itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 (edited) Just been on SSN transfer centre. In the process of uploading a video. Will edit when done. EDIT: Here we go. http://telly.com/CPCRK Edited 17 August, 2012 by itchen_dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 This. Looking forward to people saying "but he scored against Reading" He'll be better in the premier league than in the championship. He'll have more time on the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Not sure why people are worried the picture of him at saint Mary's sorta says it all!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Not sure why people are worried the picture of him at saint Mary's sorta says it all!! What picture? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Cant look as I have Iphone, what is it ? His own website which says he's also talking to Liverpool whilst in England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mulletsaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Good old Nigel.. definitely something in it even on the interview you could tell he was beaming ear to ear when talking about Ramirez. Maybe he knows something else we don't, like we're not just signing the Uruguayan Kaka but also the real McCoy as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Maybe he knows something else we don't, like we're not just signing the Uruguayan Kaka but also the real McCoy as well. I believe he called Alexander Buttner the Dutch Nigel Winterburn off the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowds Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 (edited) What picture? http://t.co/hlMmtyX6 Edited 17 August, 2012 by Jimmy_D Fixing Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussexsaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Just been on SSN transfer centre. In the process of uploading a video. Will edit when done. EDIT: Here we go. http://telly.com/CPCRKDoesnt work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SfcPhil Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 That's lallana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 http://t.co/hlMmtyX6 I hope you're joking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BILLY Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 http://t.co/hlMmtyX6 Looks like Adam L to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen_dan Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Doesnt work.. ? Should do. I've just checked it and works fine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Armstrong Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Bologna's President gave the following interview: http://www.football-italia.net/23521/bologna-cling-ramirez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Hope this deal but gets sorted out. Imagine how embarassing it would be if it doesn't happen...and Saints havent given any confirmation yet. Having seen the above I think this one might have a bit more time to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Hope this deal but gets sorted out. Imagine how embarassing it would be if it doesn't happen...and Saints havent given any confirmation yet. Having seen the above I think this one might have a bit more time to run. I know, some idiots even made a song thread about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I know, some idiots even made a song thread about him. Dune has a tendency to get a bit ahead of himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Dune has a tendency to get a bit ahead of himself... no i dont. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints foreva Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Bologna's President gave the following interview: http://www.football-italia.net/23521/bologna-cling-ramirez? This will drag on. The people getting excited are going to look stupid if it doesn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo-Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Dune has a tendency to get a bit ahead of himself... no i dont. With you one stop arguing amongst yourselves! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 This will drag on. The people getting excited are going to look stupid if it doesn't happen. why would they look stupid? Whats wrong with getting excited about potentially signing one of the best young players in Europe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Bologna's President gave the following interview: http://www.football-italia.net/23521/bologna-cling-ramirez? If they want €20mil then we should just pay it! The guy is an incredible talent. We'd be paying £15.7mil, not a huge amount more really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
This Charming Man Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Bologna's President gave the following interview: http://www.football-italia.net/23521/bologna-cling-ramirez? Why can't we just buy players from clubs like Arsenal? They sell their star players without even giving it a second thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Might drag on a few more days as the clubs negotiate a deal, but surely Ramirez has no future at Bologna after his comments this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 If they want €20mil then we should just pay it! The guy is an incredible talent. We'd be paying £15.7mil, not a huge amount more really. A difference of 3.75 million pounds (About 30%) of the transfer and personal terms have been essentially agreed. We'll make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Simon Peach@SimonPeach Adkins was coy on Phillips as well due to Holloway comments: "I probably think it's best that I don't make any further comments on that" Expand Collapse Reply RetweetedRetweet