buctootim Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 (edited) Fans of Bologna can smile jumps transfer Ramirez to Southampton. Despite an offer of 15 million euros, the red and blue do not accept the terms of payment of English: is breaking. The midfielder for now does not move. Surprise: The Bologna breaks with Southampton and is held Gaston Ramirez. The midfielder was on the brink of English society, then the reverse of red and blue. What went wrong? The President Albano Guaraldi and the Director General Roberto Zanzi not accept payment imposed by the Premier League club. The offer of the Saints lived up to expectations: 15 million for 70% of the player's card in hand to staff of Ramirez. The red and white but they are not going to pay everything at once. The Bologna does not think so - he writes the 'Gazzetta dello Sport' - and laid down the law: yes purchase in installments, but the bill must be settled within one year. In addition, the first installment must be rather 'substantial'. At that point the Southampton surrendered. And now? To the delight of fans Bologna negotiation seems to be skipped completely. Ramirez will not be happy, convinced as the British proposal for a respectable engagement and eager to fly in the UK. The parties are still very close. And the transfer market you never know. http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2012/08/21/3321121/i-tifosi-del-bologna-possono-sorridere-salta-il-trasferimento-di-?source=breakingnews Edited 21 August, 2012 by buctootim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Fans of Bologna can smile jumps transfer Ramirez to Southampton. Despite an offer of 15 million euros, the red and blue do not accept the terms of payment of English: is breaking. The midfielder for now does not move. http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2012/08/21/3321121/i-tifosi-del-bologna-possono-sorridere-salta-il-trasferimento-di-?source=breakingnews F*** it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgie Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Not over by any means. Just Italian media fun and games... @HusseinMarhoon: @ConnorArmstrong let's wait and see, these reports change every two hours. The printed version of Gazzetta dello Sport says they're close Wouldn't the online story be more up to date though than the printed version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Looks like it's gone the other way then, what a roller coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 What a rollercoaster this is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Fans of Bologna can smile jumps transfer Ramirez to Southampton Despite an offer of 15 million euros, the red and blue do not accept the terms of payment of English: is breaking. The midfielder for now does not move. Surprise: The Bologna breaks with Southampton and is held Gaston Ramirez. The midfielder was on the brink of English society, then the reverse of rossoblù. What went wrong? The President Albano Guaraldi and the Director General Roberto Zanzi not accept payment imposed by the Premier League club. The offer of the Saints lived up to expectations: 15 million for 70% of the player's card in hand to staff of Ramirez. The red and white but they are not going to pay everything at once. The Bologna does not think so - he writes the 'Gazzetta dello Sport' - and laid down the law: yes purchase in installments, but the bill must be settled within one year. In addition, the first installment must be rather 'substantial'. At that point the Southampton surrendered. And now? To the delight of fans Bologna negotiation seems to be skipped completely. Ramirez will not be happy, convinced as the British proposal for a respectable engagement and eager to fly in the UK. The parties are still very close. And the transfer market you never know. Seems we said no to the large upfront fee. Shame but I trust NC and if it isnt right for the club, IMO I thought it would be, then dont risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 B*llocks. Too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Ah, oh well Lawro was right FFS, mayve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Why can we never seem to close a deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 It could still happen, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saintandy666 Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Why can we never seem to close a deal? What about all the players we have bought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Daniele Labanti™@DL_corriere rumors told #bolognafc said 'now or never' to #southampton to reach the €15mln deal for gaston ramirez. so far its 'never' Exactly. Either we pay what they want or they hawk him around elsewhere. They hold all the cards here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 If this turns out to be true, at least we're not spending money that we don't have. Sounds like we wanted a structured deal as we couldn't pay all up top, which is fair enough for a club like us - probably the only way we can actually sign a player as good as him. Bolonga have apparently moved the goal posts slightly though, in terms of the initial payment they want up front - which is something we're not willing to do at the moment. This has all stemmed from Gaston blabbing, and Bolonga have used this to their advantage. And a big advantage too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Why can we never seem to close a deal? Háve you been asleep in the last 3 yers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Saints and transfers - they couldn't organise a p!