Lifelongsaint83 Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Cheers for the info! Would be 2 fantastic signings, but what will happen with Puncheon & Guly?..... Nothing, you need strength and depth in the Premier League.
ChudSaint Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I'll be honest, I hadn't heard of this fella before this week... If you are like me this may help as to who he is; http://www.theelastico.com/2012/08/gaston-ramirez-liverpool-transfer-tottenham-manchester-city/ Sounds good but can we really compete with the bigger boys for him??
SaintNeil90 Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I'll be honest, I hadn't heard of this fella before this week... If you are like me this may help as to who he is; http://www.theelastico.com/2012/08/gaston-ramirez-liverpool-transfer-tottenham-manchester-city/ Sounds good but can we really compete with the bigger boys for him?? If they wont offer him the wages he wants and we do, then yes.
wireframebox Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Liverpool have signed a winger, Oussama Assaidi. Could mean they are out of the picture? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19289850
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I have heard that this is serious. We have been in discussions with representatives on Gaston's side, and Bologna's side since Monday - Cortese was apparently in Italy at the start of the week where he met with them, and the parties have now traveled to England, along with Gaston. A fee of around £12m is still being thrashed out, but we seem to be in the driving seat. Might be a load of twaddle, but I thought I'd share. I didn't believe it at first as I thought he was too big a player to get here, but with what I've heard, what the Italian press people have said and a couple of other ''ITK'' people, I'm sure there is active interest to make this a real possibility. It could well be that our driving to get Phillips done signals the end of the Gaston interest, but whatever, our interest seems to be/have been real. Exciting.
SuperSAINT Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Liverpool have signed a winger, Oussama Assaidi. Could mean they are out of the picture? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19289850 Wouldn't have thought so. Spurs, however, are the one's I'd be more worried about. (How cool is it to be competing with Liverpool / Spurs for a player?)
shirleysfc Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I have heard that this is serious. We have been in discussions with representatives on Gaston's side, and Bologna's side since Monday - Cortese was apparently in Italy at the start of the week where he met with them, and the parties have now traveled to England, along with Gaston. A fee of around £12m is still being thrashed out, but we seem to be in the driving seat. Might be a load of twaddle, but I thought I'd share. I didn't believe it at first as I thought he was too big a player to get here, but with what I've heard, what the Italian press people have said and a couple of other ''ITK'' people, I'm sure there is active interest to make this a real possibility. It could well be that our driving to get Phillips done signals the end of the Gaston interest, but whatever, our interest seems to be/have been real. Exciting. Are they similar players then? Excuse my ignorance.
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Are they similar players then? Excuse my ignorance. Pretty much. Both can play on either flank, or through the middle, pacey direct players. Although Gaston is much, much better technically.
saints_is_the_south Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I guess it's possible we could be looking at signing both of them? Still find it hard to believe that we will pull this one off, but if we do then it would be very exciting indeed and also may be the breakthrough that leads to further 'big' signings.
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I guess it's possible we could be looking at signing both of them? Still find it hard to believe that we will pull this one off, but if we do then it would be very exciting indeed and also may be the breakthrough that leads to further 'big' signings. Not sure myself, got a feeling that Phillips is the ''alternative'' option. That's just a hunch though.
MOSaint Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 With Adkins' desire to move Lallana into the middle it has exposed that we are lacking in options down the left. Rodriguez and Lee may have experience playing down the left, but I would guess they are not half the players when asked to play there. Bringing in two wide players would be a good idea IMO although a second winger should not be the highest priority.
Dig Dig Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Not sure myself, got a feeling that Phillips is the ''alternative'' option. That's just a hunch though. With Lallana being moved to a more central position, we're not completely comfortably on either flank in terms of our existing personnel. These two players would walk straight into the team IMO so I can see the logic in signing both.
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/sport/football/footballnews/9878276.Spurs_pursuit_of_Ramirez_over_/?ref=rss - Spurs end pursuit.
Dig Dig Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Cheers for the ITK snippet btw Clarke, exciting stuff
MOSaint Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Seems we might be the only game in town if he wants to move...
saints_is_the_south Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 http://www.thisislocallondon.co.uk/sport/football/footballnews/9878276.Spurs_pursuit_of_Ramirez_over_/?ref=rss - Spurs end pursuit. And with Liverpool signing a winger tonight, I think it could be fair to say that he's ours if we want him and are willing to stump up the required cash.
Raging Bull Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Pretty much. Both can play on either flank, or through the middle, pacey direct players. Although Gaston is much, much better technically. I thought Gaston is a striker not a winger?
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I thought Gaston is a striker not a winger? He can play as one, but he's a winger pretty much. From what i've read about him, he likes to cut in and go through the middle etc.
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 £15m? Us? I seriously can't see it £15/16m euro's apparently, so £11/12m is what Bolgona want in English pounds. Which I don't think is too bad, considering Jarvis is going for £10-11m.
Raging Bull Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 £15/16m euro's apparently, so £11/12m is what Bolgona want in English pounds. Which I don't think is too bad, considering Jarvis is going for £10-11m. If thats the going rate these days for this type of player then thats what we pay. We arent the saints of old.
