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Poll - % of fans living locally to their club in the PL + average distance to ground

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JackanorySFC

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Also the same article put to bed the boring myth (ironically peddled by people that have never been or met anyone from Manchester) that "people from Manchester support Citeh... Only 15% of Mancunains support Citeh, 56% support United.

 

Won't stop out "witty and down right hilarious" support singing "do you come from Manchester" at then when they play here in a few weeks. Bother to speak to a few of them before or after the match and you'll find out that yeah, they do.

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Also the same article put to bed the boring myth (ironically peddled by people that have never been or met anyone from Manchester) that "people from Manchester support Citeh... Only 15% of Mancunains support Citeh, 56% support United.

 

Won't stop out "witty and down right hilarious" support singing "do you come from Manchester" at then when they play here in a few weeks. Bother to speak to a few of them before or after the match and you'll find out that yeah, they do.

 

Hang on, you could do the same survey in Singapore and get the same sort of percentages, doesn't it just indicate that United's global appeal transcends the area they're actually based in ? i.e. they have lots of fans everywhere, including Manchester.

 

Also, rightmove aren't exactly the people I'd want to conduct a football fan survey, their statistical sample is probably rubbish and could be tremendously biased. Let's have a look at the actual document before going off The Sun's interpretation... for a start the relatively low Saints average mileage figure is at odds with the Prem Fans' Survey from 10 years ago which said we had one of the broadest fanbases in the Prem - so is that due to people not wanting to travel for non-Prem football, or has our fanbase significantly changed in that time ?

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Here's the article, 9,000ish Prem fans sampled http://www.rightmove.co.uk/news/uncategorized/youre-supposed-to-be-at-home

 

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As the article mentions, Man U are the 3rd best-supported club in London.

 

You also need additional information about their travelling support and their locations before you can question the validity of "Do you come from Manchester?" as 91% of people claiming to be their fans don't.

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Hang on, you could do the same survey in Singapore and get the same sort of percentages, doesn't it just indicate that United's global appeal transcends the area they're actually based in ? i.e. they have lots of fans everywhere, including Manchester.

 

Also, rightmove aren't exactly the people I'd want to conduct a football fan survey, their statistical sample is probably rubbish and could be tremendously biased. Let's have a look at the actual document before going off The Sun's interpretation... for a start the relatively low Saints average mileage figure is at odds with the Prem Fans' Survey from 10 years ago which said we had one of the broadest fanbases in the Prem - so is that due to people not wanting to travel for non-Prem football, or has our fanbase significantly changed in that time ?

 

My post refers to the saying "people from Manchester support Citeh". In fact (and 9000 is a superb total sample size, way more than I would have expected for a survey like this) that is incorrect, 56% of Mancunians support United. Are you saying people from Manchester supporting United are glory hunters? That's just weird? Why when people always say "Man U's fans come from Devon lol, everyone knows that real Manchester people support City" actually only 15% do.

 

What can Mancunians do about the huge amount of support they have in the UK and overseas? Nothing, that wasn't my point.

 

As for their away fans, I've met a few and they are proper Mancs, as (according to those I've met in the UK through spending a lot of time in Manchester for work, and at England games) are the vast majority of their away support (including a large number of London "ex pats"). How many United away fans have you met "from Devon" or anywhere not in Greater Manchester for that matter?

 

Look, I've never liked United, years ago I'd go as far to say I hated them. But as I've grown up (as have mates I used to go to school with that supported United but are now Saints ST holders despite all the years of stick I gave them for being "glory hunters") I've developed a grudging respect for the best Manager the World has probably ever seen, some amazing local young players brought through to be the backbone of the best team of my generation with an emphasis on attacking, pass and move football, and their away support is (by a mile) the most vocal, passionate and largest in terms of numbers in England.

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Saints come in at 3rd.

 

 

 

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Could easily be this years league table but in reverse. Says a lot about how widening the supporter base is critical in delivering success at the top level.

 

Down the leagues having a local hardcore is hugely important, but in the Premiership you can't beat plastic.

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Pah rubbish.

 

They clearly did not sample the @dubaisaints Massive.