$$ up in a brewery. Why can't we just get some transfers done and dusted without having a drawn out saga that gets everyone frustrated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Wonder where we go now then? 7 working days of the window left and a real need for pace on the wings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 What about all the players we have bought? Championship and league 1 players.. To take us to the next level we need players above this standard.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 I hope NC still had time to with negotiate other targets as well during this "mess" The transfer window is just open until next friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Bummer. Oh well, clearly Cortese has decided it's not worth paying whatever Bologna are demanding. It's disappointing but I trust his judgement on these matters. Better this than chucking silly money at players Pompey '08 style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Championship and league 1 players.. To take us to the next level we need players above this standard.. So then. Why did you say we can never close a deal when this is the first of the type you describe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Saints and transfers - they couldn't organise a p!$$ up in a brewery. Why can't we just get some transfers done and dusted without having a drawn out saga that gets everyone frustrated? That's not the case though is it? We've signed plenty of good players, a deal like this for a club like us was always a huge effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Let the tantrums and slating of the club begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToreSF Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Strange that it would come down to payments, isn't? Well, on the bright side we avoid the gamble it would be to splash out on one player that would probably become the clubs biggest earner. Hopefully we can sign a centre back and a pacey winger until Wigan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giordano Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Corriere dello sport have reported that Manolo Gabbiadini, aged 21 forward, ex of atalanta but now juve is training with BOLOGNA for the first time today as soon as a few technical details are resolved. http://www.corrieredellosport.it/calcio/calcio_mercato/2012/08/20-260313/Bologna%2C+per+Gabbiadini+primo+allenamento My take on it: if you are selling your 21 year old uruguyan star attacking player then it makes sense to bring in another young attacker- especially if he is a young Italian talent at the same time....that's good for appeasing fans and balancing the squad....it makes Ramirez departure more likely - though not necessarily to Saints ( though im hoping!)...im scanning all Italian news sites and media all day so fingers crossed.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winnersaint Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Lowro spot on it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmonton Saint Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 So then. Why did you say we can never close a deal when this is the first of the type you describe? Because. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Clearly none of you have done business it Italy. It's always like this in my experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBenali Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 What's to stop Ramirez now putting in a transfer request to push the move through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Because. . Well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 It still doesn't seem anyone actually knows what is going on for sure. Plenty of conjecture and conflicting reports. I don't think there is enough info about to say which way this will go just yet... I really need an end to this, I can't keep being so unproductive at work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Well, was too good to be true. Blackpool are refusing to negotiate with Saints, so we're back at step 1. I wonder whether this was to placate the fans that we were looking at decent targets, with the knowledge that it would never be agreed, hence why we were so prepared to smash our wage structure as it was never going to happen. Perhaps similar with the Buttner deal. Just under 2 weeks left for a RW, 2 x CB's and a LB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest flickjax Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Háve you been asleep in the last 3 yers We have shown we can sign lower division players but no star names as yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Is it definitely off? Or just 3rd hand twitter feeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Well, was too good to be true. Blackpool are refusing to negotiate with Saints, so we're back at step 1. I wonder whether this was to placate the fans that we were looking at decent targets, with the knowledge that it would never be agreed, hence why we were so prepared to smash our wage structure as it was never going to happen. Perhaps similar with the Buttner deal. Just under 2 weeks left for a RW, 2 x CB's and a LB. Do you really think that? We tried this because we thought we want to sign him, it wasn't to do with appeasing fans what so ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Fans of Bologna can smile jumps transfer Ramirez to Southampton. Despite an offer of 15 million euros, the red and blue do not accept the terms of payment of English: is breaking. The midfielder for now does not move. Surprise: The Bologna breaks with Southampton and is held Gaston Ramirez. The midfielder