Turkish Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 You are right of course. We should just throw the towel in. Don't be a mug. The point I'm making is that dull days says that for new formation to succeed 2 of the 3 players need to be new and as a result will have to be signed in the next week or 1 of them does and the other Is someone who has never played there and we have no idea if he can. Does that sound promising to you? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 I don't get this lee thing. He scored one goal didn't look that good and everyone thinks he's amazing. Don't think he's that good personally hope I'm wrong He was the man of the moment because he scored a good goal and ran around a lot. Totally unproven and amazing that so many think he is the answer to all our prayers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Don't be a mug. The point I'm making is that dull days says that for new formation to succeed 2 of the 3 players need to be new and as a result will have to be signed in the next week or 1 of them does and the other Is someone who has never played there and we have no idea if he can. Does that sound promising to you? . One mans promising is another man's doom on here Turdish. Let's try and keep it together and see what develops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 One mans promising is another man's doom on here Turdish. Let's try and keep it together and see what develops. So what are your thoughts? Do you think it's wise to play a system which relys on us signing new players to play in it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 So what are your thoughts? Do you think it's wise to play a system which relys on us signing new players to play in it? I think there's 38 games in this season, do you think I'm right or wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 I think there's 38 games in this season, do you think I'm right or wrong? 2 down, 36 left. Well beaten at home by a likely relegation rival. Relying on new signings we havent made to play the formation we have. What's your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avenue Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 2 down, 36 left. Well beaten at home by a likely relegation rival. Relying on new signings we havent made to play the formation we have. What's your thoughts? My thoughts are keep It tucked in your pants for now, like I said 2 games don't make a season. Off to the gym, goodnight x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucks Saint Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 2 down, 36 left. Well beaten at home by a likely relegation rival. Relying on new signings we havent made to play the formation we have. What's your thoughts? Wigan were doomed with 9 games left last season. Think we should panic after 2? Go figure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Told by a very reliable source today 15million euros was transferred to a foreign account yesterday. Bologna chairman being an ass Depends on whose foreign account it was - did this reliable source say? I have a french account - was it mine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Told by a very reliable source today 15million euros was transferred to a foreign account yesterday. Bologna chairman being an ass Have to say the skeptic inside me immediately goes for the 'thats bollock; prove it' thought. The fan inside me is streaming 'please god, be true'!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Go figureI would, but I am not American. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suhari Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Will we get this thread to 100 pages before the money clears? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 August, 2012 Share Posted 25 August, 2012 Watched Swansea today and they were excellent! Could see a lot of similarities between them and us but the obvious addition to their game was pace... We need this and time with new formation. Am very optimistic we will at the very least consolidate our position in league. Tad lee coming back will make significant difference, as would someone pacy like Phillips? And that guile in final third Ramirez would bring. Jrod is a wise investment, couple of seasons with a handful of goals minimum will mean he's worth £10m at least. Lambert won't play every game, here we must play Jrod through middle. All is good, my fellow chaps, be patient and as season develops you will see us succeed. I would not swap Adkins for anyone else out there! Top top manager, who players love playing for. Up the saints! Pretty good assessment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulGilchrist_76 Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 No, I'd rather we played like we did today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewell Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Pilchards and those who have quoted him why not remove the source as the last thing you want to be responsible for is someone losing their position. It also has to be mentioned that all those who demand to know 'the source' of information are out of order and do not think of the consequences it could cause for the informants. It could just put them in a difficult position, it could mean there information supply is cut off or in worst case scenario it could lead to them losing their position. What happened to trust? If someone gets it wrong and has no explanation as to why they got it wrong then surely that is enough to know how reliable they are. I use other forums and they do use reputation button which you can use to vote on the reliability and validity of their postings. Maybe