Bucks Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 If - big if - all that's now left to agree is the payment timing/schedule, then this will be a done deal very soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Ramirez is 21 Was 19 when we started negotiations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanthemanfairoak Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Time to offer them Guly as part of the deal and wrap this thing up.i like that idea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Time to offer them Guly as part of the deal and wrap this thing up. Heard its £12m without Guly and £16m with Classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 If I applied that logic I wouldn't have two children. haha and I wouldn't have 4! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Doubt there will be much on this one today, ifs at the stage where one party or the other needs to budge slightly. Hopefully nobody else will register interest. Maybe Gaston will demand to leave? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 haha and I wouldn't have 4! It's not a competition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I just purchased Ramirez on FM12 in two days for 6m quid....think I should get involved and do the haggling. Seriously though, I expect him to be a Saints player by the end of the month, if anyone else wanted him they would of jumped in by now. Which club were you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 haha and I wouldn't have 4! haha and i wouldnt have 6! It's not a competition! Oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Doubt there will be much on this one today, ifs at the stage where one party or the other needs to budge slightly. Hopefully nobody else will register interest. Maybe Gaston will demand to leave? Possibly. But people are forgetting that bologna officials had that match fixing trial to attend yesterday, which may explain why there were so many rehashed reports and nothing really changed. May pick up again today, although I still expect it to drag on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I ain't bothered about one player. Far rather keep King Rickie and his crew happy than upset the apple cart. Strange. You think we shouldnt sign better players than we have in case it upsets players already here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Heard its £12m without Guly and £16m with Classic Maybe if we give them Fourpast as well we can bump up the price to £20m? :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeShmoe Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I predict another 20 pages of tosh and useless foreign twitter reports for today Lets face it, it's off unless Bologna change their demands about how the deal is structured and want to come back. Maybe they will but wont be for a week a least as we've shown our hand. They can now wait to see if anyone else comes in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norm Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I predict another 20 pages of tosh and useless foreign twitter reports for today Lets face it, it's off unless Bologna change their demands about how the deal is structured and want to come back. Maybe they will but wont be for a week a least as we've shown our hand. They can now wait to see if anyone else comes in My only blessing with this saga is that I don't have a Twitter account! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pap Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Still playing Poker then Pap? Actually played last night, but only with the clan. My youngest won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 My only blessing with this saga is that I don't have a Twitter account! It's painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draino76 Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 There is a young chap known as @DeppoInExile that seems to have his finger on the pulse in twitterland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Gastón Ramírez's proposed move to the #EPL is off as #Bologna & Southampton couldn't agree on the payment method. #SaintsFC HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Southampton's Nicola Cortese is unhappy with #Bologna's lack of trust. Gastón Ramírez for the time being will remain in Italy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Just pay the ****ing fee Nicola! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Gastón Ramírez's proposed move to the #EPL is off as #Bologna & Southampton couldn't agree on the payment method. #SaintsFC HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Southampton's Nicola Cortese is unhappy with #Bologna's lack of trust. Gastón Ramírez for the time being will remain in Italy Still over a week to go, don't think we've seen the end of this one just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Gastón Ramírez's proposed move to the #EPL is off as #Bologna & Southampton couldn't agree on the payment method. #SaintsFC HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Southampton's Nicola Cortese is unhappy with #Bologna's lack of trust. Gastón Ramírez for the time being will remain in Italy Stop putting your ego first and get the deals for the players we want done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Brinkmanship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Just pay the ****ing fee Nicola!If you don't have it then you can't pay it!We want a CB, RW as well so he probably hopes nobody else comes in before the deadline so Bologna will buckle first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Brinkmanship. Lets just hope so shall we! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Wouldn't surprise me if we just said, forget it. We then go out and get a very good CB and winger for top dollar to prove we have funds, an then with 2 / 3 days of the window remaining, go back, slap in a lower fee and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Wouldnt it be better just to pay 6 Million for Phillips and wedge up the wages Citeh want to get in Adam Johnson ?? Much cheaper as well . Just saying ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 If you don't have it then you can't pay it!We want a CB, RW as well so he probably hopes nobody else comes in before the deadline so Bologna will buckle first. They aren't asking for it all at once though are they, they want proof we will pay it over time. Everyones already agreed the bloody fee! All they seem to want is a garuntee that they won't get ****ed over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speed demon Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 I think the fee and payment structure can/will be sorted but we are taking an awful risk that other clubs will come in for him. As with Rodriguez and Cork, if no other clubs come in then he is ours. IMHO the whole deal hinges on this more so than the terms of our potential deal. Saying that, 60 pages of 80% rumours and 20% fact is hardly a good platform to base a sensible opinion on. Could still happen in the same way I could get six numbers up tonight. I would imagine it's not as dead in the water as some think though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 And as much as anything, if we only had X amount left to spend on players, a CB would be the priority and we wouldn't even be looking at this fella..... Cash ain't the problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Going to be just like the Büttner case, we'll do all the spade work and all the acceptable details will be