Delete FavoritedFavorite 1mSimon Peach@SimonPeach Adkins was coy on Ramirez's #SaintsFC move but something clearly in the pipeline: "If true, then it shows the ambition of the football club" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I'm excited, but still pessimistic until it's on the OS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 (edited) Quite a few people posting this link on twitter. They seem to think Penarol will keep the 30% stake in Ramirez with us owning 70%. Is that even allowed in England? http://www.campeonatoitaliano.com/blog/gaston-ramires-deixara-de-usar-a-camisa-10-do-bologna-e-ira-jogar-no-futebol-ingles/ Translation: Uruguayan midfielder Gaston Ramirez, only 21, impressed the British doing a great Olympic tournament playing as owner of U-23 Uruguay and despite the early elimination of the Olympic heaven, which fell further in the first phase, Ramirez managed to stand out, with good performances in Uruguay with 10 competition, with particular reference to its excellent start in the first game of the tournament against the United Arab Emirates, where he created the main plays of his selection and also scored a great goal in the collection of falta.Com good performances for his club playing in the a and would be mainly by Uruguay, Ramirez, who is constantly called into the senior national team, called the attention of some major European football clubs such as Inter Milan, Liverpool and Tottenham, but it was Southampton recently turned on the English Premier League, the club will pay contratou.O around 15 million Euros for 70% of the pass half of the young, the other 30% belong to Peñarol-URU, the club that most seduced revelou.O Ramirez to go to Southampton was good salary offered by the club and the player said about it: "it's the kind of proposal that can not refuse, I was offered four-year contract for an amount very important to me for my whole family ". The player signed a contract for four seasons and will receive 2 million euros, tax free, for years and has receive 1 million on signing the contrato.Gaston Ramirez commented on his new club: "They believe in me and in my potential, and above all they intended to grow. The Southampton is a team that just went up to the Premier League, but are looking at the top and will be a great team in the coming years, they hired me with the intention of building this new team and this is a very exciting challenge. " Edited 17 August, 2012 by Saint Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 No, that rule was sorted with the whole Tevez situation. You can't 'part own' a player, I think that just says that we'll pay 15m euros but 70% of that will go to Bologna and 30% to Penarol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Le Shearer Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Norwegian media (usually reliable) reports the deal as done and dusted: http://www.tv2.no/sport/fotball/england/premierleague/southampton-snyter-storklubbene-for-ramirez-3853619.html#.UC4hSio-Kbo.facebook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Norwegian media (usually reliable) reports the deal as done and dusted: http://www.tv2.no/sport/fotball/england/premierleague/southampton-snyter-storklubbene-for-ramirez-3853619.html#.UC4hSio-Kbo.facebook Translation Newly promoted Southampton seems to have secured one of summer's most talked about players. Bologna's Gaston Ramirez, according to Sky Sports on the next to be ready for sørkystklubben. 21-year-old earlier this summer been linked with a move to big clubs like Liverpool, Tottenham and Inter Milan, but now it thus appears that uruguayaneren end up at St. Mary's Stadium. Chairman Nicola Cortese said to have come to terms with the Italians for a transfer fee of just over 110 million, which is almost a doubling of the previous transfer record. The sound of 60 million, and is derived from the acquisition of Jay Rodriguez of Burnley earlier this summer. Im not quite sure where it got the valuations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Quite a few people posting this link on twitter. They seem to think Penarol will keep the 30% stake in Ramirez with us owning 70%. Is that even allowed in England? http://www.campeonatoitaliano.com/blog/gaston-ramires-deixara-de-usar-a-camisa-10-do-bologna-e-ira-jogar-no-futebol-ingles/ Translation: Just a 30% sell on clause methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Translation Im not quite sure where it got the valuations? Thats in kroner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Translation Im not quite sure where it got the valuations? That's probably in Krone. I notice it says 'according to SSN' in that article, so probably nothing new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaintPhil Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Daily Echo says Uruguayan Gaston Ramirez flying to England to sign for Southampton Football Club after deal agreed with Bologna Or just daily Echo crap again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sotonjoe Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 About Adkins. alex_crook: @joecallen had a glint in his eye suggesting it was imminent Are you my Twitter stalker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Quite a few people posting this link on twitter. They seem to think Penarol will keep the 30% stake in Ramirez with us owning 70%. Is that even allowed in England? http://www.campeonatoitaliano.com/blog/gaston-ramires-deixara-de-usar-a-camisa-10-do-bologna-e-ira-jogar-no-futebol-ingles/ Translation: Think thats just a poor translation and means that we are paying Bolgna 70% and Penarol 30% of the fee to own him overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 It's quite bloody obvious. Penarol have a 30% sell on clause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 19 page already indicates that this would be the marquee signing we all greedily crave. Pray it goes ahead. (And Phillips, Buttner, Kana-Biyik and all the others too!