Gaston Ramirez - Signs 4 Year Deal

[BrokenGusBus]

Ramirez, goodbye neighbor: distributes the negotiation with the Saints

 

For a Ramirez that it is silent in platform, 'protected' from a bodyguard of exception like Gimenez, a president Guaraldi that it is not seen from the parts of the From The ara. Bologna-Varese hides an entry in the entry. The arm of iron between gambler and president does to speak more of how much happen in field. To speak I am instead the fans, that since the whistle for kick-off harmonize their mantra. "It is not sold Gaston". To the dissent of the curve it is added also a communiqué of the Center Bologna Clubs, that lifted doubtful on the market of the society. Who of doubts it has of it little it is Gianni Morandi, that ensures: "We knew that the boy if wanted to go of it. For my experience, when a gambler does the whims then comes yielded. But if the Southampton wants it, should accept the conditions of Guaraldi". The arm of iron will continue in the next few days, after the fire crossed of Friday, when Ramirez already had spoken from football player of the Saints and Guaraldi had answered him for the rhymes, yesterday the day of the silences was: at least of the official silences. From the Sardinia, where monitor constantly the situation with the eye of the digì Roberto Zanzi, the president Guaraldi does to know that the situation is not changed, that the transfer of Ramirez to the Southampton to these economical conditions is unproposable and that in any case the parts should review itself, conversing on different bases. I sharpen, different bases. I am those that it will be thrown tomorrow, when the English managers, filed the attesissimo I debut in Premier League (the Saints are lacking for seven years from the series TO English) on the field of the City of Lefthanded Roberto, will have the clear mind from competitive every thoughts and will be able to concentrate itself on the operation that has been their calling card to the eyes of the fans. It seems that already in the evening of Friday, while it the arm of iron between Guaraldi raged and the football player, the summits of the Southampton have contacted the managers of Casteldebole, promising new conditions. The Bologna it is not moved from its position and claims 15 million euro 'cleaned' for 70 percent of the label of the No, without that in 15 the commissions for Betancourt enter that is to say and the prize of formation that pushed to the Penarol. The other obstacle to surpass is the formula of the payment: Guaraldi asks 10 millions immediately and the staying 5 within a year. If the Southampton enters in this order of ideas (and in these now all the indications go in that direction) the mother of everything the transfers risks unfortunately of to go in port.

[for_heaven's_Saint]

Seems positive, I think!

[Reynoldson!!]

on the field of the City of Lefthanded Roberto, will have the clear mind from competitive every thoughts and will be able to concentrate itself on the operation that has been their calling card to the eyes of the fans.

 

of course!

[Dark Munster]

Ramirez, goodbye neighbor: distributes the negotiation with the Saints

 

For a Ramirez that it is silent in platform, 'protected' from a bodyguard of exception like Gimenez, a president Guaraldi that it is not seen from the parts of the From The ara. Bologna-Varese hides an entry in the entry. The arm of iron between gambler and president does to speak more of how much happen in field. To speak I am instead the fans, that since the whistle for kick-off harmonize their mantra. "It is not sold Gaston". To the dissent of the curve it is added also a communiqué of the Center Bologna Clubs, that lifted doubtful on the market of the society. Who of doubts it has of it little it is Gianni Morandi, that ensures: "We knew that the boy if wanted to go of it. For my experience, when a gambler does the whims then comes yielded. But if the Southampton wants it, should accept the conditions of Guaraldi". The arm of iron will continue in the next few days, after the fire crossed of Friday, when Ramirez already had spoken from football player of the Saints and Guaraldi had answered him for the rhymes, yesterday the day of the silences was: at least of the official silences. From the Sardinia, where monitor constantly the situation with the eye of the digì Roberto Zanzi, the president Guaraldi does to know that the situation is not changed, that the transfer of Ramirez to the Southampton to these economical conditions is unproposable and that in any case the parts should review itself, conversing on different bases. I sharpen, different bases. I am those that it will be thrown tomorrow, when the English managers, filed the attesissimo I debut in Premier League (the Saints are lacking for seven years from the series TO English) on the field of the City of Lefthanded Roberto, will have the clear mind from competitive every thoughts and will be able to concentrate itself on the operation that has been their calling card to the eyes of the fans. It seems that already in the evening of Friday, while it the arm of iron between Guaraldi raged and the football player, the summits of the Southampton have contacted the managers of Casteldebole, promising new conditions. The Bologna it is not moved from its position and claims 15 million euro 'cleaned' for 70 percent of the label of the No, without that in 15 the commissions for Betancourt enter that is to say and the prize of formation that pushed to the Penarol. The other obstacle to surpass is the formula of the payment: Guaraldi asks 10 millions immediately and the staying 5 within a year. If the Southampton enters in this order of ideas (and in these now all the indications go in that direction) the mother of everything the transfers risks unfortunately of to go in port.

