Tokyo-Saint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 WELL ....as you asked Minty... ....we were actually promoted in season 1977-78. There was no such thing as a transfer window and a club could sign.. whoever... whenever. But during that season.. we said goodbye to Peter Osgood who tried pastures new in the USA, as well as former youth players Tony Sealy and Steve Neville but both went on to successful careers in lower leagues. We had already bought in CBs Chris Nicholl and Mike Pickering, as well as Phil Boyer who partnered up with prev. seasons signing Ted MacDougall (for the third time) and also introduced Graham Baker who scored a goal in 42 seconds... on his MOTD televised debut game. This was the basis of the promotion side in that season.. By the start of season (78-79) we bought in 4 players; only 3 of who, stayed any length of time. Winger Terry Curran (whose only claim to fame was to score the only goal in the 2nd leg SFvLeeds at the Dell - and take us to the League Cup Final. Goalie Terry Gennoe was better than rated by man,y but suffered a crisis of confidence when dropped by Lawrie Mac and left for Blackburn where he kept goal for 289 apps. (club record). Finally... we saw ex-Arsenal legend Charlie George play ....4 months after signing for an enormous £400K fee from Derby. (goodness knows what that would be today?) but he never recovered properly from his knee injury and left after only 52 games. lastly... the one genuine signing that was top class was IVAN GOLAC. Talk to anyone of that generation and you'll hear only superlatives about the Yuglslav who was one of the first foreign signings in the UK. A superb full back who could score goals too. The following Div 1 season 1979-80 saw the departure of LB David Peach after 278 games... and his still unbroken FL record of 35 successful penalties, and former youth defender Manny Andruszewski who had made an impressive 98 apps. that seasons new arrivals; were Yugoslav goalie Ivan Katalinic, and (the second of McMeneny's FIVE England captains)... Dave Watson)..and a cheeky young London lad who went on to score 99 goals in over 200 starts ...Steve Moran. So no one with Prem experience then either? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 Another exhorbitant fee,if true.If it happens i would love to be proved wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 Another exhorbitant fee,if true.If it happens i would love to be proved wrong. It is about the going rate for a highly rated young British player. Also consider Wycombe Wanderers will receive a large % which will drive up the price, as will Blackpool's relatively strong financial position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 One decent'ish season and his value goes over 10m...Looking at how our old boy Dyer did last season I can't see why Phillips couldn't do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 kieron dyer played 1 game last season!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bearsy Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 but whattagame it was G! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 kieron dyer played 1 game last season!! When did he play for us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seaford Saint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 WELL ....as you asked Minty... ....we were actually promoted in season 1977-78. There was no such thing as a transfer window and a club could sign.. whoever... whenever. But during that season.. we said goodbye to Peter Osgood who tried pastures new in the USA, as well as former youth players Tony Sealy and Steve Neville but both went on to successful careers in lower leagues. We had already bought in CBs Chris Nicholl and Mike Pickering, as well as Phil Boyer who partnered up with prev. seasons signing Ted MacDougall (for the third time) and also introduced Graham Baker who scored a goal in 42 seconds... on his MOTD televised debut game. This was the basis of the promotion side in that season.. By the start of season (78-79) we bought in 4 players; only 3 of who, stayed any length of time. Winger Terry Curran (whose only claim to fame was to score the only goal in the 2nd leg SFvLeeds at the Dell - and take us to the League Cup Final. Goalie Terry Gennoe was better than rated by many, but suffered a crisis of confidence when dropped by Lawrie Mac and left for Blackburn where he kept goal for a club record 289 games. Finally... we saw ex-Arsenal legend Charlie George play ....4 months after signing for an enormous £400K fee from Derby. (goodness knows what that would be today?) but he never recovered properly from his knee injury and left after only 52 games. lastly... the one genuine signing that was top class was IVAN GOLAC. Talk to anyone of that generation and you'll hear only superlatives about the Yuglslav who was one of the first foreign signings in the UK. A superb full back who could score goals too. The following Div 1 season 1979-80 saw the departure of LB David Peach after 278 games... and his still unbroken FL record of 35 successful penalties, and former youth defender Manny Andruszewski who had made an impressive 98 apps. that seasons new arrivals; were Yugoslav goalie Ivan Katalinic, and (the second of McMeneny's FIVE England captains).CB Dave Watson)..and a cheeky young London lad who went on to score 99 goals in over 200 starts ...Steve Moran. Thanks for posting that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 kieron dyer played 1 game last season!! That's a lot of minutes in a single season for young Dyer, he never normally gets into double figures. Good solid season for him. Great value for money for club and fans alike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 That's a lot of minutes in a single season for young Dyer, he never normally gets into double figures. Good solid season for him. Great value for money for club and fans alike. Hope hes not on a PAYP deal......poor guy would be skint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 Happy with this one. Hope a couple of CB's are to follow. As to the constant comparisons with