Mr Saints Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I have heard that this is serious. We have been in discussions with representatives on Gaston's side, and Bologna's side since Monday - Cortese was apparently in Italy at the start of the week where he met with them, and the parties have now traveled to England, along with Gaston. A fee of around £12m is still being thrashed out, but we seem to be in the driving seat. Might be a load of twaddle, but I thought I'd share. I didn't believe it at first as I thought he was too big a player to get here, but with what I've heard, what the Italian press people have said and a couple of other ''ITK'' people, I'm sure there is active interest to make this a real possibility. It could well be that our driving to get Phillips done signals the end of the Gaston interest, but whatever, our interest seems to be/have been real. Exciting. Has your source been correct in the past Clarkey?
Golden Balls Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 £15/16m euro's apparently, so £11/12m is what Bolgona want in English pounds. Which I don't think is too bad, considering Jarvis is going for £10-11m. Still a lot and clearly better value than Jarvis. Just feels strange that we could spend that much.
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Has your source been correct in the past Clarkey? Not really asked him about stuff in the past, he's an old work colleague who ahs moved into the sports media so gets lots of snippets. Thought I'd ask him about this to see what he though and that's what he said. Let's just wait and see I guess, but I have no reason to believe who I spoke to is speaking rubbish. I must admit even I'm still about sketpcial about us actually being able to pull it off in the end, good ambition being in for him...but let's see if we can get it over the line.
benjii Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Maybe we have leaked the Phillips bid to put pressure on Ramirez.
Avenue Saint Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 If thats the going rate these days for this type of player then thats what we pay. We arent the saints of old. That last line speaks volumes.... We are indeed living a new age! Come on you Saints!!
St Chalet Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 It's his wages I'm worried about! It's okay, the club will pay those.
MarkSFC Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 It's his wages I'm worried about! do you pay them?!!!
mulletsaint Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 do you pay them?!!! Indirectly I believe we all do.
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 If people are still wondering who he is/how he plays... As you can see, he pops up on the left, the right, in the middle, cuts inside etc. I think the comparisons to Kaka seem fair, going by his stature and physice. Seems quite tall but insanely technical.
sfc4prem Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 If it's between Phillips and Ramirez, then it's obvious who to chose. If we have the cash to get both, do it.
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 If people are still wondering who he is/how he plays... As you can see, he pops up on the left, the right, in the middle, cuts inside etc. I think the comparisons to Kaka seem fair, going by his stature and physice. Seems quite tall but insanely technical. Interesting, he plays in the left and he plays on the right you say. Would you say you could compare him, perhaps favourably, to another South American player other than Kaka who is currently plying his trade at a club we are trying to emulate?
S-Clarke Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Interesting, he plays in the left and he plays on the right you say. Would you say you could compare him, perhaps favourably, to another South American player currently plying his trade at a club we are trying to emulate? Nah, he makes him look ****e etc.
itchen_dan Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 He plays on the left, He plays on the riiighhhttttt Gaston Ramirez, Makes Messi look s***e! Got a nice ring to it that one!
shurlock Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 If people are still wondering who he is/how he plays... As you can see, he pops up on the left, the right, in the middle, cuts inside etc. I think the comparisons to Kaka seem fair, going by his stature and physice. Seems quite tall but insanely technical. Good replacement for Lallana
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 He plays on the left, He plays on the riiighhhttttt Gaston Ramirez, Makes Messi look s***e! B Got a nice ring to it that one! If only we could sign a full back who can play left and right back then we could sing this song about every wide player in the squad. * misses Dan Harding *
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 If people are still wondering who he is/how he plays... As you can see, he pops up on the left, the right, in the middle, cuts inside etc. I think the comparisons to Kaka seem fair, going by his stature and physice. Seems quite tall but insanely technical. I think it's safe to say. This fellas has got skills
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I think it's safe to say. This fellas has got skills No better than De Ridder.
Thedelldays Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 No better than De Ridder. You disgust me with that comment
The9 Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 Indirectly I believe we all do. No, they're paid by all the overseas tv companies now we're in the Prem.
maysie Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/ramirez-il-southampton-si-avvicina/ 20m!!!!
maysie Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/ramirez-il-southampton-si-avvicina/ 20m!!!! The Southampton and Gaston Ramirez were neighbors. Closer and closer. The British company wants to make a major investment. And with Bologna, there is agreement on a valuation of nearly 20 million, including bonuses. Figures important, that can push the closure. The parties are closer, and you can dramatically close to Ramirez in the coming hours.
thorpie the sinner Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 The Southampton and Gaston Ramirez were neighbors. Closer and closer. The British company wants to make a major investment. And with Bologna, there is agreement on a valuation of nearly 20 million, including bonuses. Figures important, that can push the closure. The parties are closer, and you can dramatically close to Ramirez in the coming hours.
thorpie the sinner Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 The Southampton and Gaston Ramirez were neighbors. Closer and closer. The British company wants to make a major investment. And with Bologna, there is agreement on a valuation of nearly 20 million, including bonuses. Figures important, that can push the closure. The parties are closer, and you can dramatically close to Ramirez in the coming hours. There was just no need for that lol!!!
View From The Top Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 I really can't believe we'd pull this off.
Saint Scott Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 The9 must know what the reliability of these rumours are. Would be an incredible signing!
Turkish Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 The9 must know what the reliability of these rumours are. Would be an incredible signing! Where is ITK agent when you need him?
Patrick Bateman Posted 16 August, 2012 Posted 16 August, 2012 http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/ramirez-il-southampton-si-avvicina/ 20m!!!! Seriously, if this comes off, I will ... I dunno, I will do something "crazy" and post a picture on Facebook.
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