this is something that should be looked at on Saints Forums. FWIW I have met Pilchards a few times and he doesn’t strike me as a bull****ter and if he is presenting some information I am pretty sure it is what he would have been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 TBH - he has hardly passed on information that most of us who have been following this thread haven't deduced already? Its a bit of a poor state of affairs when a guy who works at the club on the retail side of things can't pass on a bit of gossip. Back in the day that was what supporting the club was all about - a week of rumours and gossip in the town about the players. Now we seem to be living behind an iron curtain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 TBH - he has hardly passed on information that most of us who have been following this thread haven't deduced already? Its a bit of a poor state of affairs when a guy who works at the club on the retail side of things can't pass on a bit of gossip. Back in the day that was what supporting the club was all about - a week of rumours and gossip in the town about the players. Now we seem to be living behind an iron curtain. Hmm, no problem with that but NC is well known for not being the most 'delicate' with those that transgress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Hmm, no problem with that but NC is well known for not being the most 'delicate' with those that transgress. I know Norm and I take your point, but a sense of perspective is surely required here. I wouldn't be surprised if the guy was just putting 2+2 together like most of us are on here. It is what us fans do. I am sure NC keeps things pretty tight to his chest - in fact last week it seemed that NA was semi in the dark. The sooner this wretched transfer was done and dusted the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 The reason why I mentioned him is because he has not really added anything that we all know, he just confirmed that the staff have met him & he did stay in Lyndhurst. If its a big problem then a mod can delete the last page then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 TBH - he has hardly passed on information that most of us who have been following this thread haven't deduced already? Its a bit of a poor state of affairs when a guy who works at the club on the retail side of things can't pass on a bit of gossip. Back in the day that was what supporting the club was all about - a week of rumours and gossip in the town about the players. Now we seem to be living behind an iron curtain. Ah hah ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. If he gets sacked he can get a proper job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 No one will lose their job over a bit of transfer gossip. There are employment laws in this country FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Chalet Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 The reason why I mentioned him is because he has not really added anything that we all know, he just confirmed that the staff have met him & he did stay in Lyndhurst. If its a big problem then a mod can delete the last page then. I have removed the chaps position from posts. It's fairly common ground that Ramirez has been here and spoken to us, also if the club wanted to keep everything under wraps I wonder why they would 'introduce' him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneawol Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 There are a blazing sun and that takes your breath away when its a noon and a half, at the end of the finish, Ramirez exits Casteldebole. From Bologna Gaston was already 'out' on Thursday, after the dispute with President Guaraldi now draws a big question mark on its future. Yes, the future. "I do not know what will happen, then decide on the president," is the only exception to the order of silence that Nino is allowed leaving the training center. Mute the goal. Where the goal is 19 on Friday, when the market closes and will know if it has changed Gaston jacket or if it is a separate house of Bologna, which will touch mend yet another tear. In the meantime, yesterday spoke to his agent, Pablo Betancourt, the man who had been happy Gaston and Southampton, but not the Bologna, and in these cases, you know, to close a deal needs to be happy in three. "This is no time to controversy - says Betancourt - why Gaston prefers to remain silent. Guaraldi He told that he did not play more in Bologna? I will not comment.'m Just saying Ramirez is very young and one day in During the lively chat with the president, he had the reaction that can have a twenty year old when she realizes that she jumped to an operation that he would be the life of the contract. Gaston Yesterday he called me and told me he is not angry, but disappointed . I do not understand how it could be a lack of surety to blow up a deal so important. (Gaston poorly digest the fact that in the first four months of Bologna, in full storm Porcedda, has not seen any salary and that the club rossoblù, when it came time to pay the installments with Penarol, you have not done scruples to pay the last with a delay of seven months, ed.) I told him I should not worry, there's still a week before the closing market and that something can happen. " The point is that if nothing happens, Nino should yield to the existing contract with Bologna, leaving the mutiny in which he guiltily slipped. "Now is injured and can not play - says Betancourt - I talk to him every day to let him know that if the end were to stay in Bologna, his career would continue anyway." Southampton is out of the game. E 'instead yet fully run in Tottenham, but currently