 

Not looking good then.

[MOSaint]

Guaraldi asks 10 millions immediately and the staying 5 within a year. If the Southampton enters in this order of ideas (and in these now all the indications go in that direction)

 

Seems like the Italian press think we are going to give Bologna what they want.

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

Ramirez, goodbye neighbor: distributes the negotiation with the Saints

 

For a Ramirez that it is silent in platform, 'protected' from a bodyguard of exception like Gimenez, a president Guaraldi that it is not seen from the parts of the From The ara. Bologna-Varese hides an entry in the entry. The arm of iron between gambler and president does to speak more of how much happen in field. To speak I am instead the fans, that since the whistle for kick-off harmonize their mantra. "It is not sold Gaston". To the dissent of the curve it is added also a communiqué of the Center Bologna Clubs, that lifted doubtful on the market of the society. Who of doubts it has of it little it is Gianni Morandi, that ensures: "We knew that the boy if wanted to go of it. For my experience, when a gambler does the whims then comes yielded. But if the Southampton wants it, should accept the conditions of Guaraldi". The arm of iron will continue in the next few days, after the fire crossed of Friday, when Ramirez already had spoken from football player of the Saints and Guaraldi had answered him for the rhymes, yesterday the day of the silences was: at least of the official silences. From the Sardinia, where monitor constantly the situation with the eye of the digì Roberto Zanzi, the president Guaraldi does to know that the situation is not changed, that the transfer of Ramirez to the Southampton to these economical conditions is unproposable and that in any case the parts should review itself, conversing on different bases. I sharpen, different bases. I am those that it will be thrown tomorrow, when the English managers, filed the attesissimo I debut in Premier League (the Saints are lacking for seven years from the series TO English) on the field of the City of Lefthanded Roberto, will have the clear mind from competitive every thoughts and will be able to concentrate itself on the operation that has been their calling card to the eyes of the fans. It seems that already in the evening of Friday, while it the arm of iron between Guaraldi raged and the football player, the summits of the Southampton have contacted the managers of Casteldebole, promising new conditions. The Bologna it is not moved from its position and claims 15 million euro 'cleaned' for 70 percent of the label of the No, without that in 15 the commissions for Betancourt enter that is to say and the prize of formation that pushed to the Penarol. The other obstacle to surpass is the formula of the payment: Guaraldi asks 10 millions immediately and the staying 5 within a year. If the Southampton enters in this order of ideas (and in these now all the indications go in that direction) the mother of everything the transfers risks unfortunately of to go in port.

 

Not looking good then.

 

I think that is 'unfortunately' for Bologna - not for Saints! I think the bit that has been translated 'the transfers risks unfortunately of to go in port.' means 'the chances are that the transfer will unfortunately move forwards.'

[Griff]

A translation into English might be nice

[yateleysaint]

Can anyone translate from Italian to English? These Internet translations are nonsensical.

[SaintRichmond]

Can anyone translate from Italian to English? These Internet translations are nonsensical.