thrashed out, then it will stumble on some trifle and a 'big' club will just step in and sign on the dotted line and dish out the necessary bungs which we wouldn't do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Going to be just like the Büttner case, we'll do all the spade work and all the acceptable details will be thrashed out, then it will stumble on some trifle and a 'big' club will just step in and sign on the dotted line and dish out the necessary bungs which we wouldn't do. Especially now that the fee, contract length, and wage has been leaked. Good point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 They aren't asking for it all at once though are they, they want proof we will pay it over time. Everyones already agreed the bloody fee! All they seem to want is a garuntee that they won't get ****ed over again. Would they ask that of Man U, or Chelsea?..............nah! I doubt it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 new day new dawn ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersonic Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Wouldnt it be better just to pay 6 Million for Phillips and wedge up the wages Citeh want to get in Adam Johnson ?? Much cheaper as well . Just saying ! Why would you pay £6m for a right winger and then loan in another? We need defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Would they ask that of Man U, or Chelsea?..............nah! I doubt it as well. That's irrelevant though Ginge, they're dealing with us not them. For all they know we'll get relegated and won't feel like paying the bill cos we'll have a bigger wage bill etc. They won't care about things like parchute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 SimonPeach: Day off? Pah. I have firmed up the latest developments in Gaston Ramirez's proposed move to #SaintsFC. Will reveal all shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 peterwhite_1: Saints deal for Ramirez nearly done Fee agreed but there is still a problem because cash strapped Bologna want all of fee. More.. #saintsfc peterwhite_1: Bologna trying to secure loan and pay back as Saints pay them. NC not happy and set to give ultimatum, agree now or deal off! #saintsfc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Gastón Ramírez's proposed move to the #EPL is off as #Bologna & Southampton couldn't agree on the payment method. #SaintsFC HusseinMarhoon: #football GdS: Southampton's Nicola Cortese is unhappy with #Bologna's lack of trust. Gastón Ramírez for the time being will remain in Italy Stop putting your ego first and get the deals for the players we want done Nothing about ego here, **** me if I'd offered to buy something on the tick and they suddenly demanded guarantees off my future wealth then I'd be pretty peeved too... Wouldnt it be better just to pay 6 Million for Phillips and wedge up the wages Citeh want to get in Adam Johnson ?? Much cheaper as well . Just saying ! No, no, no, no what has he ever done to prove that he is worth more than tuppence ha'penny a week?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 peterwhite_1: Saints deal for Ramirez nearly done Fee agreed but there is still a problem because cash strapped Bologna want all of fee. More.. #saintsfc peterwhite_1: Bologna trying to secure loan and pay back as Saints pay them. NC not happy and set to give ultimatum, agree now or deal off! #saintsfc Ah, so that's more like it. Bologna are cash strapped so want a loan to the value of what we are willing to pay for Ramirez but the banks know they don't have any cash/assets so it's the bank wanting the guarantee that we will pay Bologna the money. Slightly ironic IMHO but Italy are in the ****e finacially.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
COMEONYOUREDS Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Stop putting your ego first and get the deals for the players we want done what are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Nothing about ego here, **** me if I'd offered to buy something on the tick and they suddenly demanded guarantees off my future wealth then I'd be pretty peeved too... No, no, no, no what has he ever done to prove that he is worth more than tuppence ha'penny a week?? But if I was selling an asset for up to 20m I would want some guarantees The whole gfc could have been avoided if people only sold things to people who could afford them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chin Strain Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 They aren't asking for it all at once though are they, they want proof we will pay it over time. Everyones already agreed the bloody fee! All they seem to want is a garuntee that they won't get ****ed over again. It's the Pompey factor coming into play - previously pl clubs were risk free, then Pompey stuffed bari.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Part of me doe believe that FIFA should in effect make it a rule of transfers that full fee paid up front - if you cant afford it or need loans to fund it - you cant have the player end of - woyuld see fees come down to more realistic levels and less clubs over extending themselves or setting up a debt legacy if relegated. Also transfer window shoudl close before season starts etc..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 peterwhite_1: Saints deal for Ramirez nearly done Fee agreed but there is still a problem because cash strapped Bologna want all of fee. More.. #saintsfc peterwhite_1: Bologna trying to secure loan and pay back as Saints pay them. NC not happy and set to give ultimatum, agree now or deal off! #saintsfc Halilulua! There's no way NC would go through all this and not get his man, it's more a case of both parties thinking they're gonna win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 But if I was selling an asset for up to 20m I would want some guarantees The whole gfc could have been avoided if people only sold things to people who could afford them But ŷou are not selling an asset for £20m. You never will or know what any detail of a multi-million football transfer either This is not monopoly. Plenty upon plenty transfers drag out. We are not alone here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 SimonPeach: Day off? Pah. I have firmed up the latest developments in Gaston Ramirez's proposed move to #SaintsFC. Will reveal all shortly. Will be interesting to see what he says - often its just a rehash of stuff we already know...(no offence intended) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 This who affair strikes me as bologna wanting to suck every euro out of us as possible. Fair play to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 FFS. Going to have to adjust my guess once again. He'll sign for us on page 78. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAY-Z Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 what are you talking about? If the tweet I quoted was truthful ( big if I guess) then the amount of fee was settled its just some guarantees are wanted by bologna then that suggests cortese is being stubborn and not wanting to give in We also obviously wanted and basically agreed deals with buttner and that fell through Maybe as suggested in another thread the club should give some basic updates about things in the public domain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint dyer Posted 22 August, 2012 Share Posted 22 August, 2012 Aaahhhh. I'm not gonna get any work done today am I. Lol. In cortese we trust Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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