prolific lower league striker, tied our best young players to long contracts, broken our transfer record already this summer, pumped more money into the academy and training complex. Now call me happy clappy all you want, but I feel that deserves a level of trust and respect. As a result I'll happily wait until the end of the window and see where that takes us. If then, and only then, we are still short in key areas, I will be disappointed. But still this won't be proof that we haven't attempted to bring the right recruits in. Be concerned maybe but don't be a pillock. Of course, I'm willing to wait until the end of the window to judge the sum total of our signings. I expect us to bring in at least a winger and a CB in that time. I don't think we'll get more in that time, if we do I'm happy to hold my hands up. Do I trust the club? Of course, I've never for once stated that they are not active in trying to bring in targets. There's a few issues I have with some of our reported transfer dealings but that's by the by; in general our management and transfer committe have got far more right than they have wrong. I just recognise that the Hooiveld transfer was a real gamble last season, and we may have to pull of the same again this season. Some gambles pay off, some don't, and the longer it is we don't sign a CB the more that risk factor goes up IMO. And also having heard the manager identify 4 or 5 positions for strengthening that haven't been addressed (that's nearly half a team) I'm obviously concerned where that leaves us if we don't fulfill our targets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Fair enough, but there are some of us who are more concerned than others. We've had several months of failed efforts to cover these positions, it seems a bit conceited to assume its suddenly going to click now. I repeat, where are the rumours about our CB search. Think its a bit rich to call us "melodramatic" just because we are more concerned than you. I'm sorry mate, as I said be concerned, voice your concerns, just do it in a balanced manner rather than resorting to histrionics almost everytime*. You really seem to be oblivious to how much of a cartoon character you seem to some of us. When I read your posts the voice my mind uses is that of Eeyore from Winnie-the-Poo for Christ's sake! *Kraken manages it ocassionally! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Of course, I'm willing to wait until the end of the window to judge the sum total of our signings. I expect us to bring in at least a winger and a CB in that time. I don't think we'll get more in that time, if we do I'm happy to hold my hands up. Do I trust the club? Of course, I've never for once stated that they are not active in trying to bring in targets. There's a few issues I have with some of our reported transfer dealings but that's by the by; in general our management and transfer committe have got far more right than they have wrong. I just recognise that the Hooiveld transfer was a real gamble last season, and we may have to pull of the same again this season. Some gambles pay off, some don't, and the longer it is we don't sign a CB the more that risk factor goes up IMO. And also having heard the manager identify 4 or 5 positions for strengthening that haven't been addressed (that's nearly half a team) I'm obviously concerned where that leaves us if we don't fulfill our targets. There is a bigger issue that concerns me. I am wondering if the Ramirez screw-up has cost us the chance of getting our CB reinforcement, by virtue of pricing us out of the market. There are clubs out there who own our targets who know we have 12m and 60-70K a week to part with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I'm sorry mate, as I said be concerned, voice your concerns, just do it in a balanced manner rather than resorting to histrionics almost everytime*. You really seem to be oblivious to how much of a cartoon character you seem to some of us. When I read your posts the voice my mind uses is that of Eeyore from Winnie-the-Poo for Christ's sake! *Kraken manages it ocassionally! Sorry, I cant help people who cannot see past the name of the poster to see if there is any value in the posts content... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Yes, I am trolling when I express exasperation about our transfer activity, arent I ? Not just the lack of transfer activity but general timing of all your excessively negative posts. Yeah, I do think its trolling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Has Cortese done an amazing job at the club? Absolutely, no doubt in hell. Do I trust him? Not for a second. These things can be mutually exclusive. I trust him to try do what's right for our club. Whether I trust him to make the right decision everytime is another matter but I'll give the guy the benefit of the doubt until he proves otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Not just the lack of transfer activity but general timing of all your excessively negative posts. Yeah, I do think its trolling Your problem, not mine. I am pretty certain there are some posters on here who look for my posts when something negative has happened to blow off against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Sorry, I cant help people who cannot see past the name of the poster to see if there is any value in the posts content... Is that aimed at me or others? Do you ever re-read your own posts? If you do and can't see a problem you're a lost cause. I'll admit, several times I've been riled about a match