 

"Shurrup ya face and eata yur Dolmio"

[Tokyo-Saint]

Left handed Roberto? I knew he'd get involved. Always poking his big beak nose in where it's not wanted. If Tommy two times gets involved, the deal is dead.

[Wade Garrett]

I reckon this one will be wrapped up pretty quickly.

[Crab Lungs]

Left handed Roberto? I knew he'd get involved. Always poking his big beak nose in where it's not wanted. If Tommy two times gets involved, the deal is dead.

 

[Glasgow_Saint]

I reckon this one will be wrapped up pretty quickly.

 

Today?

[Glasgow_Saint]

Left handed Roberto? I knew he'd get involved. Always poking his big beak nose in where it's not wanted. If Tommy two times gets involved, the deal is dead.

 

:lol:

[BrokenGusBus]

"Guaraldi and Zanzi in England to divest Gaston Ramirez to Southampton. Bologna: Longo, Floccari or Vukusic. THE Hajduk Split calls on 4 million for the Croatian striker, followed also from Pescara that spring Mayuka (Young Boys) and Lima of the Braga."

[Bucks Saint]

"Guaraldi and Zanzi in England to divest Gaston Ramirez to Southampton. Bologna: Longo, Floccari or Vukusic. THE Hajduk Split calls on 4 million for the Croatian striker, followed also from Pescara that spring Mayuka (Young Boys) and Lima of the Braga."

 

The chicken is in the pot. Out.

[Saint Charlie]

Tweets from articles in the Gazetta dello Sport

 

Hussein Marhoon ‏@HusseinMarhoon

#football GdS: There will be a meeting today in England between Southampton & #Bologna representatives for Gastón Ramírez. #SaintsFC

 

Hussein Marhoon ‏@HusseinMarhoon

#football GdS: Gastón Ramírez has already agreed terms with Southampton (€10m over 4 years). #SaintsFC

 

Hussein Marhoon ‏@HusseinMarhoon

clubs officials and player's agent will meet in England today according to Italian media. The player already agreed terms

 

Hussein Marhoon ‏@HusseinMarhoon as I said earlier, it's all up to Southampton. Italian media insists that the player has already agreed terms with the club

 

Hussein Marhoon ‏@HusseinMarhoon Bologna wants €15m cash immediately or a down-payment of €7-8m now. Southampton wants to pay the fee on 3 years (€12m)

[brightspark]

By the sounds of things the ball is well and truly in Cortese's side of the court. It's now up to him to decide if we as a club are willing to spend so much money on one player. I'll be gutted if Ramirez doesn't end up coming, but I won't be blaming Cortese if this doesn't go through. Bologna must have a sticking point and at the end of the day so must we.

[goneawol]

One could say, for Gaston Ramirez to Southampton today or never. If we are not an ultimatum, we miss very little. The President Guaraldi is backtracking, said that the Bologna can not afford to wait too long, in the weeks leading debut in the league. An absolute truth, or a way to flush out definitively Southampton? One thing is certain: today is D-day, the truth about the final, we are in or out. The Bologna claims 15 million and wants to nail the first installment to be fair, maybe more than 6 million originally agreed. A few hours and everything will be clear.

 

http://alfredopedulla.globalist.it/articoli/4790-esclusiva-ramirez-southampton-giorno-verit

[Wade Garrett]

Today?

 

I reckon so, but I'm not in the know.

[Crab Lungs]

We will pay 8m now methinks

[dubai_phil]

We will pay 8m now methinks

 

This is an ïnteresting" moment. As followers of PTS will know, many of us have an issue about sustainability in our finances.

 

Our PL INCOME means we can afford Ramirez and others out of cash FLOW. But the thing is that cash FLOW has not happened YET. So spending 15mil over 3 years - sensible (even though some posters saying it is a lot of money) - we have the 5mil in the bank from ST sales.

 

To now have to UP that initial payment - well do we actually have that cash (from ST's & OXO) Ïn The Bank? Will The Don actually have to go and borrow a couple of mil cash?

 

No doubt we CAN afford him. No doubt hcdajfu.