was on the brink of English society, then the reverse of red and blue. What went wrong? The President Albano Guaraldi and the Director General Roberto Zanzi not accept payment imposed by the Premier League club. The offer of the Saints lived up to expectations: 15 million for 70% of the player's card in hand to staff of Ramirez. The red and white but they are not going to pay everything at once. The Bologna does not think so - he writes the 'Gazzetta dello Sport' - and laid down the law: yes purchase in installments, but the bill must be settled within one year. In addition, the first installment must be rather 'substantial'. At that point the Southampton surrendered. And now? To the delight of fans Bologna negotiation seems to be skipped completely. Ramirez will not be happy, convinced as the British proposal for a respectable engagement and eager to fly in the UK. The parties are still very close. And the transfer market you never know. http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2012/08/21/3321121/i-tifosi-del-bologna-possono-sorridere-salta-il-trasferimento-di-?source=breakingnews And now, stage left, enter any of the Top Four..... ..... to conclude negotiations Cortese may have Principals, but, unfortunately, Football has very few Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Its not going to happen is it. Sad times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Is it definitely off? Or just 3rd hand twitter feeds? Gazza Della sport seems to think it's off....waiting to see proper official lines first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 We have shown we can sign lower division players but no star names as yet. Clearly not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Clearly none of you have done business it Italy. It's always like this in my experience. Think most if them are the type that when abroad & haggling start at asking for a 50% discount before getting 25% off and thinking they got a bargain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Get the feeling this will drag on until next week. Bologna are playing games IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelvinsRightGlove Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Well, was too good to be true. Blackpool are refusing to negotiate with Saints, so we're back at step 1. I wonder whether this was to placate the fans that we were looking at decent targets, with the knowledge that it would never be agreed, hence why we were so prepared to smash our wage structure as it was never going to happen. Perhaps similar with the Buttner deal. Just under 2 weeks left for a RW, 2 x CB's and a LB. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Just like Gary Hooper etc. Blah blah. Why on earth would the club waste time on trying to 'placate' the fans. I thought Cortese didn't care about the fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 That's not the case though is it? We've signed plenty of good players, a deal like this for a club like us was always a huge effort. We haven't signed anyone for about a month. NA promised 2 signings before the Man City game - still waiting. As we have said all along since Martin joined CP on loan we need 1 / 2 Cbs - still waiting. Wish I'd never heard of Ramirez ..................... Saints always get your hopes up and then let you down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Get the feeling this will drag on until next week. Bologna are playing games IMO Pretty much the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St.Patrik Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 I tried to buy Jersey from Bolognas webshop - could not get Ramirez 10 printed since he was not in the list.......OR am I just reading to much between the lines here? http://bolognapoint.officialline.it/it/macron/gara/bfc-maglia-gara-rossoblu-2012-2013.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JPTCount Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 http://www.goal.com/it/news/7/calciomercato/2012/08/21/3321121/i-tifosi-del-bologna-possono-sorridere-salta-il-trasferimento-di-?source=breakingnews great source, out squad list on thier site has 2 number 8s, neither of which is Davis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 We haven't signed anyone for about a month. NA promised 2 signings before the Man City game - still waiting. As we have said all along since Martin joined CP on loan we need 1 / 2 Cbs - still waiting. Wish I'd never heard of Ramirez ..................... Saints always get your hopes up and then let you down. Calm down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 We have shown we can sign lower division players but no star names as yet. "Star" names want Clubs who are in a Euro Cup Competition .......... Saints are not in one So, back to CCC, League 1 and 2 "hopefuls" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Well, if it is true and we can't sign him Does not bode well for our supposed European aspirations etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Another case of Cortese wanting it both ways it seems. When we didn't want to sell Chamberlain they had to meet our terms, now the boot is on the other foot it seems like he might be prepared to lose the deal because he's not prepared to meet theirs. If this deal doesn't happen only one person is to blame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 21 August, 2012 Share Posted 21 August, 2012 Calm down. Its true though. Although some people will say it doesn't matter, if this doesn't go through then its awfully disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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