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VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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Maybe International Clearance rather than a work permit. I remember we had to get int clearance for Steven D from Rangers.

You always have to get international clearance for a transfer between 2 countries, whatever level, standard practice. It is normally a formality, and is not affected by the quality of the player. It was only complicated a little with Steve Davis because of the Rangers situation, in that effectively he was not registered with a team affiliated to the Scottish FA.

Saint Charlie

Saint Charlie

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Slots straight in for Jay Rodriguez on the left IMO. But as you said, he can also play right, in behind or as a ST. He's that sort of all covered front 3 type of player, will fit perfectly into the formation we're trying. He's the sort of player you need to make that formation work in the first place.

 

Did most of his best work for Bologna centrally and after that prefers the right to cut in.

Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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Wise words Toomer but somehow Burley and Skacel aren't in the same League in terms of class and ability. Fingers crossed he will be a massive boost to us but we still need some bog standard old fashioned Premiership defenders and, dare I say it, some pace out wide. Far too one-dimensional on Saturday.

 

Yea it would have been great to have James Collins or someone similar. These bog standard premier league defenders are awesome

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InvictaSaint

InvictaSaint

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Confirms work permit needed, they can take ages.

 

At least we have a 2 week break after United, which I don't think he would be ready for anyway. Plenty of time to get a work permit sorted. Even my passport renewal came through in under 2 weeks.... :-)

VectisSaint

VectisSaint

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Confirms work permit needed, they can take ages.

Only if he does not meet the criteria, which is based on FIFA ranking of his international team and number of international appearances in last 2 or 3? years. Pahars took ages because Latvia were very lowly ranked. Uruguay are currently ranked 4th, so no problem there. As of Feb, Ramirez had played 9 times for Uruguay in last 2 years, so probably no issue there either.

 

Found the rules:

1. A player must have played for his country in at least 75% of its competitive “A” team matches he was available for selection, during the 2 years preceding the date of the application;

 

2. The player’s country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA World Rankings when averaged over the 2 years preceding the date of the application

Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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When he signs I shall make this thread a 'sticky'. Cannot believe how much we have spent this window so far, stunning stuff. Still can't believe it's my saints

 

It's still your Saints, trust me......Saturday proved that!

Ken Tone

Ken Tone

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He'll still need a work permit, even of he holds an EU passport, it just means that the % of him

Getting one are a lot higher than non-EU nationals.

 

Dont think so mate. EU nationals have a right to work across the EU.

 

"You are entitled to be recruited under the same conditions as nationals of the country in which you are seeking work. You cannot be asked to meet any additional requirements. This means that you can apply for any job vacancy advertised in any EU country, including public sector jobs

[h=2]Employment rights[/h]As an EU national working in another EU country you have the right to live there. For a stay of over three months, this right is confirmed by the issuing of a residence permit to EU nationals.You are subject to the same working conditions as nationals of the country you are working in as regards, for example, pay, dismissal, hours of work, maternity leave and health /safety at work. You are also subject to the same conditions as nationals of the host country with regard to the principles of equality between men and women."

 

But anyway since he is Ukrainian (not Russian as someone else seems to think) he will need a work permit as well as international clearance from the football authorities. So even if he signs today, I don't rate his chances of being cleared to play this weekend. Much more chance with Danish defenders though!

Saint Scott

Saint Scott

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Play him on left or right then? GULY is no good at RM and JRod is not a LM

 

A player with his attributes has be playing in the middle pulling the strings. The hazard/silva roll is what he will do best. Lallana will have push back out wide and hopefully we bring in another flair winger with pace.

saints_is_the_south

saints_is_the_south

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But anyway since he is Ukrainian (not Russian as someone else seems to think) he will need a work permit as well as international clearance from the football authorities. So even if he signs today, I don't rate his chances of being cleared to play this weekend. Much more chance with Danish defenders though!

 

Er, what?

supersonic

supersonic

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Dont think so mate. EU nationals have a right to work across the EU.

 

"You are entitled to be recruited under the same conditions as nationals of the country in which you are seeking work. You cannot be asked to meet any additional requirements. This means that you can apply for any job vacancy advertised in any EU country, including public sector jobs

[h=2]Employment rights[/h]As an EU national working in another EU country you have the right to live there. For a stay of over three months, this right is confirmed by the issuing of a residence permit to EU nationals.You are subject to the same working conditions as nationals of the country you are working in as regards, for example, pay, dismissal, hours of work, maternity leave and health /safety at work. You are also subject to the same conditions as nationals of the host country with regard to the principles of equality between men and women."

 

But anyway since he is Ukrainian (not Russian as someone else seems to think) he will need a work permit as well as international clearance from the football authorities. So even if he signs today, I don't rate his chances of being cleared to play this weekend. Much more chance with Danish defenders though!

 

Forgetting the last bit,

 

Is there any proof he is an EU national? And he still needs clearance to work here. Which, as you have pointed out, is guaranteed for EU nationals (unless he's a drug dealer or wanted for murder etc)

Viking Warrior

Viking Warrior

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Rmour on fans websites is that both rickie and adam L and ward prowse are off to pastures new this week

 

Why are there so many depressive wind up c***s out there . its bad enough reading all the negative stuff on this site.