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 It's quite bloody obvious. Penarol have a 30% sell on clause. No, they quite literally own 30% of the player. But yes, it seems it will work like a sell on fee in this instance. If Bologna are demanding a sell on fee for him though, will that mean that Penarol are entitled to a 30% share of that when the time comes for Ramirez to leave? Or have we had to negotiate with Penarol for their 30% share of the player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 It's quite bloody obvious. Penarol have a 30% sell on clause. To buy Ramirez we pay 70% to Bologna and 30% of the fee to Penarol. Confirmed by various Italian journalists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I think Gaston has jumped the gun slightly with his comments, but I do believe we've been given permission to speak to him and finalise it whilst we conclude the deal Bolonga's side. They're right to be a bit miffed if he's talking like he's ours when they haven't got the fee they want. (let's remember that if it's a 11.8m fee, they won't get all of that as a percent goes to his first club - so Bologna want 11.8 themselves i'm sure) We wouldn't get this far to baulk at a couple of million though. Can't see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 It's quite bloody obvious. Penarol have a 30% sell on clause. Why the reports earlier then that Penarol were not happy with the fee but Bolonga were. If it was just a sell on clause they would not have a say and would get what their given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 I think Gaston has jumped the gun slightly with his comments, but I do believe we've been given permission to speak to him and finalise it whilst we conclude the deal Bolonga's side. They're right to be a bit miffed if he's talking like he's ours when they haven't got the fee they want. (let's remember that if it's a 11.8m fee, they won't get all of that as a percent goes to his first club - so Bologna want 11.8 themselves i'm sure) We wouldn't get this far to baulk at a couple of million though. Can't see that. This (hopefully) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The9 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 He'll be better in the premier league than in the championship. He'll have more time on the ball. Funnily enough I was watching the Dream.On. programme with Wembley FC on ESPN and their manager said something very similar about not having as much time on the ball as the pros as they get closed down more quickly on the dodgier pitches. They're in the Combined Counties Premier, so they're no mugs. Maybe Portsmouth can look forward to playing them next season (if they decide to pretend to be Londoners rather than joining the Wessex League). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Webby Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Well we've had reports that a fee has been agreed, then that Bologna aren't happy with the way that fee is to be paid, and finally, that they aren't happy with the fee. So which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Same road as Buttner deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorkie Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 Tits up appears to be the word on this deal! Still it kept me interested for the day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 17 August, 2012 Share Posted 17 August, 2012 http://oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=Potters&action=display&thread=197035 A quote from this has made my day and should cheer some of the negative amongst us up - "Jesus christ. Why have a pop at Stoke because of this? There are any number of variables that will determine whether or not he's a success in the premiership yet. He could well turn out to be a class player but he could well turn out to be an expensive flop. He hasn't even kicked a ball yet. 'makes our efforts at transfers in our promotion season (which we are only just recovering from) look very small time' Is that really what you think? We got hold of Beattie, Etherington, Sorensen, Abdoulaye Faye all of which were/are quality players that have all contributed not only to the success of keeping us up that year but the subsequent successes we've had since. I hardly think you can call them small time. Fair enough Tonge, Soares etc. didn't live up to expectations but quite how you can judge our transfer activity as small time because a handful of players didnt work out for us seems largely unfair. And are we only just recovering? We've made giant strides at improving the infrastructure of the club, largely because we've been able to maintain our status in the league and in my opinion, no season was more integral to this than the first season. And another point while I'm at it, we were underdogs. We were extreme underdogs. Southampton on the other hand are coming back into the league with a bigger fanbase than us, a bigger stadium, a bigger club reputation, a respected academy, a better promoted squad than we had. It will be easier for them to get players in than it was for us and it beggars belief if you can't see that. And really who cares? Good luck to the guy and good luck to Southampton. I hope he does live up to his price tag, as long as its not against us. I swear sometimes people are just looking for an excuse to moan about something." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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