or something and I've started a ranting or moaning post. However I tend to read my posts as I'm writing them and usually can see what a **** I'm being before I hit the post button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I started to select posts to delete and realised there would be nothing left. So I am going to leave as a memorial to what a bunch of dullards you are and bringing down the forum. And before you start bleating he / said she said, I along with 95% of the forum, don't give a ****. So STFU and get back on topic - pretty please with sugar on top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I started to select posts to delete and realised there would be nothing left. So I am going to leave as a memorial to what a bunch of dullards you are and bringing down the forum. And before you start bleating he / said she said, I along with 95% of the forum, don't give a ****. So STFU and get back on topic - pretty please with sugar on top. A straight talking mod - yes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Your problem, not mine. I am pretty certain there are some posters on here who look for my posts when something negative has happened to blow off against. And that my friend is causeality You put yourself in that position, so again the problem is yours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Is that aimed at me or others? Do you ever re-read your own posts? If you do and can't see a problem you're a lost cause. I'll admit, several times I've been riled about a match or something and I've started a ranting or moaning post. However I tend to read my posts as I'm writing them and usually can see what a **** I'm being before I hit the post button. The point is, as we all know, Alpine is negative. He knows it, we know it. However, it does not mean that his opinion is not as valid as the rest of ours, and those who decide his opinion is not worth listening to are effectively wanting to censor. He's not a wum, he's been too consistent on these boards for too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I started to select posts to delete and realised there would be nothing left. So I am going to leave as a memorial to what a bunch of dullards you are and bringing down the forum. And before you start bleating he / said she said, I along with 95% of the forum, don't give a ****. So STFU and get back on topic - pretty please with sugar on top. Me likely that response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints-til-i-die Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Without Cortese we may not have a club. We likely wouldn't have a successful club. I for one would rather have a club and enjoyed the last 2 years. Even if we get relegated because we don't sign a CB, I'd rather that than SISU, liquidation etc. I won't be complaining about Cortese for a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I started to select posts to delete and realised there would be nothing left. So I am going to leave as a memorial to what a bunch of dullards you are and bringing down the forum. And before you start bleating he / said she said, I along with 95% of the forum, don't give a ****. So STFU and get back on topic - pretty please with sugar on top. I'll be honest, since I've become a registered user rather than full member it's become a lot easier to ignore WUMS, trolls and not get involved in arguments - only got 3 posts so what's the point? Reckon a 3 post limit would probably help many people..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 The point is, as we all know, Alpine is negative. He knows it, we know it. However, it does not mean that his opinion is not as valid as the rest of ours, and those who decide his opinion is not worth listening to are effectively wanting to censor. He's not a wum, he's been too consistent on these boards for too long. I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I've posted comments before which have stated that unfortunately the good points he makes are often swamped in all the crap that he fleshes it out with. Yes, I know we can ignore those who annoy us but then we just see stuff in quotes. I'm a pretty easy going chap on the whole but it gets my goat. It's alright to have mods on here telling us all to shut up but really? The problem is that people who drag the forum down consistently go without moderation or warnings. Maybe it's the fact that it's hard to ban someone that's paid a fiver for the privilege of posting but IMHO this sort of rubbish will only stop if someone is more proactive in policing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I've posted comments before which have stated that unfortunately the good points he makes are often swamped in all the crap that he fleshes it out with. Yes, I know we can ignore those who annoy us but then we just see stuff in quotes. I'm a pretty easy going chap on the whole but it gets my goat. It's alright to have mods on here telling us all to shut up but really? The problem is that people who drag the forum down consistently go without moderation or warnings. Maybe it's the fact that it's hard to ban someone that's paid a fiver for the privilege of posting but IMHO this sort of rubbish will only stop if someone is more proactive in policing it. This is what I dont get, mulletsaint. Why is posting a different opinion, one that is provocative to the discussion, viewed as "dragging the forum down" ? My theory, and I've never expressed this before due to fear as being labelled as arrogant, is that the reason my posts are often