 

BUT do we have the PHYSICAL cash in hand, or does The Don take out a loan/Ask the Family....

 

Moral High Ground watch day today.

 

IF we have the cash in the bank, what does THAT do to offers for a CB/Phillips/AN Other?

[Minty]

No doubt we CAN afford him. No doubt hcdajfu.

 

BUT do we have the PHYSICAL cash in hand, or does The Don take out a loan/Ask the Family....

 

My gut feeling is that a specific figure has been handed over to invest in the squad, and Cortese already has those funds, on the basis that this investment will serve to increase the value of the club as a whole.

[Deanovski]

If we end up not signing him i think i will be quite disappointed

[Lifelongsaint83]

Alan Nixon

@reluctantnicko Ok. I think this is actually going to happen. Word is u expect agreement and Ramirez on his way very shortly. Wow.

 

 

This guy is usually very good with Saints news.

[Webby]

At the moment, with the fee being talked about being so much higher than our previous record, I'm slightly concerned. I'm sure NC knows what the club can afford but perhaps 2 or 3 players for that same money might be better spent?

 

But hey, who knows, maybe we're gonna spend 12m on another 2 players anyway!

[Saint Garrett]

At the moment, with the fee being talked about being so much higher than our previous record, I'm slightly concerned. I'm sure NC knows what the club can afford but perhaps 2 or 3 players for that same money might be better spent?

 

But hey, who knows, maybe we're gonna spend 12m on another 2 players anyway!

 

But that is what we used to do. Buy 3 or 4 players who arent good enough on the cheap, fill the squad with average players and then not had the quality to compete. Plus transfer fees seem to have gone through the roof recently anyway. something like £4m gets you a godo player in the NPC or one who is on the decline. £12m gets you one of the biggest young talents in europe with a potential huge sell on fee. I couldn't be more excited about this lad, will be a huge statement of intent and turn a few heads.

[Asaint4ever]

Just wish this would hurry up and get sorted! Coys

[Lighthouse]

But that is what we used to do. Buy 3 or 4 players who arent good enough on the cheap, fill the squad with average players and then not had the quality to compete. Plus transfer fees seem to have gone through the roof recently anyway. something like £4m gets you a godo player in the NPC or one who is on the decline. £12m gets you one of the biggest young talents in europe with a potential huge sell on fee. I couldn't be more excited about this lad, will be a huge statement of intent and turn a few heads.

 

I agree. I'd much rather we just signed Ram and a CB than 5 Mikel Nilssons.

[Colinjb]

But that is what we used to do. Buy 3 or 4 players who arent good enough on the cheap, fill the squad with average players and then not had the quality to compete. Plus transfer fees seem to have gone through the roof recently anyway. something like £4m gets you a godo player in the NPC or one who is on the decline. £12m gets you one of the biggest young talents in europe with a potential huge sell on fee. I couldn't be more excited about this lad, will be a huge statement of intent and turn a few heads.

 

Sounds a little like quality over quantity.....

 

Although as we already have a full first team squad, development squad and thriving academy. So no, we have quantity too.

[Saint Charlie]

I agree. I'd much rather we just signed Ram and a CB than 5 Mikel Nilssons.

 

Pretty much sums it up. Have to say that its great we have an actual policy when it comes to transfers. When you see Sunderland signing the likes of Saha for a final pay day and QPR anyone with a pulse ie Johnson, Nelson etc it is refreshing that we are doing things differently.

 

I hope West Ham are pleased with James Collins - Im glad they have got him.

[dubai_phil]

I agree. I'd much rather we just signed Ram and a CB than 5 Mikel Nilssons.

 

Again one BIG point EVERYONE keeps missing.

 

Italy is SCREWED. There is this minor insignificant issue about The Euro. Taxes are flying up every month, business activity is at an almost stand still. Italy's economy is hurting like hell and that means the FANS aren't spending the money on football, they are trying to eat.