offers 15 million for his card (only 10 of them would end up in the coffers of Bologna) and a $ 1.5 million net per year for the player. Occhio alla Fiorentina: If Waltz of the top players from here to Friday Jovetic is privy to the project for Ramirez Della Valle could headlines again. http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/bologna/?action=read&idnet=emVyb2NpbnF1YW50dW5vLmNvbS02Njkx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Southampton out of the game, leaving spurs eh? Well let's hope we have other irons in the fire that doesn't involve a desperate chairman trying to get us to do things the wrong way then blahs to the media, are we dealing with Dave Whelan over Ramirez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Loads of similarities. They've scored 8 conceded 0 in 2 games and won 2, we've scored 2 and won 0. They've signed a free scoring, highly rated attacking midfielder from a top european league, we haven't. They look class and capable of Tearing teams in the PL apart. Yep, loads of similarities. Oh, come on. There is an 'S' and an 'a' in their name, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pangy Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Southampton out of the game, leaving spurs eh? Well let's hope we have other irons in the fire that doesn't involve a desperate chairman trying to get us to do things the wrong way then blahs to the media, are we dealing with Dave Whelan over Ramirez? I am pity sure that Spurs are about to drop £20mill on Willians,who would play the same role so I doubt they will go in for him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Difficult to translate, but it sounds like Tottenham's offer is still on the table; it is acceptable to Bologna but the player would prefer a move to us because the money is better and the promise of football. Our offer is not acceptable to Bologna, so we are currently out of the running. So come the end of the window, it is then down to the player; either he accepts Tottenham's terms, or he buckles down and makes amends with Bologna. Unless the player flatly rejects Spurs' terms, in which case Bologna may be forced to accept our bid if they need the money. Personally my hunch is that this puts Spurs in pole position. The player will not want to sit tight at Bologna because it will be quite a challenge for a 20 year old to build bridges after what he did. Until now, it has been a case of whether either Saints or Bologna blink first. Now, there is a real possibility that the player will blink first and instruct his agent to complete a move to Spurs. If we have the capacity to meet Bologna's demands and we really want the player, I think now is the time for Cortese to complete the deal. Otherwise I suspect he will be a Spurs player by Wednesday and we will have a very limited time to complete a deal for one of the alternatives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 They.Are.Playing.Games. Spurs interest ended long ago. They are currently trying to secure Willian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 They.Are.Playing.Games. Spurs interest ended long ago. They are currently trying to secure Willian This! Just hope that if we do get him it's before the deadline to play on Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
batterseasaint Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 It is possible that Ramirez was Spurs' first choice but went for Willans when it became apparent that Ramirez's wage demands were too high. Now, if they can get Ramirez at the price they originally offered, they may prefer that option to spending more on Willans. I'm not saying this is the case, but it is certainly a possible scenario. Either way, it is a gamble for Nic, unless he knows someone at Spurs from whom he can find out their true position. That said, we have played hard ball so far and I don't see that changing. If he comes to us, it will go right down to the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Nixon still saying we expect to sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maysie Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Jayrodfan2! @Jayrodfan2 @reluctantnicko @crucialguy @adkinsisourking when did u last speak to your saints source al ? Does he still think Ramirez will sign ? Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 18m Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko @Jayrodfan2 @crucialguy @adkinsisourking Yes. Said last night about extra up front cash demand. No biggie. Hide conversation Reply Favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Jayrodfan2! @Jayrodfan2 @reluctantnicko @crucialguy @adkinsisourking when did u last speak to your saints source al ? Does he still think Ramirez will sign ? Expand Reply Retweet Favorite 18m Alan Nixon @reluctantnicko @Jayrodfan2 @crucialguy @adkinsisourking Yes. Said last night about extra up front cash demand. No biggie. Hide conversation Reply Favorite If it's no biggie I wish we'd hurry up and sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_disco123 Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Ok im not ITK or anything like that but I just wanted to pass this on I text my mate who is a spurs fan and asked if he knew anything about them signing GR, his response was "unlikely, we have players who can already play in that postion and with us trying to get willian I doubt even more, or though we might come in with a last min bid IF the willian bid goes tits up" I can tell you that text put my mind to rest for a bit but that is just opinion so dont slate me or my mate over it! I still think he will sign anyway but I would keep an eye on twitter in the next fews day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazlo78 Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 They.Are.Playing.Games. Spurs interest ended long ago. They are currently trying to secure Willian I believe he's just a pantomime willian in this drama! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint 76er Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 They.Are.Playing.Games. Spurs interest ended long ago. They are currently trying to secure Willian Isn't he with the BlackEyed Peas? Thought Fergie would have the inside running on this one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Get Channel Five on everyone. Beauty and The Beast is on. Our Gaston song will be on shortly. Start learning the tune. We'll take the roof off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Get Channel Five on everyone. Beauty and The Beast is on. Our Gaston song will be on shortly. Start learning the tune. We'll take the roof off. Just post a youtube clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Get Channel Five on everyone. Beauty and The Beast is on. Our Gaston song will be on shortly. Start learning the tune. We'll take the roof off. If we can master the choreography we will definitely need a 50k ground for the kids parties/show crowd etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 On now. All together now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasiak-9- Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 To the Beauty and the Beast tune "NOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooOOOOOOne (gets the crowd going and gets people involved) ...Plays like Gaston ...No-one scores like Gaston." and you lot can make up the rest. We'll figure something out. Or maybe we'll sing "Come on you reds" When we play in white and then complain when our kit gets changed so we don't look like retards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 On now. All together now. No chance, country file's on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colehillsaint Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 To the Beauty and the Beast tune "NOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ooooooooOOOOOOne (gets the crowd going and gets people involved) ...Plays like Gaston ...No-one scores like Gaston." and you lot can make up the rest. We'll figure something out. Could it do any harm if this got leaked to his agent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Could it do any harm if this got leaked to his agent? Well he probably needs a laugh he must be sweating over his 15% at the mo... probably ordered a new lambo or booked Necker isand after his boy agreed terms with saints... counted his adult fowl ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Missed the last few pages as been otherwise engaged. I presume we still don't know any more and anything suggesting the deal is off is being treated as nonsense and anything that suggests it's still on is being taken as gospel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Missed the last few pages as been otherwise engaged. I presume we still don't know any more and anything suggesting the deal is off is being treated as nonsense and anything that suggests it's still on is being taken as gospel? We don't know anything either way. What we do know is that he wants to join us, he doesn't want to play for Bolonga anymore, he wasn't included in their team tonight and Bolonga promised they would sell him this window. I would imagine Bolonga's manager will be asked about it post-match today, will be interesting to see if anything filters out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 We don't know anything either way. What we do know is that he wants to join us, he doesn't want to play for Bolonga anymore, he wasn't included in their team tonight and Bolonga promised they would sell him this window. I would imagine Bolonga's manager will be asked about it post-match today, will be interesting to see if anything filters out. Game just finished, Chievo won 2-0. Hopefully he says something on the current situation. I imagine we'll see some tweets about it soon if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Gaston Ramirez’s move to Southampton may not be over, as he was dropped from Bologna’s trip to Chievo. “His head isn’t in the game,” said Coach Stefano Pioli. The Uruguayan caused controversy over the last week by agreeing terms with Southampton without the Rossoblu’s knowledge. He was warned the transfer would not be agreed for less than €15m, prompting President Albano Guaraldi to reveal “Ramirez threatened us and said he wouldn’t play for Bologna any more.” “His head isn’t in the game,” explained Coach Pioli. “Ramirez does not have the necessary state of mind to play right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kpturner Posted 26 August, 2012 Share Posted 26 August, 2012 Gaston Ramirez’s move to Southampton may not be over, as he was dropped from Bologna’s trip to Chievo. “His head isn’t in the game,” said Coach Stefano Pioli. The Uruguayan caused controversy over the last week by agreeing terms with Southampton without the Rossoblu’s knowledge. He was warned the transfer would not be agreed for less than €15m, prompting President Albano Guaraldi to reveal “Ramirez threatened us and said he wouldn’t play for Bologna any more.” “His head isn’t in the game,” explained Coach Pioli. “Ramirez does not have the necessary state of mind to play right now.You'd think he would be nailed on to leave Bologna now......but then you would have said that about Tevez at Man City last season also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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