infuriating is that they arent simply full of crap. Otherwise I would have a similar reputation to Dalek. Because my posts have some valid points that ring true to many, along with what is described as my "melodramatic" posting style and a general perception of negativity, they are unfortunately very good at getting under the skin. I swear that this is not my intention. Anyway, we've been ordered to get back on topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Justmike is the real victim in all of this. This has got to be the worst start to a mod career this forum has ever seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I've posted comments before which have stated that unfortunately the good points he makes are often swamped in all the crap that he fleshes it out with. Yes, I know we can ignore those who annoy us but then we just see stuff in quotes. I'm a pretty easy going chap on the whole but it gets my goat. It's alright to have mods on here telling us all to shut up but really? The problem is that people who drag the forum down consistently go without moderation or warnings. Maybe it's the fact that it's hard to ban someone that's paid a fiver for the privilege of posting but IMHO this sort of rubbish will only stop if someone is more proactive in policing it. It's very difficult to police anything that is not quantifiable and is mostly opinion, like trolling. If they constantly insulted others then it would be easier. It's not something that can really be effectively moderated imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I'm not completely disagreeing with you, I've posted comments before which have stated that unfortunately the good points he makes are often swamped in all the crap that he fleshes it out with. Yes, I know we can ignore those who annoy us but then we just see stuff in quotes. I'm a pretty easy going chap on the whole but it gets my goat. It's alright to have mods on here telling us all to shut up but really? The problem is that people who drag the forum down consistently go without moderation or warnings. Maybe it's the fact that it's hard to ban someone that's paid a fiver for the privilege of posting but IMHO this sort of rubbish will only stop if someone is more proactive in policing it. We ban plenty of people who pay a fiver. Debating peoples views is one thing, but debating peoples motivations is completely another. Site owners and Mods don't make a forum, it is the quality and quantity of posters. So if everyone put themselves 'at cause' it would be a much better experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Justmike is the real victim in all of this. This has got to be the worst start to a mod career this forum has ever seen. Skintsaint is the real villain in the piece, very conspicuous by his absence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Geoff, I have plenty of what I perceive "idiots" on ignore. Occasionally they are quoted and I can see they are still idiots. It works for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 This is what I dont get, mulletsaint. Why is posting a different opinion, one that is provocative to the discussion, viewed as "dragging the forum down" ? My theory, and I've never expressed this before due to fear as being labelled as arrogant, is that the reason my posts are often infuriating is that they arent simply full of crap. Otherwise I would have a similar reputation to Dalek. Because my posts have some valid points that ring true to many, along with what is described as my "melodramatic" posting style and a general perception of negativity, they are unfortunately very good at getting under the skin. I swear that this is not my intention. Anyway, we've been ordered to get back on topic... If you read my earlier posts you should find it easy enough to understand. There are others on here that can get across similar concerns without relying on melodrama, it's not even just the almost constant negativity. Like I said, if you don't believe you are ever melodramatic then you either do not self moderate or just don't care. You also have a habit of name calling without anyone having started it yet you consistently maintain that you rarely start it. Maybe you get in so many of these bleedin arguments that you forget which threads people have started giving you abuse on and just end up doing it everywhere without thinking. Anyway as you said, back on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigthesaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Getting back the the thread, someone is saying on twitter that they have been told that we have agreed a fee of 5.2m for Evertons Johnny Heitinga???? CHDAJFU?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 (edited) Getting back the the thread, someone is saying on twitter that they have been told that we have agreed a fee of 5.2m for Evertons Johnny Heitinga???? CHDAJFU?? He could do a very good job for us, who is it on twitter that posted it up? edit: found it, from a twiiter user named Swanie_888, what a familiar sounding name. Edited 22 August, 2012 by MOSaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Is he the one what was playin for holland in the Euros? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 If it's the tweet I've found, just a random fan by the looks of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigthesaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Some lad by the name of Karl Swanborough, no apparent links to the press etc but is claiming fee has been agreed and we are currently in talks??? says that Heitinga is in the last year of his contract. Nothing concrete to back it up but certainly not one that has been mentioned before I believe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 If you ever read the old bbc 606 board, you'd take anything written by a guy named Swanie with more than a pinch of salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Seeing as we're all trying to get this back on track and the name keeps getting ignored on the Ramirez thread how about El Kaddouri? Two separate Italian sources mentioned on the Ramirez thread have now quoted this name. I know he's been linked with Liverpool, Juve and Arsenal, before anyone decides to point this out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Was it Rocket Swannie on 606? Or am I just imagining that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Some lad by the name of Karl Swanborough, no apparent links to the press etc but is claiming fee has been agreed and we are currently in talks??? says that Heitinga is in the last year of his contract. Nothing concrete to back it up but certainly not one that has been mentioned before I believe? He didn't play for them Monday either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 He could do a very good job for us, who is it on twitter that posted it up? edit: found it, from a twiiter user named Swanie_888, what a familiar sounding name. Thought he'd tended to be a bit of a mistake waiting to happen whenever he's played for Everton. Good record prior tho I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Surprisingly only 5 foot 11. Very short for a CB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 He didn't play for them Monday either He was on the bench. Came on for Fellaini towards the end, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 You want to believe this 20year old lad? http://www.myspace.com/swannybee/photos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirleysfc Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 You want to believe this 20year old lad? http://www.myspace.com/swannybee/photos Yeah, why not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Wasn't JH their player of the season last year?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonnyboy Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Dullard is a great word. Seen it twice on this thread. Is he a CB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigthesaint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 It seems that Fenerbahce were sniffing around him for 5m in July according to the one and only "Alan Nixon"?? and now my "friend" Karl has responded to my question of where he heard of this and he "claims" from a Everton fanzone writer that both us and Fenerbahce have had offers accepted and now it's down to the player BUT if this "friend" of mine is the original Rocket Swanie or whatever his name is then it probably carries very little substance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theyin Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Another day passes without any news. I tell ya, updating the forum is getting as interminable as checking fb to see what inane drivel comes up on there. Two weeks in to my self imposed exile from that godforsaken hellhole. I feel a freer man. Would I feel like I'm making better use of my time if I wasn't constantly rechecking here, BBC Gossip and the paper's transfer rumours pages? Life was so much simpler when you relied soley on the dailies and Solent in the summer. Remember being in the sun somewhere on the Costa's and waiting for a two day old Mirror or Sun to appear to get your fix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Life was so much simpler when you relied soley on the dailies and Solent in the summer. Remember being in the sun somewhere on the Costa's and waiting for a two day old Mirror or Sun to appear to get your fix? Those were the days. Proper exciting as a kid to read a newspaper after going without for a week or so. My inability to leave this forum alone for more than a day is driving me crazy. I've gone from being positive about our transfer dealings to pretty worried and negative. Just need to remember that there is still time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Saints in for Olsson: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4500370/Southampton-battle-Sunderland-and-Villa-for-Martin-Olsson.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Saints in for Olsson: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4500370/Southampton-battle-Sunderland-and-Villa-for-Martin-Olsson.html Wouldn't say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Saints in for Olsson: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4500370/Southampton-battle-Sunderland-and-Villa-for-Martin-Olsson.html Glad we're still in for a left back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Glad we're still in for a left back Likes to attacks, so may be able to do what some said we wanted Buttner for. To attack, and give Fox additional cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Likes to attacks, so may be able to do what some said we wanted Buttner for. To attack, and give Fox additional cover. Yes, would give us midfield cover in a 442, but I imagine in a 433 he would be left back as a replacement for Fox. Seems like we want full backs who can push on, like Clyne. Assuming this isn't just paper/agent talk of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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