 

Keep the faith we will be okay

Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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Er, what?[/quote

 

 

Oops ..predictive text makes fool out of poster again! Bloody iPad!

 

Retreats in embarrassment.

 

And the reference to Russia....what were you trying to say when the IPad changed that as well?

Ken Tone

Ken Tone

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And the reference to Russia....what were you trying to say when the IPad changed that as well?

 

That was a reference to pap's

"Know that Russia is not part of the EU, but they seem to be at the other end of the scale when it comes to foreign imports"

....since you ask

Bearsy

Bearsy

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Play him on left or right then? GULY is no good at RM and JRod is not a LM

 

He plays on the left he plays on the right, cos Guly Du Prado and Rodriguez are sh!te

mikee

mikee

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I would be very surprised if Ramirez is not played centrally in the typical no. 10 role.

 

Forward line of Lallana, Lambert, Phillips (or similar)

 

with Guly and Puncheon providing squad depth and Rodrigues competing with Rickie. Also think Lee could play wide of a forward 3 so plenty of options if Ramirez and Phillips sign.

Turkish

Turkish

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I would be very surprised if Ramirez is not played centrally in the typical no. 10 role.

 

Forward line of Lallana, Lambert, Phillips (or similar)

 

with Guly and Puncheon providing squad depth and Rodrigues competing with Rickie. Also think Lee could play wide of a forward 3 so plenty of options if Ramirez and Phillips sign.

 

You are going to be very surprised then

itchen_dan

itchen_dan

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Zoggers87: @DL_corriere Reports today suggest it is nearly completed?

 

DL_corriere: @Zoggers87 yes it is

 

 

 

Saintsareback: @DL_corriere hello how long until it could be sealed?

 

DL_corriere: @Saintsareback today is a key day

Verbal Kint

Verbal Kint

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Explain

 

Adkins has repeatedly talked about Lallana's new position in the team and he wouldn't have spent the whole of pre season playing him in the middle if he was then going to move him back out wide once we signed Ramirez. He'll stay central and Ramirez will play in one of the wide roles (if he signs)

Lazlo78

Lazlo78

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Voters 572

 

Lots of empty voting stalls for a premier league transfer saga like this? Really poor effort from the fans and a nervous, subdued atmosphere in here... too many voters with idiotic oversized foam pens to put their X :( FFS even Pompey got 453 votes on a poll about which charity they would prefer to sponsor the re-signing of Vincent Pericard! They're the bestest voters in the land...

Turkish

Turkish

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Explain

 

Adkins has repeatedly talked about Lallana's new position in the team and he wouldn't have spent the whole of pre season playing him in the middle if he was then going to move him back out wide once we signed Ramirez. He'll stay central and Ramirez will play in one of the wide roles (if he signs)

 

Thank you.

 

and just in case anyone is in any doubt. He's a winger, although i expect him to be able to rotate postions at times in the main he'll be a winger, because, well, he's a winger. Therefore i'd be very surprised if he's played in anything other than the position he plays in, which to clairfy, is as a winger.

Aura

Aura

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HusseinMarhoon: #Bologna agreed to sell Gastón Ramírez for €14m to Southampton. Announcement expected soon (via: @carlolaudisa) #SaintsFC

 

 

Finally !!!

itchen_dan

itchen_dan

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carlolaudisa: #Bologna. Svolta per la cessione di #Ramirez. Accordo con il #Southampton per 14 mln. A breve l'annuncio #gds

 

carlolaudisa: #Bologna. Turning point for the sale of #Ramirez. Agreement with the #Southampton for 14 mln. In the short the announcement #gds

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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How reliable is this guy?

 

The sports reporter for the local Bologna paper.

 

Also confirmed by the chief football reporter for Sky Italia, and also the Italian correspondent for ESPN.

shurlock

shurlock

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Thank you.

 

and just in case anyone is in any doubt. He's a winger, although i expect him to be able to rotate postions at times in the main he'll be a winger, because, well, he's a winger. Therefore i'd be very surprised if he's played in anything other than the position he plays in, which to clairfy, is as a winger.

 

If he's as good as suggested, you have to build the team around Ramirez and wherever he can do most damage -could be on the wing, could be more central (mindful that comes with defensive responsibilities). Anything else would be a waste.

Dig Dig

Dig Dig

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Thank you.

 

and just in case anyone is in any doubt. He's a winger, although i expect him to be able to rotate postions at times in the main he'll be a winger, because, well, he's a winger. Therefore i'd be very surprised if he's played in anything other than the position he plays in, which to clairfy, is as a winger.

 

Wrong AGAIN Turkish. He'll play the quarter back role for us.

 

Btw, he played most of last season through the middle for Bologna. Did alright for a winger

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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By the way, I don't think this announcement is going to be ''He has signed'' - It's going to be a quick statement released which confirms what we suspect, that we've reached agreement with the club for the transfer of Ramirez.

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