 

Picking up some bargains at 12mil in Italy is the equivalent of paying 30 or 40 mil over here or in Spain. Bologna are DESPERATE for the cash - we are the Bird in Hand - you can bet they won't spend ALL of it on replacements

[Saint Garrett]

Sure we're looking at potential CB's from Italy as well

[St.Patrik]

Spot on there DP - just look at Inter Milan - selling everything they can in almost a Pompey firesale. And players that leaves all say that Italian football are going down the drain since the money is gone.

 

Again one BIG point EVERYONE keeps missing.

 

Italy is SCREWED. There is this minor insignificant issue about The Euro. Taxes are flying up every month, business activity is at an almost stand still. Italy's economy is hurting like hell and that means the FANS aren't spending the money on football, they are trying to eat.

 

Picking up some bargains at 12mil in Italy is the equivalent of paying 30 or 40 mil over here or in Spain. Bologna are DESPERATE for the cash - we are the Bird in Hand - you can bet they won't spend ALL of it on replacements

[The9]

My gut feeling is that a specific figure has been handed over to invest in the squad, and Cortese already has those funds, on the basis that this investment will serve to increase the value of the club as a whole.

 

That's my assumption as well.

 

My other assumption is that its for £2.5bn.

[ART]

 

Alan Nixon

This guy is usually very good with Saints news.

 

7 years ago Nixon was our worse enemy and hated by the majority of forum supporters. What has happened to change all this? Did he have issues with Lowe, or, as we knew in those days, he stirred up stuff against Saints, based on his solid support for certain London clubs.

[Lighthouse]

Again one BIG point EVERYONE keeps missing.

 

Italy is SCREWED. There is this minor insignificant issue about The Euro. Taxes are flying up every month, business activity is at an almost stand still. Italy's economy is hurting like hell and that means the FANS aren't spending the money on football, they are trying to eat.

 

Picking up some bargains at 12mil in Italy is the equivalent of paying 30 or 40 mil over here or in Spain. Bologna are DESPERATE for the cash - we are the Bird in Hand - you can bet they won't spend ALL of it on replacements

 

What?

 

I was talking about SAINTS buying policy, not the Italian ecconomy. You are right though.

[The9]

Again one BIG point EVERYONE keeps missing.

 

Italy is SCREWED. There is this minor insignificant issue about The Euro. Taxes are flying up every month, business activity is at an almost stand still. Italy's economy is hurting like hell and that means the FANS aren't spending the money on football, they are trying to eat.

 

Picking up some bargains at 12mil in Italy is the equivalent of paying 30 or 40 mil over here or in Spain. Bologna are DESPERATE for the cash - we are the Bird in Hand - you can bet they won't spend ALL of it on replacements

 

They're not so desperate that their Chairman hasn't tried to renegotiate upwards from an agreed 15m Euros...

[Ken Tone]

Sounds a little like quality over quantity.....

 

Although as we already have a full first team squad, development squad and thriving academy. So no, we have quantity too.

 

Exactly. So I'm in the "get one or two top notch signings in" camp

[SaintBobby]

Can I just strike a note of concern here?

 

Seems that this transfer looks like it will happen based on tweets/Italian articles above. But there are two possible sticking points.

 

1. The % owed to Penarol and how this is handled, but more worryingly:

2. Whether we pay in installments or cash up front.

 

If we don't have the ability to pay upfront, I'm a tad concerned about our finances.

[beavis17]

A bargain to be defined. Gaston Ramirez has already spoken of Southampton as a player, but the agreement does not exist yet. The four parties involved - ie Bologna, Southampton, Penarol and agents - do not have the final agreement, but work is in these hours. The companies have begun to confront the price to pay for Ramirez, also continue to update you shortly. Ramirez will be the hours of ...

[jasoneuelllfanclub]

seems like we are making inroads.

 

http://www.gianlucadimarzio.com/calciomercato/situazione-ramirez-le-ultimissime/

 

i can see this getting over the line tonight or tomorrow.

[Stu Man Do]

Can I just strike a note of concern here?