 

We'd have totally messed that mileage number up. After all, by the time we get to mid season, now that we are on our way to th CL we'll have a couple of million more fans down here.

 

All we needed was a great business plan, twitter, fb and our own Lucy Pinder look-a-like Hostie fan at the televised games

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The stats are reallly about how many 'fans' the team has. The more fans you have, the more likely those fans will be geographically disparate, stands to reason. Wigan - bugger alll fans, Norwich - very challenged geographically, Saints - Hampshire enclave (apart from the smelly bit). Basically, the list reads as a list of total fan volume, and is therefore pretty meaningless as the volume = success+history.

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Saints - Hampshire enclave (apart from the smelly bit).

 

Not true we have a catchment area that stretches from london to the coast of wales and south as far as the world rolls, jesus don't you people know anything that's why we need a 9bn megabowl!

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wots our catchment area though? :-D

 

it should be based on where u were born/grew up, rather tan where u live now.

 

it holds little weight in the way they have presented the data, of course half of Manchester support united, but it has no correlation to the fact that 98% of thier fans dont live in Manchester

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There's quite a few of us who live in the Midlands from Northampton clear across to Shrewsbury. We GO to matches. I think the survey is quite misleading insofar as the terms 'Supporters' and 'fans' are used at the same time. Would anyone like to discern the difference? You either 'support' a team or you don't.

PS. I see from todays press that RVP is going to be on £200,000 a week at Manure. Will that make him a better player than Silva at Citeh?

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My post refers to the saying "people from Manchester support Citeh". In fact (and 9000 is a superb total sample size, way more than I would have expected for a survey like this) that is incorrect, 56% of Mancunians support United. Are you saying people from Manchester supporting United are glory hunters? That's just weird? Why when people always say "Man U's fans come from Devon lol, everyone knows that real Manchester people support City" actually only 15% do.

 

What can Mancunians do about the huge amount of support they have in the UK and overseas? Nothing, that wasn't my point.

 

As for their away fans, I've met a few and they are proper Mancs, as (according to those I've met in the UK through spending a lot of time in Manchester for work, and at England games) are the vast majority of their away support (including a large number of London "ex pats"). How many United away fans have you met "from Devon" or anywhere not in Greater Manchester for that matter?

 

Look, I've never liked United, years ago I'd go as far to say I hated them. But as I've grown up (as have mates I used to go to school with that supported United but are now Saints ST holders despite all the years of stick I gave them for being "glory hunters") I've developed a grudging respect for the best Manager the World has probably ever seen, some amazing local young players brought through to be the backbone of the best team of my generation with an emphasis on attacking, pass and move football, and their away support is (by a mile) the most vocal, passionate and largest in terms of numbers in England.

 

I was quite surprised by the sample size but it doesn't tell you what the actual questions were or any statistical bias that might have resulted. But yeah, the sample is decent, The Sun has just lifted the figures and haven't really put a skew on it either.

 

It does still say only 9% of their fans are from Manchester though, so it's still ok to sing it, tedious though it is. I have met quite a few plastic Mancs in South Wales (a hotbed for all things plastic and football, just look at the Swansea and Cardiff attendances now they're not in Div 4 any more) and some of them even used to go. But the rest of it is depressingly familiar, as we all know, most of that lot never go.

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wots our catchment area though? :-D

 

it should be based on where u were born/grew up, rather tan where u live now.

it holds little weight in the way they have presented the data, of course half of Manchester support united, but it has no correlation to the fact that 98% of thier fans dont live in Manchester

 

Based on that I should be a Cardiff City fan :o (or still a Newport County one now they're back at the level they were when they went bankrupt) and living in an SO postcode would work against me, but unlike the born-Sotonians I got to choose. The fact I chose to come to Southampton whilst living in South Wales suggests that (at least in 1991) the catchment area is bigger than people imagine. There are probably a few plastic Saints still in the Cardiff area from 2003 alone, as I know one of those too... though the er, Redbirds have hoovered up a lot of them now.