Norwich & Swansea yes, its a bit tedious but that is all there is to go on (or cling to if thats your view). Me I'll wait until the end of the season before I start that malarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 It is about the going rate for a highly rated young British player. Also consider Wycombe Wanderers will receive a large % which will drive up the price, as will Blackpool's relatively strong financial position. Has the club ever done anything you don't agree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 Has the club ever done anything you don't agree with? They messed up season ticket payments big time this summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurleyBurley Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 They messed up season ticket payments big time this summer. Finally, something for people to get behind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 They messed up season ticket payments big time this summer. Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintNeil90 Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 My mates supporting other prem teams agree with that, they is all Spurs and Villa and what not and they found it funny when we spent £7m on a Championship striker "no-one ever heard of". They find the Phillips deal equally amusing! ****s! When will fans realise this is the going rate when you want to sign a young english talent who is arguably their current clubs best player... You may also wish to point out a few of said clubs similar transfers.... Villa: Fabien Delph £8m for a championship midfielder Matt Lowton £3m for a league one right back Spurs: Kyle Walker £3m for a unknown championship right back Kyle Naughton £5m for an unknown championship right back Gareth Bale £6m for a pretty unknown championship left back David Bentley £15million pounds!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 Who cares about the fee? This would be a good signing for us, and his future fee will only rise. Yes we still have the memory of administration ringing in our memories, but we're run by a banker now. I think he knows what we can and can't afford. From Wiki: "His most recent position was as an executive at Banque Heritage in Geneva where he managed the finances of billionaires" I think he's best placed to decide we can spend £6 million on a winger that can only improve us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobM Posted 16 August, 2012 Share Posted 16 August, 2012 Who cares about the fee? we're run by a banker now. I think he knows what we can and can't afford. I think you answered your own question I think he's best placed to decide we can spend £6 million on a winger that can only improve us. I think NA is best placed to say whether Phillips will improve us and NC is best placed to say whether we can afford him. If NC is putting himself in a position where he alone can say whether a player can improve us, we're back in the scary days of chairman making their own signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I am getting confused, has Matt Phillips actually signed or agreed terms with us yet? Seems to be so much activity on the transfer front today, will we score a hattrick of signings today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I am getting confused, has Matt Phillips actually signed or agreed terms with us yet? Seems to be so much activity on the transfer front today, will we score a hattrick of signings today. Still waiting to hear if the bid is accepted, I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 bigadamsport: Maybe #saintsfc about to complete Phillips & Ramirez - fact that NC is back in the country is a good sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 http://m.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/holloway-don-t-call-me-a-liar-1-4842426 No offer at present. How does calling an old number for Holloway make it an illegal approach?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/holloway-don-t-call-me-a-liar-1-4842426 Holloway is a tad upset, also says no official bid has made made for Phillips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 http://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/holloway-don-t-call-me-a-liar-1-4842426 Holloway is a tad upset, also says no official bid has made made for Phillips. I win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Haha Holloway. Seems like this perhaps isnt as close as was suggested though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anothersaintinsouthsea Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Holloway: "Don't call me a liar" Did anyone call him a liar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liquidshokk Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Holloway: "Don't call me a liar" Did anyone call him a liar? In the sense that Adkins denies his claim that southampton made an illegal approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Holloway: "Don't call me a liar" Did anyone call him a liar? I did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Without a Halo Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I think you answered your own question I think NA is best placed to say whether Phillips will improve us and NC is best placed to say whether we can afford him. If NC is putting himself in a position where he alone can say whether a player can improve us, we're back in the scary days of chairman making their own signings. We have done so badly with the Adkins/Coretese combination so far havn't we? I think we should let them decide how best to use each others strengths and cover weaknesses in the efforts of creating the right team within the right financial structure without telling them who is best to do what! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Tone Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Holloway: "Don't call me a liar" Did anyone call him a liar? Maybe not, but I've often called him a first rate prat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 WELL ....as you asked Minty... ....we were actually promoted in season 1977-78. There was no such thing as a transfer window and a club could sign.. whoever... whenever. But during that season.. we said goodbye to Peter Osgood who tried pastures new in the USA, as well as former youth players Tony Sealy and Steve Neville but both went on to successful careers in lower leagues. We had already bought in CBs Chris Nicholl and Mike Pickering, as well as Phil Boyer who partnered up with prev. seasons signing Ted MacDougall (for the third time) and also introduced Graham Baker who scored a goal in 42 seconds... on his MOTD televised debut game. This was the basis of the promotion side in that season.. By the start of season (78-79) we bought in 4 players; only 3 of who, stayed any length of time. Winger Terry Curran (whose only claim to fame was to score the only goal in the 2nd leg SFvLeeds at the Dell - and take us to the League Cup Final. Goalie Terry Gennoe was better than rated by many, but suffered a crisis of confidence when dropped by Lawrie Mac and left for Blackburn where he kept goal for a club record 289 games. Finally... we saw ex-Arsenal legend Charlie George play ....4 months after signing for an enormous £400K fee from Derby. (goodness knows what that would be today?) but he never recovered properly from his knee injury and left after only 52 games. lastly... the one genuine signing that was top class was IVAN GOLAC. Talk to anyone of that generation and you'll hear only superlatives about the Yuglslav who was one of the first foreign signings in the UK. A superb full back who could score goals too. The following Div 1 season 1979-80 saw the departure of LB David Peach after 278 games... and his still unbroken FL record of 35 successful penalties, and former youth defender Manny Andruszewski who had made an impressive 98 apps. that seasons new arrivals; were Yugoslav goalie Ivan Katalinic, and (the second of McMeneny's FIVE England captains).CB Dave Watson)..and a cheeky young London lad who went on to score 99 goals in over 200 starts ...Steve Moran. Great post, but with my pedant head on, Steve Moran isn't from London. Lawrie spotted him playing for Sarisbury Sparks and offered him a new pair of boots if he scored a hat-trick, which he duly did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Great post, but with my pedant head on, Steve Moran isn't from London. Lawrie spotted him playing for Sarisbury Sparks and offered him a new pair of boots if he scored a hat-trick, which he duly did. Possibly a mix up between Steves namely Messrs Moran and Williams, who was a cheeky chappie from London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 alex_crook: Matt phillips hands in transfer request at #blackpool move to #saintsfc imminent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 alex_crook: Matt phillips hands in transfer request at #blackpool move to #saintsfc imminent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 We are Southampton, we do what we want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Id love to see Holloways face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I actually don't mind Ian Holloway, but he really seems to hate us.... bet he's fuming right now! Bless him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 alex_crook: Matt phillips hands in transfer request at #blackpool move to #saintsfc imminent Reading that article about Phillips from the gazette, it made me wonder if the player who asked holloway why he hadn't answered his calls was in fact Phillips hoping to move a transfer along? Perhaps the fact he was hearing about ourinterest from the player himself is what led to bitter lil Ian's rant about tapping up the other day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Id love to see Holloways face I'd pay ****ing good money to see that now. Bet it's something like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Balls Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 What an exciting day so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Id love to see Holloways face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I'd pay ****ing good money to see that now. Bet it's something like I'd guess a mix of & Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ollysaints1 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Holloway has hated us since we sent his Leicester side down on the last day in 2008. It pretty much escolated from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amazing Hangover Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Not with the Blackpool squad? http://www.blackpool.vitalfootball.co.uk/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=29586&posts=2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Great post, but with my pedant head on, Steve Moran isn't from London. Lawrie spotted him playing for Sarisbury Sparks and offered him a new pair of boots if he scored a hat-trick, which he duly did. We all know the story, (and he was outside the shop on the following Monday morning with his chit to get his boots... but in checking I noted that In that Number states he was born in CROYDON . Is that still London? He surely moved south at some early stage, so I was a bit unsure myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latter day saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Id love to see Holloways face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raynesparksaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Great post, but with my pedant head on, Steve Moran isn't from London. Lawrie spotted him playing for Sarisbury Sparks and offered him a new pair of boots if he scored a hat-trick, which he duly did. I'm sure Steve Moran was from Croydon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 What an exciting day so far Would be more exciting if we had actually signed someone!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Id love to see Holloways face It wont be any more tw*ttish than usual. Maybe a touch of paranoia blended into his normal "bemused yokel" look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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