 

Seems that this transfer looks like it will happen based on tweets/Italian articles above. But there are two possible sticking points.

 

1. The % owed to Penarol and how this is handled, but more worryingly:

2. Whether we pay in installments or cash up front.

 

If we don't have the ability to pay upfront, I'm a tad concerned about our finances.[/QUOTE]

 

I think the majority of transfers even by the big clubs are based on instalments nowadays. Even Real paid for Ronaldo in instalments. I think the cost of the % owned by Penarol is more worrying though. Theres nothing to say that they have to sell their 30% at the same ratio Bologna are selling their 70% so will be interesting to see how much we eventually end up paying for him.

[Bearsy]

Can I just strike a note of concern here?

 

Seems that this transfer looks like it will happen based on tweets/Italian articles above. But there are two possible sticking points.

 

1. The % owed to Penarol and how this is handled, but more worryingly:

2. Whether we pay in installments or cash up front.

 

If we don't have the ability to pay upfront, I'm a tad concerned about our finances.

 

Dude I'd be a bit surprised if we had £15m or whatever sat in the old current account. I wouldn't worry bout it tho we've got big Prem payoffs on the way!

[Saint Garrett]

Can I just strike a note of concern here?

 

Seems that this transfer looks like it will happen based on tweets/Italian articles above. But there are two possible sticking points.

 

1. The % owed to Penarol and how this is handled, but more worryingly:

2. Whether we pay in installments or cash up front.

 

If we don't have the ability to pay upfront, I'm a tad concerned about our finances.

 

Depends whether we rather would pay it in installments or can we only afford to pay it in installments. I would have thought we have access to funds but the chairman wants to run the club as a business to break even so wants to allocate the losses against the income we'd receive.

[Lighthouse]

Can I just strike a note of concern here?

 

Seems that this transfer looks like it will happen based on tweets/Italian articles above. But there are two possible sticking points.

 

1. The % owed to Penarol and how this is handled, but more worryingly:

2. Whether we pay in installments or cash up front.

 

If we don't have the ability to pay upfront, I'm a tad concerned about our finances.

 

We've already shelled out around £10m on players so far. Ram would take it to about £25m, Phillips £31m, two CBs maybe £40m, a LB £45m?

 

That is a lot of money to be paying out before the season has even begun. It's like buying your first house, you don't walk into an estate agents with £200,000 in a briefcase. We are probably trying to spread some of the payments out so they coincide with TV payments and gate revenue.

[Webby]

 

I think the majority of transfers even by the big clubs are based on instalments nowadays. Even Real paid for Ronaldo in instalments. I think the cost of the % owned by Penarol is more worrying though. Theres nothing to say that they have to sell their 30% at the same ratio Bologna are selling their 70% so will be interesting to see how much we eventually end up paying for him.

I really don't see how it can be a different ratio cos then it's not 30% is it? That would be farcical. I guess Bologna set e fee as they have the majority share but probably have to clear that with Penarol just to see if they're happy with that.

 

I really don't get this dual ownership though. As I said before, do Penarol pay 30% of his wages? What do they get for owning 30% of him? If they get nothing until his sale, then why not just make it a sell on %?

[S-Clarke]

Can I just strike a note of concern here?

 

Seems that this transfer looks like it will happen based on tweets/Italian articles above. But there are two possible sticking points.

 

1. The % owed to Penarol and how this is handled, but more worryingly:

2. Whether we pay in installments or cash up front.

 

If we don't have the ability to pay upfront, I'm a tad concerned about our finances.

 

If there was a problem with our finances we wouldn't even bother going in for someome like Gaston.

 

I can assure you that almost every single transfer is now done in installments. Chelsea will not pay Lens 33m for Hazard up front, there will be a spread of payments - similar with Van Persie.

 

That's how it's done because it's sensible financial management, rather than splash all this years budget on 1 player - you push it out over 2 transfer windows. (or even more)

[Crab Lungs]

The silence today is positive....

[saintdaz]

has he signed yet?