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Based on that I should be a Cardiff City fan :o (or still a Newport County one now they're back at the level they were when they went bankrupt) and living in an SO postcode would work against me, but unlike the born-Sotonians I got to choose. The fact I chose to come to Southampton whilst living in South Wales suggests that (at least in 1991) the catchment area is bigger than people imagine. There are probably a few plastic Saints still in the Cardiff area from 2003 alone, as I know one of those too... though the er, Redbirds have hoovered up a lot of them now.

 

so ur just a stubborn glory hunter? :D it's more that who u support is usually down to where u grew up, rather than where ur looking to buy a house. and every united fan in or around has grandad who supports them or family up north...

 

how many united fans does it take to change a lightbulb?

 

 

 

three.

 

one to change it, one to buy the official 2012 commemorative lightbulb changing t shirt/DVD/badge, and one to drive the car back to Torquay.

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This really interests me. I was born in Southampton & was taken to The Dell from the age of 5, but my Dad was born in Cambridgeshire & followed Leicester as a boy. He came out of the Navy & followed Saints as he watched them when he was not at sea. None of us live in Southampton any more.

My lads, all born in Shropshire are Saints ST holders.

My point is, is that it is not as simple as living in the same post code. I work in Manchester a lot & there are a good mix of Utd, City & Bolton. There are also a load of Scousers living & working in Manc.....................

And ManUre fans moan amongst themselves about the amount of fans from outside of Manchester. Just try & use the M6 North on a match day!!!!!

IMHO - It is linked to how successful a team is or was.

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so ur just a stubborn glory hunter? :D it's more that who u support is usually down to where u grew up, rather than where ur looking to buy a house. and every united fan in or around has grandad who supports them or family up north...

how many united fans does it take to change a lightbulb?

three.

one to change it, one to buy the official 2012 commemorative lightbulb changing t shirt/DVD/badge, and one to drive the car back to Torquay.

 

Yeah, I chose to support Saints (and go to University in Southampton) based on the excitement around Ian Branfoot's tenure and the huge potential of The Dell. :)

 

I think having just seen a team get liquidated after 2 successive relegations and dropping out of the Football League I kind of related to the underdog. Or I'd stopped caring, whatever. No, actually it was how disorganised the Uni Open Day was, and walking back to the train station via the nice bits and The Common. I like a bit of green. Plus there was a Div 1 club, which was a bonus.

 

I will own up to going to Fratton a couple of times in early '92 "just to check", but they won 6-1 against Millwall and got Bruce Rioch sacked the first time I went (14 March 1992), and I somehow qualified to buy an FA Cup Semi-Final ticket (but didn't actually get one), I wasn't having any of that nonsense in my life. Was back down there in the away end with Bristol City, Cambridge and Notts County within months.

 

So yeah, I'm a very patient glory hunter, 21 years and counting so far, one JPT win, a trip to Bucharest and an FA Cup Final defeat 12 miles from my house so far. I wasn't fully committed by the time of the ZDS Final. Newport have been promoted 5 times and been to an FA Trophy Final in the same period.

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Yeah, I chose to support Saints (and go to University in Southampton) based on the excitement around Ian Branfoot's tenure and the huge potential of The Dell. :)

 

I think having just seen a team get liquidated after 2 successive relegations and dropping out of the Football League I kind of related to the underdog. Or I'd stopped caring, whatever. No, actually it was how disorganised the Uni Open Day was, and walking back to the train station via the nice bits and The Common. I like a bit of green. Plus there was a Div 1 club, which was a bonus.

 

I will own up to going to Fratton a couple of times in early '92 "just to check", but they won 6-1 against Millwall and got Bruce Rioch sacked the first time I went (14 March 1992), and I somehow qualified to buy an FA Cup Semi-Final ticket (but didn't actually get one), I wasn't having any of that nonsense in my life. Was back down there in the away end with Bristol City, Cambridge and Notts County within months.

 

So yeah, I'm a very patient glory hunter, 21 years and counting so far, one JPT win, a trip to Bucharest and an FA Cup Final defeat 12 miles from my house so far. I wasn't fully committed by the time of the ZDS Final. Newport have been promoted 5 times and been to an FA Trophy Final in the same period.

 

 

Don't forget you were playing semi pro football for some of this time too.

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